The impact of the Liberals energy policy and wind turbines

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Ontario Wind Turbines

Ontario has the most expensive electricity in North America
leading to unaffordable hydro bills, manufacturing leaving the province, high unemployment and a stagnant economy.
This is a serious problem and is the result of Wind Turbines; an industry that Ontario doesn’t need and never did.

“Ontario is probably the worst electricity market in the world,”
Pierre-Olivier Pineau, Associate Professor and Electricity Market Expert, University of Montreal HEC Business School.

 

Ontario’s Energy Policy will affect every person in Ontario.

Eleven years ago, Ontario had a vibrant energy sector that offered inexpensive electricity. It has changed dramatically since then.
The following is a summary of the new energy policy that is being implemented by the Ontario Government.
Supporting information is under Sources. Pictures are of wind projects in Ontario.

Over the next 20 years, your household will pay an additional $40,000 for electricity.

The money is to pay for the cost of wind energy that will add $110,000,000,000.00 to our electrical bills.

Ontario is building 6736 Wind Turbines.

About 1800 turbines are built with about 4900 more to go. There are plans to accept more wind contracts in 2015.
Ontario, however, already has clean and excess electricity from water, nuclear and gas and doesn’t need energy from wind.

Ontario has the highest electricity rates in North America.

It was the Liberal’s decision for Ontario to pay more for wind energy than any other province/state in N. America.
Ontario is giving multi-billion-dollar subsidies to the multi-billion-dollar wind energy business.
Less than 3% of our electricity comes from wind, yet 50% of our bill pays for the Liberal wind energy costs.
Ontario hydro consumers pay for a hydro debt that was paid off in 2010.
The 10% clean energy rebate on your hydro bill is charged to Ontario tax payers.
Ontario is the only province/state that charges HST, delivery, and regulatory fees on electricity.
Your hydro rates will continue to increase every May and October to pay for wind energy.

In 2004, you paid 4.7 cents per kilowatt hour.
Today you pay 15-23 cents per kilowatt hour. Check your hydro bill; divide the total (including HST) by your usage.

Compare our rates to: 4.8 cents in Montreal, 5.45 cents in Chicago and 8.12 cents in Detroit.

Monthly Usage Cost Comparison

1699 kw hours will cost in Ontario, $210; Montreal, $82; Chicago, $93; Detroit, $138.
288 kw hours will cost in Ontario, $ 79; Montreal, $14; Chicago, $16; Detroit, $24.
(The less hydro you use, the higher the percentage of delivery & regulatory charges; resulting in a higher rate per kw hour.)

Manufacturing is leaving Ontario and new manufacturing is not coming.

Key reasons include expensive electricity and limited opportunities.
To name a few: Caterpiller (2 plants), United Steel. Heinz, Bicks, International Trucking,
General Motors, Navistar, Kellogg’s, John Deer, Lance Bakeries, Kraft Foods, GE Electromotive Plant.

Large manufacturers are seeing their hydro costs increasing by $3-10 million a year.

NOVA Chemicals says the cost of power is critical in its decision to locate a multi-billion-dollar polyethylene expansion in Sarnia Ontario.
Their alternative is the U.S. Gulf Coast where hydro rates are a fraction our rates.

Ontario’s economy is shrinking and electricity use has decreased by 6% since 2006.
Almost 1 million Ontarian’s are out of work.
For 8 years, Ontario has had one of the highest unemployment rates in Canada.
Ontario is now the have-not province of Canada with a debt of $227 billion.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/ontario-drives-manufacturers-away-with-ove...

Gone are the days of beautiful Ontario….

Wind projects can be built anywhere in Ontario.
Wind projects are approved by the Ontario Government without consent from the affected municipalities or people.
Many Ontario laws or regulations do not apply to Wind Companies: municipal bylaws, building permits, road weight restrictions, drainage, protection of wetlands; migratory paths; death or harm to endangered species.
Wind companies simply obtain exemptions from any law that impedes their projects.

Wind turbines towering as high as 60 storeys, are intrusive and will affect over 4800 sq. miles in Ontario.
Every Great Lakes coastline will have 1,000-2,000 wind turbines.
Tourism is diminishing, rural property values are decreasing; livestock, endangered species, wildlife and fowl are being negatively affected.
Ontario Wind Turbines are built closer to humans than any place in the world; people are suffering from wind turbine syndrome which can be life threatening.
People don’t want to live near these turbines and are abandoning their homes without recourse.
Areas in rural Ontario are becoming ghost towns.

