September 24th, 2014 Weekly Board Hour

Hello Canadian eBayers,

 

As usual, we will join you for our weekly chat at 1 PM Eastern. Please go ahead and start posting your questions at your convenience.

 

See you in the afternoon!

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Hi Raphael and all,

  I have been having an issue this past week in regards to some of my items being removed by mistake. For some reason, eBay has been removing complete video games that I have listed with their strategy guides, claiming that I have been listing them in the wrong category. I have been listing them in the video games section, which is the status quo on the site, but when they are removed I am being told to list them in the strategy guide section. The strategy guide category is where sellers list strategy guides without games. Since the complete game is the main item and the guide is a bonus item, all sellers list games with guides in the video game section. This is the way it has always been. Please take a look for yourselves.

 

I had three listings removed on Friday. I called eBay CS on Saturday and they agreed that the listings were removed by mistake. I received an email from eBay apologizing for the error that instructed me that it was okay to relist the items. I did so Saturday night. When I woke up Sunday morning, the items had been removed again for the same reason I note above (despite me getting the go ahead from eBay in writing to relist them). I called CS on Monday and they told me that it was a technical issue and that the "bots" are getting confused.

 

I made a post about this on the Discussion Forums earlier this week and somebody suggested that I contact you guys about this and I hope you can help me out. Here is the link: 

 

http://community.ebay.ca/t5/Seller-Central/Ebay-removed-my-items-reinstated-them-and-then-removed-th...

 

I received another email from eBay this morning saying that the listings had been removed by mistake and that I could now relist them. I am worried that if I do relist them that they will get pulled again. Every time that my listings get removed by mistake I receive a policy violation and the people at CS do not know how to remove the policy violations, despite eBay's error. I am worried that if I relist the items in the correct category that my account will be in big trouble. Already, my items have gone from the top to the bottom of best match. I have not made any sales on eBay since the listings were removed the first time and there is definitely a correlation.

 

My questions for you folks are as follows: Is there a way for you to check to see if the "bots" are malfunctioning or confused and fix them? Secondly, am I safe to relist my items or will they be removed again (even though I have now received two messages from eBay saying it is okay to relist them?). Third, how can I get the policy violations removed from my account now that eBay has admitted that the listings were removed (twice) by mistake.

 

This incident is really hurting my ability to sell on the site and is compounded by the three major eBay outages that have happened this month. I just want to get back to selling as usual. Any help you folks can offer will be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks, brian

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September 24th, 2014 Weekly Board Hour

Good afternoon Raphael.

 

A month ago, following many inquiries over several months. you advised on the Selling-Central board:

 

"We have discovered an issue impacting Legacy Members (Canadian users who registered on eBay.com before there was an eBay.ca) which prevented the email to be sent to them for this promo. I'm working with the Promo team to find a solution.

 

Please keep in mind that there are other things that may prevent a promo email to reach you or may delay its delivery, for example many members have opted out of promo emails from eBay entirely (this setting can be changed in your Communications Preferences). Also, free email providers such as Gmail or Hotmail sometimes experience delays in receiving emails sent by an automated process like the ones we employ for these promo emails.

 

I would like to thank you all or reporting these issues and for your patience and understanding as we work to resolve them."

 

Post #24: http://community.ebay.ca/t5/Seller-Central/Have-YOU-Been-Notified-of-the-New-Free-Listing-Promotion/...

 

OK, a month later the same problem seems to exist.  Not only for "legacy members" but for Canadian sellers registered on eBay.ca.

 

http://community.ebay.ca/t5/Seller-Central/Looks-like-there-s-a-new-promo-eh/m-p/268623#U268623

 

First question today: What has been done to identify the problem and correct it?

 

Second question today: When will it be fixed?

 

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@pierrelebel wrote:

Good afternoon Raphael.

 

A month ago, following many inquiries over several months. you advised on the Selling-Central board:

 

"We have discovered an issue impacting Legacy Members (Canadian users who registered on eBay.com before there was an eBay.ca) which prevented the email to be sent to them for this promo. I'm working with the Promo team to find a solution.

 

Please keep in mind that there are other things that may prevent a promo email to reach you or may delay its delivery, for example many members have opted out of promo emails from eBay entirely (this setting can be changed in your Communications Preferences). Also, free email providers such as Gmail or Hotmail sometimes experience delays in receiving emails sent by an automated process like the ones we employ for these promo emails.

