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@i.am.vivian wrote:
@godzilla_goose wrote:So as to do YOU and other readers of THIS Canadian Board a courtesy AND to provide you insight as to exactly WHY I started this thread on THIS Board, I will provide you the URL to a thread on eBay.com's Discussion board
From reading the replies in THIS thread, I am inclined to believe that the mere act of the buyer clicking the "payment sent" icon in the buyer's My eBay page does NOT, in actual fact, "scam" the eBay seller.
Oh, OK, thank you for posting that. Now I see, it was a tiff you got into with another board member on the dotCOM boards. I had worried that there was some 'special notice' sent out, some 'beware' announcement that I'd missed or something.
I do hope you're not endeavoring to pit one side against the other, the dotCA and the dotCOM, to-and-fro, just for the sake of wanting to win an argument. In my opinion your scuffle over there was a waste of typing time but if you had a bit of fun with it then fine.
Even where the buyer marks the item as 'payment sent' without having paid, if the seller goes to print a label in PayPal they will be told there is no payment yet and not to ship.
It was a small thing, maybe the other member is mistaken, or not knowing any better feared the 'scam' might work. Not worth arguing about. I suppose some people don't like buyers having the option to mark that because it looks like a paid item when everything else indicates a false alarm. Maybe they see it as a tease.
I see your point that if you have already paid, like cash on pickup, you would want to stop the payment reminders. Nobody likes that sort of thing. If you say that clicking the 'payment sent' is enough to stop those, well that answers a question I had wondered about. I didn't know if it did that or not. 🙂
i.am.vivian,
Let me there be NO mistake about this: I have absolutely NO intention of pitting the dotCA board against the dotCOM boards and I KNOW when I am RIGHT and the other party is a ***BLEEP***. I have been reading the dotCOM boards since 2000 and have honed my "crap" detector over that time. Having spent two YEARS reading the eBay Trust & Safety Board from 2000-2002, I learned a LOT of ways that disreputable eBay sellers would do harm to rip off eBay buyers and during the "old" eBay, there was very little that buyers could do to protect themselves especially when back in the "old" eBay, many transactions were settled with paper forms of payments such as cheques and money orders (and when PayPal was NOT widely used by buyers OR accepted by sellers).
Because non-retractable forms of payment were used long ago, it was extremely easy for eBay buyers to be ripped off on eBay especially considering that, on eBay, almost without exception, buyers are buying sight-unseen, meaning that the bidders/buyers are relying on the trustworthiness of the seller's description and/or images to (accurately) portray the item up for bids/sale and that the bidders/buyers can NOT see the actual item with their OWN eyes and check over the item with their OWN hands BEFORE bidding/buying like you could sight-seen in a brick-and-mortar store AND that during the "old" eBay, there were NO such mechanisms to file INRs or SNADs either. Truly, in the "old" eBay, eBay buyers took ALL the risk.
So while spending two YEARS "studying" in the eBay Trust & Safety Board what could and does go wrong for eBay buyers, I started posting on eBay's Bidding Discussion Board around late 2001 using a different eBay ID than this one and I did have a lot of fun going to town tearing a strip up one side and going down the other side of disputable eBay sellers to the chagrin of eBay pinks (Board moderators) before eBay LiveWorld and before Lithium moderators. eBay did NOT like me exposing SHILLERS at all.
If you have not already checked my user ID, you will see that I am also registered in BC, Canada (and I am a proud Canadian) and I have NO hesitation whatsoever to go down to the dotCOM Boards and hammer any STUPID and/or IGNORANT ***BLEEP*** down there. From experience, I find the Canadian Boards to be more civil and having spent so much time down there, I have taken a "hardened tone" in my posts especially when I am hammering on an eBay user who posts some serious STUPID ***BLEEP***.
Before posting down there the other day, I had not checked on eBay's web pages with respect to [buyers] manually clicking on the payment sent icon from the buyer's end to stop those annoying eBay payment reminders from being sent. When I responded to cumos55 in message #12 in THIS thread, I referenced the eBay web page that states "if you've paid by another payment method, you'll need to manually mark your payment as sent."
From actual experience, after I paid the seller via their own merchant account and ASSUMING that the seller did NOT mark the payment as being received on THEIR end of the transaction (because I can NOT see what the eBay seller is actually doing on THEIR end), BLEEPING eBay kept sending me those annoying payment reminders to pay the eBay seller. So, without reading any web pages about checking on payments, I suppose by ME clicking on the payment icon on MY end of the transaction, this stopped eBay from sending me those harassing e-mails to pay the eBay seller when I DARN well KNOW I did pay the seller (especially when I am on the PHONE with the seller giving my credit card number). So, I am happy to have answered this question for you about clicking "payment sent" will, in actual fact (and NOT alterative fact) 
, stop those payment reminders. 
With that type of transaction the item is never registered as paid on eBay. Unless the item is paid through the eBay system neither the seller nor the buyer can mark the item as paid.
Well that isn't true, sellers can mark an item as Payment Received paid anytime they want, that's what I do when I have a local pick-up paid in cash. Buyers are limited to marking it as Payment Sent.
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