In the Niagara area, turbines that were built too close to residents, are violating the law and need to be dismantled.
As of March, 2014, the Liberals have been attempting to give the wind company a pass over the residents and the law.
http://www.niagarathisweek.com/news-story/4390620-enforce-the-law-hudak-to-energy-minister

The Liberal & NDP support our wind energy policy even though it is convoluted and wastes our money.

    • Nuclear, hydro, & gas is cheap, reliable, clean energy but, wind has priority.
    • At 3-4 times the price, wind energy is too expensive, unreliable, available only about 20-30% of the time (sometimes as low as 10%).
    • Wind needs backup energy. For every kilowatt of wind power, we need one kilowatt of backup energy fuel, that could otherwise be our initial source.
    • Ontario has so much electricity that we pay the USA & Quebec to take it off our hands or, when permitting, charge them 2.5 cents per kw hour. In 2013 alone, the loss was $1 billion which will cost your household an additional $250.
    • Quebec turns around and sells our hydro at cheap rates (5 cents per kw hour) to the New England states and makes a substantial profit.
    • Ontario is spending $11 billion building transmission lines to feed energy from wind turbines. That’s an additional $2750 cost to your household.
    • Beginning in 2007, Ontario installed smart meters at cost of $700 per household. As of February, 2104, there are discussions to replace these meters at another $700 per household.
    • When there is too much electricity, Ontario pays $1 million dollars a day to take a nuclear plant off-line ($66 million in 2013); diverts the water at Niagara Falls and pays wind companies to shut down their turbines.
    • Ontario pays gas plants to run continually in backup mode for wind energy.
    • According to the Ontario Society of Professional Engineers,
      Carbon Dioxide Emissions will increase by 48% in 2030,
      because gas plants starting up and shutting down on a continuous basis
      expels significantly more emissions into the atmosphere than if they ran continually.
    • The first weekend in August, Ontario lost $10 million because of the highly windy days resulting in unexpected energy to the grid. The same situation occurred on November 9 & 10, where Ontario lost another $20 million. These losses are charged back to Ontario hydro consumers.
    • Effective September 11, 2013, Ontario agreed to pay Wind Energy companies $200,000 per MW NOT to supply their wind energy to the grid, because it’s “cheaper” than paying the USA & Quebec to use it. Since then, the Liberals continue to approve new wind farm projects on a weekly basis.
    • The plan to build two new nuclear reactors at Darlington was abruptly cancelled by the Liberals in October 2013 at a cost of $180 million. This will be charged back to the Ontario hydro consumer.
    • The $1.1 billion cancellation of 2 gas plants by the Liberals will cost your household an additional $250.
    • Because wind is so unreliable and unpredictable, the staff at the IESO, must continually manipulate the grid on an hourly basis, by shutting down, or starting up, the nuclear, gas or hydro plants or sending the excess off to the states.
    • These constant changes to the grid are prone to error and Ontario’s grid wasn’t built to handle such.
    • Experts say that we better be prepared for frequent and long blackouts or worse, as in complete failure of our energy grid resulting in a devastating blackout.

 

Truth is stranger than fiction

Ontario pays Quebec to take our excess electricity.
Quebec sells it to bordering States at dirt cheap rates.
These states attract manufacturing because of cheap electricity.
Therefore:
Manufacturers can move to the border States to get cheap electricity that is sourced from Ontario.

New York State clearly sees opportunity.
In March 2014 promotional information was sent to Ontario’s Manufacturing sector citing Ontario’s high energy costs as a main reason to relocate to New York State.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/soaring-energy-prices-making-ontario-look-dim-for-manuf...

Does this make sense to you??

The Liberals & NDP’s give way to the resident wind energy lobbyists at Queens Park regardless of the impact on Ontario.
This has been going on for years. In 2004, the Liberals awarded Mike Crawley, the (then) Ontario President for the Liberals, a wind energy contract that guarantees his company $66,000 a day for a total of $1/2 Billion dollars.

The Wind Industry held a fundraising event for Kathleen Wynne in April 2013.
Another lobbyist fundraiser was held in March 2014 that raised $5 million.

Those who promote Wind Energy, such as the Liberals, NDP, David Suzuki, Greenpeace, Pembina Institute, Environmental Defence, Friends of the Wind and CANWEA are supported by Wind Energy companies and benefit financially from these companies.

Ten minutes of research on the Internet will tell you that wind turbines are nothing more than big money for billion dollar companies, big money for environmentalists and big money for politicians with many disadvantages to the Ontario people.

Question: Can these Wind Projects be Stopped?
The answer is: Yes

The Liberals have the discretionary power to cancel or modify these contracts but their actions make it clear they don’t want to.