 

I would like to thank you all or reporting these issues and for your patience and understanding as we work to resolve them."

 

Post #24: http://community.ebay.ca/t5/Seller-Central/Have-YOU-Been-Notified-of-the-New-Free-Listing-Promotion/...

 

OK, a month later the same problem seems to exist.  Not only for "legacy members" but for Canadian sellers registered on eBay.ca.

 

http://community.ebay.ca/t5/Seller-Central/Looks-like-there-s-a-new-promo-eh/m-p/268623#U268623

 

First question today: What has been done to identify the problem and correct it?

 

Second question today: When will it be fixed?

 


Hi @pierrelebel,

 

I don't know the answer to your specific problem about being a legacy member but I can respond to other people not getting an email notification.

 

The email has not gone out and will go out around noon ET today. There were some changes that needed to be made to the email at the last minute which is why it is late going out to members. 

 

Thanks,

Ryanne

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@ecgt wrote:

Hi Raphael and all,

  I have been having an issue this past week in regards to some of my items being removed by mistake. For some reason, eBay has been removing complete video games that I have listed with their strategy guides, claiming that I have been listing them in the wrong category. I have been listing them in the video games section, which is the status quo on the site, but when they are removed I am being told to list them in the strategy guide section. The strategy guide category is where sellers list strategy guides without games. Since the complete game is the main item and the guide is a bonus item, all sellers list games with guides in the video game section. This is the way it has always been. Please take a look for yourselves.

 

I had three listings removed on Friday. I called eBay CS on Saturday and they agreed that the listings were removed by mistake. I received an email from eBay apologizing for the error that instructed me that it was okay to relist the items. I did so Saturday night. When I woke up Sunday morning, the items had been removed again for the same reason I note above (despite me getting the go ahead from eBay in writing to relist them). I called CS on Monday and they told me that it was a technical issue and that the "bots" are getting confused.

 

I made a post about this on the Discussion Forums earlier this week and somebody suggested that I contact you guys about this and I hope you can help me out. Here is the link: 

 

http://community.ebay.ca/t5/Seller-Central/Ebay-removed-my-items-reinstated-them-and-then-removed-th...

 

I received another email from eBay this morning saying that the listings had been removed by mistake and that I could now relist them. I am worried that if I do relist them that they will get pulled again. Every time that my listings get removed by mistake I receive a policy violation and the people at CS do not know how to remove the policy violations, despite eBay's error. I am worried that if I relist the items in the correct category that my account will be in big trouble. Already, my items have gone from the top to the bottom of best match. I have not made any sales on eBay since the listings were removed the first time and there is definitely a correlation.

 

My questions for you folks are as follows: Is there a way for you to check to see if the "bots" are malfunctioning or confused and fix them? Secondly, am I safe to relist my items or will they be removed again (even though I have now received two messages from eBay saying it is okay to relist them?). Third, how can I get the policy violations removed from my account now that eBay has admitted that the listings were removed (twice) by mistake.

 

This incident is really hurting my ability to sell on the site and is compounded by the three major eBay outages that have happened this month. I just want to get back to selling as usual. Any help you folks can offer will be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks, brian


Hello Brian,

 

It was actually me who flagged the issue with some of my trusted contacts in the CS org, and they all agreed with my assessment that this was, in fact, repeated human error. The person who made the error will receive appropriate coaching to ensure this mistake isn't repeated on you or any other member. If it was to happen again however, please send me an email asap so measures can be taken.

 

You can safely relist your items now and the violations have been removed from your account. Apologies for the inconvenience this has caused you.

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September 24th, 2014 Weekly Board Hour

Hi Raphael and all, Has there been any Progress on getting the Shopping Cart working on ca.. I am getting tired of Customers asking about it and giving Refunds on shipping to others. Thanks
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September 24th, 2014 Weekly Board Hour

Hi Raphael,

  Thank you for taking the time to handle this and for identifying the problem when I first posted about it earlier in the week. I will relist the items later today and will contact you if the same thing happens again.

 

Have a wonderful afternoon,

brian

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September 24th, 2014 Weekly Board Hour

Hi Raphael --  I too am very concerned about the shopping cart disconnect between .com and .ca.  You mentioned a few months ago that eBay was working on getting this issue resolved so that the checkout process between the two sites would be completely compatible.  Any ETA?

