2008+ Toys, New OR Used, will require safety Certificate
Summary: The discussion focuses on new regulations from the CPSC set to begin on July 8th, requiring safety certificates for both new and used toys designed for children under 13, manufactured after 2008. Participants discuss the implications for sellers, particularly those dealing with vintage and collectible toys, expressing concerns over compliance and the potential impact on small businesses. vintageandglamor clarifies that toys made before 2008 are exempt, while those after require rigorous documentation. There's a shared concern about the difficulties in obtaining necessary certifications, especially for used items, and the potential impact on trade with the USA. Participants also discuss strategies for labeling items appropriately to avoid issues with customs.
CPSC rules, starting July 8th, will require not only new, but also used toys to e-file a safety certificate when designed for Children under 13.
Straight from the CPSC Website:
Q. Does eFiling apply to used products that were manufactured after a CPSC rule, ban, or standard went into effect?
A. Yes. If a used product was manufactured after the effective date of a CPSC rule, ban or standard, a certificate is required and if the product is imported as part of a commercial transaction, eFiling also applies. Commercial transactions include, but are not limited to, business-to-business, business-to-consumer and consumer-to-consumer sales.
If a product was previously required to be certified, pursuant to the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008 or the CPSC implementing regulation, importers must continue to provide the required certificate information through eFiling.
Some mumbling about couriers requiring the documentation already, although not required yet. I believe made before 2008 will get through OK but should be labelled accordingly. Will be messy either way.
reallynicestamps
·1 week agoWhat is CPSC?
Is it a Canadian organization? EU? UN?
Does this only affect exports to the USA?
I recognize that the US has traditionally been our biggest customer. But what with Orange Julius not yet impeached for senility and insanity, how much of your business is with the USA?
marnotom!
·1 week agohttps://www.ebay.com/sellercenter/resources/consumer-product-safety-commission-regulations
reallynicestamps
·1 week agoif you import certain clothing, toys, or other regulated products into the US,
US only. Got it.
fallsavenue
·2 weeks agoI sent a 60s Barbie outfit to the USA through the EIS and shipped it June 30. The listing was marked for 17+ and vintage was checked off. Hate to alarm you all but got this message yesterday from eBay.
We wanted to let you know that unfortunately this item could not be shipped internationally. As a result, your order can’t be fulfilled. This could be due to import restrictions or eligibility requirements. You get to keep the sale and we’ve issued a refund to your buyer.
They let me keep the money but this is VERY troubling. Seriously doubt pre-2008 means anything and I wouldn't dream of sending anything NIB that's labeled 3+ regardless of when it was made. Think there's a lot of misinformation at the moment so better to wait until we understand more.
For now, I'll be removing US shipping on most of my toys. Holy heck, if eBay can't get them cleared, what can we do?
There'll be delays now too with US Customs clearance which will hurt our businesses for sure. Not sure if it might be better to ship those only with CP rather than with my usual carrier (Stallion). Hopefully, it'll get better by Sept when we get busier. Just never ending hoops.
flipistics
·2 weeks agoClick Ship has released a blog post going into the new requirements a little more thoroughly. It's definitely worth a read.
https://www.clickship.com/blog/the-ultimate-ecommerce-guide-to-the-us-cpsc-efiling-overhaul
flipistics
·2 weeks agoAccording to the CPSC website, there's also this little nugget:
CPSC requires that CPCs be issued by the domestic manufacturer or the importer. This means that an importer cannot simply pass along a foreign manufacturer’s certificate of conformity
There's also mention that current restrictions on lead levels and some types of plastics apply retroactively.
easoss
·2 weeks agoI have a lot of these types of items. Luckily marketplace for me is a great way to move them. Slowly, all the fun and enjoyment is being sucked out of selling.
mandicrafts
·2 weeks agoeBay told me that this is not a requirement for vintage collectible toys.
I looked up how to ship them. The statement on an invoice and on the shipping label description must say "Adult Collectible. Not a toy. Intended for adult collectors ages 14+ "
and this would be under HTS code 9503.00.00.90 (other).
At the moment, Chit Chats is looking into this because as of July 3 they will be suspending all of the HTS codes to do with toys, whether vintage or not. They are discussing it with their broker and customs as to how to handle these issues with collectible toys.
For your listing to be seen in the USA, you need to put the age range in as 17+ and tick off the item specific that shows "vintage yes/no" and be in a vintage category. This Item Specific is recently added to toys and both of these requirements can be done via bulk edit.
clairescustomizedcustoms
·2 weeks agoHi, what would happen if someone accidently has item specifics as vintage and 17+ on an item that isn't. Alot of sellers just blindly sell similar and may never know if they accidentally misrepresented their listing item specifics.
goldhawkickz13
·3 weeks agoCan someone with more knowledge than me look at my listings and tell me if i need to just shut off all of them to usa?
There is no way i could get certification as i personally collect/purchased every piece that i listed.
john_koenig99
·3 weeks ago · EditedA quick glance at your listings show that the dolls and toys are fairly new. You need to go through all of them and find out if they were manufactured after 2008 AND if they were intended for children 13+ of age (I can see a few of them in the original boxes, showing a rating of 15+, in terms of age). The ones that are intended for ages below 13 fall into the category of the new regulations,
For those that have no age rating specified, you would need to either find the now required certificates, or stop offering them for sale to US buyers. I'd personally go with the second option.
goldhawkickz13
·1 week agoYup, sold a nerf Halo Mangler shipped it out well before 8th but now is still stuck at Detroit. Looks like its about not having a certificate. 🫣
Google ai told me hasbro would answer my request for the pdf so it would clear. Or even give ups the upc would enable them to look up for the registered certificate number for big brands's product. I hope this would work.