An Ontario court ruling in the decision of Trillium vs. Ontario, 2013, clearly states that:
“Governments are free to alter policies in the public interest.”
“Companies in the renewable power business participate in government subsidy programs ‘at their own risk’.”

The Liberals refuse to acknowledge this ruling.
The NDP’s are supporting the Liberals.
The PC’s want them stopped.

As of March 2014, Ontario has 55 incomplete wind power projects (consisting of approximately 4900 turbines) that could be stopped legally.
If the Liberals allow them to be completed (which they intend to do) the cost to Ontario will be:

An additional $22 billion ($5500 cost to your household);
More intrusion on our countryside and our people.

 

 

Wolfe Island (Kingston) BEFORE

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                                       Wolfe Island (Kingston) AFTER

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Still way better than coal and I applaud the boldness of both party. Is it perfect?. Of course not. I dont see the conservatives doing any serious movement toward renewable energy. This was a pretty good leap.

 

If its intrusion that is the problem. Everybody have to sacrifice, Just like people in big cities have to swallow all the pollution to keep this country running/competing.

 

it will happen sooner or later, anyways. We are becoming more populated and consuming more. People's land and territory will be taken over by other people. Thats just the way it is.

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Fixmusic2013 - it seems that you think the addition of wind turbines somehow led to the elimination of coal plants.  This is simply untrue, as even a cursory look at the history of Ontario's generation would indicate.  The government and the wind industry would of course like you to believe this, but please take a few minutes to discover that all the new gas plants (i.e. Mississauga and Oakville) among other factors explains Ontario's ability to shut down coal.

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"- it seems that you think the addition of wind turbines somehow led to the elimination of coal plants. "

 

Not at all, sir. I never mentioned anything like that in my post.

 

"The government and the wind industry would of course like you to believe "


Fact is fact.  Every energy taken from those turbines are energy taken away from coals. I think thats a pretty good deal. I actually believe we should do more but its better than we ever got from any conservative.

 

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Sure we would all like the cleanist energy possible but at what cost? And it's costing Ontarians dearly in terms of manufacturing loss and one's own personal everyday power consumption. We have been all duked into using less and less through updating lighting, appliances etc all good options to lower the cost. But what happened? Check your power bill, up up up and it's going much higher according to predictions. Oh well take solice in the fact Ontario is providing excess cut throat  cheap power to the US  and QC. 

 

Updated: Mon Jan. 24 2011 7:07:04 PM - Doubt anythings changed.

 

Ontario Hydro customers paid the U.S and Quebec $1.5 million to take electricity out of the Ontario system on January 1, thanks to a strange twist of market factors.

It was a warm winter's day so demand for electricity in Ontario was very low, leading to an excess of power because wind and nuclear energy generation cannot be turned off.

"When you've got that surplus, it actually becomes a hazard to the system. You have to dispose of that energy so we were going around to our neighbours, begging them to take our disposal problem," energy expert Tom Adams told CTV Toronto.

"We've got this excess and that proves to be expensive."

Wind farm operators are paid for windy days whether their energy is used or not, which is why Ontario Hydro customers still pick up the bill.

Occurrences such as the one on New Year's Day are likely to cost customers millions over the next few years.

A new report is predicting Ontario will commonly have a surplus of energy in the future.

"Ontario is doing our neighbours a huge favour at the expense of consumers here," Adams said.

 

 http://h1ripoff.blogspot.ca/2011/01/ontario-paid-to-give-power-away-to.html

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Well said !! People need to be truthfully informed about these industrial wind turbines ! Most of the IWT going up in Ontario are from off-shore or American companies. Think about it !!!  Its all about the big business not about green energy. These companies do not care about the devastation left behind by these IWTs!! But the people do. I wonder if fixmusic2013 has any of these in his backyard? Have you seen any of the dead eagles, bats and migrating birds lying under these IWTs? How about the farmers who have had to walk away from their operations since the IWTs came because their cows no longer produce milk? Or the infertility of the beef cattle? Or the neighbours who cannot sleep due to the noise? Or the property values in the neighbourhoods of these IWTs decrease so much people can't move away if they wanted to? Oh yes, there is more to it than just the visual disgrace of our beautiful province.

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Windmills and solar can be turned off at the flick of a switch if it is not needed.

 

But thanks to McGuinty/Wynne Liberals the windmills and solar owners have a contract which pays them an obscene amount for electricity even if it cannot be used.

 

No intelligent person would ever  give  electricity producers a contract which pays $0.60 to $0.80  per KWH for something they sell on the  wholesale market for around  3 cents/KWH.   That is, nobody except Liberals.

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