 

I used to get quite a few multiple purchases, and in fact have a free shipping promo based on multiple purchases. My U.S. buyers are still telling me they can't buy more than one item at a time, and those are the experienced buyers who know that they have to back out and make subsequent purchases separately.  I have to wonder how many buyers I've lost completely who tried and gave up.  I consider this a very serious handicap for Canadian sellers, especially those of us whose major customer base is in the U.S.

 

Please tell us this is going to be fixed

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@lukey9 wrote:
Hi Raphael and all, Has there been any Progress on getting the Shopping Cart working on ca.. I am getting tired of Customers asking about it and giving Refunds on shipping to others. Thanks

Hello lukey9,

 

I'd like to start by confirming that we are talking about the same problem, which is to say that US buyers are unable to add eBay.ca items to their shopping cart on eBay.com, thus rendering the practice of combined shipping impossible for BIN items since these now require immediate payment. The shopping cart on the eBay.ca site, as far as I know, works without issues.

 

At the time I write this, we still don't have a date for a fix on the eBay.com shopping cart for this particular issue. This is an unfortunate situation that was created by the implementation of the immediate payment requirement on BIN items coupled with the way the US shopping cart was originally built (it doesn't support any listings that weren't created on eBay.com). We are working with the appropriate team to get the necessary upgrade work prioritized and we will announce as soon as we get  confirmation on an ETA.

 

In the meantime, if US buyers get in touch with you to ask how they can benefit from your combined shipping offer despite this issue with the US shopping cart, you can suggest they go to eBay.ca and use the shopping cart there, this one should work. If anyone has a use case where a US buyer was unable to do this, please let me know.

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"on eBay.com, thus rendering the practice of combined shipping impossible for BIN items since these now require immediate payment."

 

Hi Raphael

 

This raises the question: why?

 

eBay offers sellers of fixed price listings the option of asking for "immediate payment" at time of listing if they want. 

 

Why does eBay.com in fact ignore the wish of sellers who do NOT want to ask for immediate payment but prefer to let buyers pay at a time convenient to them or take more time to browse their other listings.

 

Why?

 

Who benefits of a program forcing immediate payment in instances when neither seller or buyer want it?

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@pierrelebel wrote:

"on eBay.com, thus rendering the practice of combined shipping impossible for BIN items since these now require immediate payment."

 

Hi Raphael

 

This raises the question: why?

 

eBay offers sellers of fixed price listings the option of asking for "immediate payment" at time of listing if they want. 

 

Why does eBay.com in fact ignore the wish of sellers who do NOT want to ask for immediate payment but prefer to let buyers pay at a time convenient to them or take more time to browse their other listings.

 

Why?

 

Who benefits of a program forcing immediate payment in instances when neither seller or buyer want it?


Hello Pierre,

 

Why was required immediate payment on BIN items introduced? Simply put, it's better for business. This is a measured & observed fact. It dramatically reduced the amount of unpaid items and the amount of time lost by sellers relisting those unpaid items.

 

You have to keep in mind that eBay.com is designed and run first and foremost for the US business, and that for the US business, the US shopping cart works fine, even with the immediate pay rule on BIN items. Only items not listed on eBay.com are impacted by this issue, and items listed on eBay.ca, sadly for all of us Canadian sellers, represent a tiny fraction of the US core business.

 

What we have here is an unfortunate situation created by circumstances from good ideas implemented on eBay.com for the US business. It's far from ideal for Canadian sellers, but we are working actively to fix that.

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Hello lukey9,

 

I'd like to start by confirming that we are talking about the same problem, which is to say that US buyers are unable to add eBay.ca items to their shopping cart on eBay.com, thus rendering the practice of combined shipping impossible for BIN items since these now require immediate payment. The shopping cart on the eBay.ca site, as far as I know, works without issues.

 


I know you weren't responding to me directly, but yes, this is the problem I am seeing with my US customers.  The other (less important, but nonetheless annoying) issue is that when I do see a US buyer struggling, and purchasing a few items one after the other, I always refund the excess shipping they've paid.  However, I don't get my FVFs back on those refunds, which can amount to several dollars. 