😮💨
byto253
·3 weeks agoFor Lego you can look up the certification by set number here:
https://www.lego.com/en-us/legal/notices-and-policies/compliance
clairescustomizedcustoms
·2 weeks agoHi, Does this apply for used lego sets also? What age ratings are exempt?
fergua3
·3 weeks agoAn iron curtain is slowly descending around the USA.
dolls-r-me
·3 weeks ago · EditedI sell mostly used doll collectibles, some of them are Barbie dolls and some were for kids...what do I do...sigh, already have to deal with zonos, now this, I don't even know what to do, is there a category for adult collectibles? I always use the code for dolls, which if I re-call is under toys.
vintageandglamor
OP3 weeks agoIf they are made before 2008, you should be fine. If later than 2008 , basically turn off shipping to the USA if made for 12 or under. If the they were originally labeled 12+ or 13+, etc, its OK to ship to the usa.
We have around 200 sets of mega bloks, Lego, plush, etc that will no longer be able to ship to the USA.
dolls-r-me
·3 weeks ago · EditedHow do I label it so they know it was before 2008, most are Barbie collector but aimed for adults, I have 15+ on my listings but how do I show that for customs? I guess I am wondering what HS code to use, or how to label so they don't get stuck or seized by mistake. Some doll were made after 2008, lots of the collector one, so how will that work, they are not made for children, but how do I prove that?
vintageandglamor
OP3 weeks agoHS Codes dont change. They are still toys. Even if now a "Collector" item as it is still desirable for a child as originally intended. it would still not be allowed in. Check the original box online for the item. If it says 12+, then its fine. If its before 2008, it is fine. If its 2009 and for 8+ years, even if a collector item, it cannot be shipped to the USA as you wont have the CSPC certificate, and the manufacturer wont give you one.
dolls-r-me
·3 weeks agook thanks!
clairescustomizedcustoms
·2 weeks agoHi, what about lego sets labeled for ages 12-16?
transtraders
·3 weeks ago"Designed for children under 13"
Who decides this and/or where is this information obtained?
vintageandglamor
OP3 weeks agoIt will be on all major toy manufacturer's packaging as its a requiement for all toys formally entering the US since 2008. Many overseas manufacturers have already pulled their listings as the testing is very costly. Customs will error on the side of caution if an item arrives that is a toy, clothing, or other article likely to be used by a child, especially at the start of enforcement on July 8th. We are pulling/restricting our US listings on Tuesday as items sometimes take a few days to reach customs. Not sure how EIS is going to handle this.
Manufacturers are NOT required to provide resellers or consumers copies of the CPSC certificate upon request, which is absolutely absurd in my opinion. Essentially limiting all toys entering the US from official channel retailers/wholesalers only. Used and 3rd party resellers will be locked out of the US market.
transtraders
·3 weeks agoYeah I guess my next question would be, is EIS going to handle this paperwork on my behalf. I hope so because otherwise sounds like another big headache and another blow to small sellers.
vintageandglamor
OP3 weeks agoNo. You must upload it on the item detail page. EIS will likely not show our listings unless the document is uploaded already. As mentioned, these documents are not publicly available and manufacturers have not been responding to requests to sed them.
clairescustomizedcustoms
·2 weeks agoHi, so unless in the item specifics our toy item is labeled as 12+ or 13+ in item specifics then we will need the document to have any US visibility right?
vintageandglamor
OP2 weeks agoIf the item falls within the requirements for the document (under 12, 2008 or newer), you must sign up for ACE, then e-file submit the document with them on each order. You will need to sign up for ACE manifest portal through their website. It'll take a few days to get setup as you will need an importer number as well.
clairescustomizedcustoms
·2 weeks agoHi thank you, and I will need to do this process over and over again for each item?
But 12+ is ok?
What if someone accidentally says their item is 12+ and pre-2008 in item specifics when it is not?
vintageandglamor
OP3 weeks agoThere were no child safety certificates before 2008. The FAQs state a certificate is not required for items prior to 2008. Anything 2008+ will need efiling.
john_koenig99
·3 weeks agoI wonder if this also applies to vintage, collectible toys (still in their original package)? They have almost zero chance to be played with...
lotzofuniquegoodies
·3 weeks ago@john_koenig99
Try selling a package of lawn darts. Will get pulled in seconds.
Ever watch an episode of the new show with Henry Winkler, Hazardous History? Covers all the toys and things we used to do way back when.
john_koenig99
·3 weeks agoFair enough.
But I was referring more to toys like Funko dolls, Matchbox/Majorette model vehicles, etc.
lotzofuniquegoodies
·3 weeks ago · Edited@john_koenig99
One would get the impression between the tariffs for N. America and the rules and regulations for N. America and EU they are systematically try to ban the importing and exporting of almost everything.
Free trade is becoming a misnomer.
Regarding eIS, considering they will be considered the exporter on record how is that going to work? Will any AI selected items just get filtered out of eIS shipping in 1 big swoop?
flipistics
·2 weeks ago@lotzofuniquegoodies Vintage lawn darts are a little different. My understanding is it's illegal to sell them, give them away, even inherit them. If the original owner dies, they have to be destroyed. Something to do with child endangerment laws.
lotzofuniquegoodies
·2 weeks agoThey were awesome to play with. We used to toss from front yard to back yard. All we had to yell, was incoming and we were good!! :-) Local police didn't show up once!!
byto253
·2 weeks agoUs too. Great fun. Made sure the dog was tied up!!!