Global Shipping Program - Buyer's Alert!

Recently I bought an desktop (priced at $720). The seller used eBay's global shipping program GSP. But eBay's GSP policy is that anything under $750 is unregistered mail and no signature required!

 

BUT eBay's GSP charged me $35 on shipping AND $45 on import! And I never received my item!

 

When I contacted seller, he said he could do nothing for me, and I should contact eBay; when I contacted eBay, eBay said they could do nothing, I should contact my local police!

 

This is SO irresponsible and I strongly suggest buyers never use eBay's GSP. I 100% sure that there is a nasty business between eBay and sellers who use GSP!

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If you didn't,t receive or you should be able to file an item not received case. Did the delivery confirmation number show that the item was not received?
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Because they are not registered and non signature required, I guess the local delivery company left the package by my door, and someone took it.

 

eBay's tracking system shows item was "delivered", but they didn't know which carrier and no proof of delivery.

 

And I filed a case against this issue, but eBay decided no refund or whatsoever.

 

I strongly suggest NEVER use eBay's Global Shipping Program, if the seller insists on GSP, find another one!! This GSP is a total SCAM. 

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The Global Shipping Program usually uses either Canada Post or CanPar for deliveries.

Drop in to your local Postal Outlet and ask if your package is there. Murphy's Law is on your side. Also the CanPar office, but go to Canada Post first.

 

If eBay shows 'delivered' then there was some tracking.

EBay's policy on tracking and Confirmation of Delivery are meant to protect the SELLER, not the buyer, against false claims of non-delivery.

And I filed a case against this issue, but eBay decided no refund or whatsoever.

Phone.

Have a good book and a beverage handy. Pee before you call. You may be spending some time there.

Ask for a Global Shipping Program specialist.

 

However.

If there is proof of delivery, and the value of the item is under $750, then you will not win.

 

In that case, go to the Post Office (not the outlet) and talk to the postmaster. You want to file a notice about theft from the mails. You may also want to file  a theft report with the police .

This may or may not do you any financial good, but these authorities may be able to use your information to put a stop to such thefts. It's part of being a citizen.

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$720 USD is $864 CDN and should have been Signature Confirmed.

Part of your discussion with the GSP specialist.

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To be fair, if the seller had sent the item directly to you rather than through the gsp and delivery confirmation said that the item was delivered, ebay would likely rule in the sellers favour in an item not received case. Otherwise, every buyer could say that they didn't receive an item even if del confirmation said they did.

 

If I were you I would continue to fight this and keep talking to people at ebay to find a solution. There's a couple of things that I might do in your situation...

 

You should file a police report. Tell them that you realize they will not investigate it but if a package was stolen from your porch, that is a crime and you need a case number to show to ebay. According to other similar cases that I've read about in the U.S., this makes the theft more legitimate in ebay's eyes.

 

The same $750 rule applies for sellers...a signature isn't required unless the total is $750 U.S. or more. However, I was always told that the total includes the amount spent on shipping so if you paid $720 plus $35 than I would think that a signature would be required in order for them to prove delivery.  A buyer is covered by the same money back guarantee when they use the gsp as when the seller sends the item directly.  According to the MBG -

"We require proof of signature to confirm delivery for items with a total cost of $750 or more."

That doesn't really say that shipping is including so perhaps that has changed. To find out for sure, you could phone ebay and without getting into  your particular situation, ask if a signature is required for an item that is less than $750 but over that amount once shipping has been added in.

 

Also, it is ridiculous that they say they can't find out who the carrier is. There used to be gsp specialists at ebay but they may not have them anymore. If they do, they should be able to find the answer.

 

Or try contacting Pitney Bowes. The following contact info for PB was posted on this forum a while ago.  I've never used it myself so can't guarantee that it is accurate or that it is still available.

 

"For Pitney Bowes customer service regarding GSP issues, you can email PBISGSPCS@pb.com to reach the GSP Customer Service group. Or you can call 1-866-235-9627, and press 1 to reach the same GSP Customer Service group."

 

If you can find out the carrier and a non gsp tracking number that the carrier used, then that might help to find out if the package was delivered to the right address.

 

All of this requires some legwork. I'm sorry that I don't have an easy answer.

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"To be fair, if the seller had sent the item directly to you rather than through the gsp and delivery confirmation said that the item was delivered, ebay would likely rule in the sellers favour in an item not received case. Otherwise, every buyer could say that they didn't receive an item even if del confirmation said they did."

 

The thing is, I think many buyers would select a method of shipping that provides signature required for most items over a certain value - say $200 or $300+, even though it costs more. At that point it is an investment.

 

GSP does not give this option.

 

Which is why I might use GSP on bulky items that cost between $50-$150, but not likely on any items valued more than $150.

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Thank you for your advice! Yes, I did continue fighting on this case. And eBay finally refund me (but not the shipping cost and import charge). So I still lost almost $100.

 

So this was what I did:

 

1) Email, phone eBay customer center, and tried my best to explain what happened;

 

2) Corporate with eBay, and file an IC3 complaint (eBay will send you a link);

 

3) eBay will open a case for refund on closed dispute.

 

I hope this help people with the same issue. Thanks again for everyone's help. Let me know if any of you have questions! 🙂

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"but not the shipping cost and import charge"

 

You have to fight that charge with PayPal, not eBay.

 

Good Luck.

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