 

The "Immediate Payment Required" obligation is, as Pierre points out, unnecessary, and should be removed until eBay gets the .com/.ca compatibility problem addressed.  Why they ever instituted immediate payment to begin with, until the carts were fully functional between the two sites, is beyond me!

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"sadly for all of us Canadian sellers, represent a tiny fraction of the US core business."

 

That may be true but that same amount also represents a huge fraction of Canadian sellers business.

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@rose-dee wrote:


The "Immediate Payment Required" obligation is, as Pierre points out, unnecessary, and should be removed until eBay gets the .com/.ca compatibility problem addressed.  Why they ever instituted immediate payment to begin with, until the carts were fully functional between the two sites, is beyond me!

I see you've answered this question above, as sad and unfortunate as that answer is for us Cdn sellers.  I just think this has gone on far too long.

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@pierrelebel wrote:

"sadly for all of us Canadian sellers, represent a tiny fraction of the US core business."

 

That may be true but that same amount also represents a huge fraction of Canadian sellers business.


You know, Raphael, Pierre's comment above inspires me to ask a question that I've not seen anyone ask before, but that always runs through my mind when we see the "we are a small part of the US business" explanation:  Why does eBay have a .ca site at all? 

 

It seems to me it would be far more functional to have us all listing on .com (as I believe was the case at one point long ago), but offer different shipping options to Canadians.  Many Cdn sellers already list on .com anyway.  I know, a big question, but any thoughts?

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Hi Raphael , Most buyers do not ask before bidding and when they bid and have to pay for each one at a time in most cases they don't bid no more making lost sales for me and E-Bay and I end up giving them a Refund on teir shipping and costing me and others lost money through PP.It would be real nice to have this problem solved before the Christmas season
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"Why does eBay have a .ca site at all? "

 

A former eBay.ca country manager answered that question a long time ago.

 

A .ca site allows sellers to list and get paid in local currency (Canadian dollars).  It also allows GST/HST registered sellers to collect taxes and allow sellers to use domestic shipping options (Canada Post).

 

Other than that, .ca is an American site which explains why GST/HST is not charged on fees.  All other Canadian based auctioneers must collect GST/HST on their fees and many have complained that the situation is grossly unfair.

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@pierrelebel wrote:

"Why does eBay have a .ca site at all? "

 A .ca site allows sellers to list and get paid in local currency (Canadian dollars).  It also allows GST/HST registered sellers to collect taxes and allow sellers to use domestic shipping options (Canada Post).

 

Other than that, .ca is an American site which explains why GST/HST is not charged on fees.  All other Canadian based auctioneers must collect GST/HST on their fees and many have complained that the situation is grossly unfair.


Aside from the GST/HST issue, surely eBay could figure out a way to allow Cdn sellers to list in $Cdn, use Canada Post options and collect taxes.  With all the monkeying around that goes on by software designers on this site, you'd think they could handle that little task. 

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@rose-dee wrote:
You know, Raphael, Pierre's comment above inspires me to ask a question that I've not seen anyone ask before, but that always runs through my mind when we see the "we are a small part of the US business" explanation:  Why does eBay have a .ca site at all? 

 

It seems to me it would be far more functional to have us all listing on .com (as I believe was the case at one point long ago), but offer different shipping options to Canadians.  Many Cdn sellers already list on .com anyway.  I know, a big question, but any thoughts?


Hello rose-dee,

 

Are you trying to put me out of a job? 🙂

 

I honestly think having eBay.ca is far better for e-commerce in Canada than it would be if Canadians had only eBay.com to use. Think about it: even if we killed off eBay.ca and made implementations to eBay.com to accommodate Canadians,  we still would be the same tiny fraction of CA users in the ocean of US users. Things would end up being the same.

 

With a fully Canadian site, even if the resources are sometimes thin, we can at least put programs together that are Canadian-specific, for example like shipping services that make sense for Canadians, appropriate tax tables and homegrown programs like our yearly Entrepreneur of the Year award.

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raphael@ebay.com wrote:


Hello rose-dee,

 

Are you trying to put me out of a job? 🙂

 

 


No, Raphael, you're far too efficient and knowledgeable to ever be out of a job -- I'm sure they'd pull you over into the big pond if this one ever dried up!  Woman Very Happy

 

It's just my wish, every time I see more "designer" changes to this site, that they'd focus just a wee bit more effort on making things work between the US and Canada. 

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