Not exactly breaking news, this plan has been in the works for almost a decade.
From your link
"Canada Post is moving to eliminate the remaining door-to-door mail delivery across the country, with approximately four million addresses set to be converted to community mailboxes under a sweeping, multi-year transformation plan."
So 4 million delivery points will join the 13 Million addresses already using cluster boxes (or worse, having to go to a PO Box). I'd say it's about time given there is hardly any "new" (last 30+ years) residential developments that ever had delivery to the door.
Oh for sure there will be lots of whining from the "elites" in big cities when they are forced to go for a two minute hike to pick up their junk mail.
On my street there is only one side that will be suitable for a Community Box, I might get lucky and they will install it right next to the bike rental rack that is less than 30 metres from my front steps.
FYI - All the earlier proposals included an option for handicap/disabled persons to apply for an exemption. I'm sure it's also included in the current plan.
Not exactly breaking news, this plan has been in the works for almost a decade.
From your link
"Canada Post is moving to eliminate the remaining door-to-door mail delivery across the country, with approximately four million addresses set to be converted to community mailboxes under a sweeping, multi-year transformation plan."
So 4 million delivery points will join the 13 Million addresses already using cluster boxes (or worse, having to go to a PO Box). I'd say it's about time given there is hardly any "new" (last 30+ years) residential developments that ever had delivery to the door.
Oh for sure there will be lots of whining from the "elites" in big cities when they are forced to go for a two minute hike to pick up their junk mail.
On my street there is only one side that will be suitable for a Community Box, I might get lucky and they will install it right next to the bike rental rack that is less than 30 metres from my front steps.
FYI - All the earlier proposals included an option for handicap/disabled persons to apply for an exemption. I'm sure it's also included in the current plan.
@recped
@john_koenig99
@timelesstechtrove
Calgary started getting them in 2014. The program was suspended in late 2015 meaning older established neighbourhoods never got them. Areas of town (mostly the NE) were ummm fortunate to get them. In certain neighbourhoods they are relatively convenient. In others, not so much. My current community mail box is in the outter reaches in the scheme of being handy. For some the locations to put them was limited so went with good enough and there she be. The sidewalks around them get cleaned in the winter by contractors as fast as they can get to them. (You may need skates to get to yours.)
The largest nuisance of them is when you get that dreaded junk mail the vast majority of it ends up on the ground vs being taken home and disposed of properly. Using a recycling bin is really not that complicated. The built in mail slot is supposed to be the 2 cm for letter mail. It's more like 17/18 mm making dropping off items like dvd's challenging. If you are expecting parcels that don't require a signature they are safe and secure. To counter that there are occasional reports of them being broken into. They do not come with video surveillance.
Key Concerns and Incidents: Calgary and area
Frequency:Several Calgary neighborhoods have experienced strings of mailbox, or "superbox," thefts, with some locations targeted multiple times.
Method:Vandals have used screwdrivers or crowbars to pry open individual compartments, frequently targeting parcel compartments.
Identity Theft Risk:Thieves are primarily looking for personal identification, banking documents, and holiday gifts, raising fears of identity theft during tax season.
Targeted Areas:Incidents have been reported in areas including Nolan Hill, Forest Lawn, Montreux, West Springs, and Heritage Pointe.
In speaking to neighbourhood seniors or anyone with mobility issues it's 50/50 like em/hate em. I personally feel bad for anyone who has a very nice mail box to attached to their house. They've become really nice wall ornaments. Does anyone still get home newspaper delivery anymore?
And whatever you do do not lose your mailbox key(s).
The cost to replace lost or stolen community mailbox keys is $29 plus taxes. The fee can be paid at the post office when you pick up your replacement keys.
If you create labels for outbound parcels they can either be put in the mail slot (if they fit) or left in your personal compartment with a note for driver to take to sort centre. The driver WILL NOT SCAN so you do so at your own risk. You may want to speak to your driver and let them know to expect.
so i gather if a parcel is too large to fit in your personal box that you will automatically have to go to the post office to pick it up now? Or will larger packages be delivered to the door once first? If not, this is another step that will make CP a less attractive option to courier and other patckage delivery services...
There are a couple of unattributed oversize compartments which can store bigger items. The postman leaves the key to that box inside your own to retrieve it, and then you leave the key back inside. But if there are too many parcels that day, then yes some may be left at the post office for pick up later...
so i gather if a parcel is too large to fit in your personal box that you will automatically have to go to the post office to pick it up now? Or will larger packages be delivered to the door once first? If not, this is another step that will make CP a less attractive option to courier and other patckage delivery services...
@fergua3
I haven't gotten anything super large in ages, so most likely if an item does not fit in either of the 2 sizes of oversized mailboxes that are built in, item would get carded and you would get the pleasure of picking up.
The alternative would be signing up for Flex Delivery and then everything goes to your nearest post office held for pick up.
Put another way, the new normal when it comes to what happens with CP. Will be interesting to see how they follow through with their plan to close post offices and which ones will beon the chopping block.
if that's true that's a bad move by CP. They have said many times that they need the business from parcel delviery (which is why the want to be able to deliver on weekends, to compete). If oversized packages have to be picked up automatically that is a massive drawback and a huge reason to avoid using CP. They better rethink that one...there are already enough reasons to avoid using CP.
Small towns have been utilizing personal mailboxes for decades! (50 years or better)... and for ANY packages that don't fit that little mail box, a card is inserted for pick up from the postal outlet....so what if "oversized packages have to be picked up automatically?>" that is NOT " a massive drawback"...that's an excuse for lazy city slickers...
so i gather if a parcel is too large to fit in your personal box that you will automatically have to go to the post office to pick it up now? Or will larger packages be delivered to the door once first? If not, this is another step that will make CP a less attractive option to courier and other patckage delivery services...
I could be wrong, but I think this only affects lettermail. I'm pretty sure parcels will still be delivered to the door (where the service is currently available).
so i gather if a parcel is too large to fit in your personal box that you will automatically have to go to the post office to pick it up now? Or will larger packages be delivered to the door once first? If not, this is another step that will make CP a less attractive option to courier and other patckage delivery services...
I could be wrong, but I think this only affects lettermail. I'm pretty sure parcels will still be delivered to the door (where the service is currently available).
I'm not certain but am reasonably sure that it already works that way. Letter Carriers delivery letters and small packages (will transition to the Community Boxes) while larger packages are delivered to the door by mobile. It may also depend on the service used with Xpresspost packages going to the door but Expedited going to the community box (if they fit).
Anything requiring a signature will be carded for pick-up at the local P.O. just as it is now.
The standard Community Box has 18 individual slots, in some locations multiple boxes are used but in either case in high density areas like almost all of Toronto, 18 slots doesn't even cover one side of the street of one standard city block so I expect the average distrance to your box will be pretty small.
If you are disapointed to find nothing by junk mail you can sign up for informed delivery which will give you images of every item to be delivered to your box, you can then decide if you want to go for a short walk or not.
Can't say I didn't see this coming. Our company stopped using Canada Post after the second strike. It caused us significant headache and loss. We switched to UPS and never looked back.
recped
·4 months agoNot exactly breaking news, this plan has been in the works for almost a decade.
From your link
"Canada Post is moving to eliminate the remaining door-to-door mail delivery across the country, with approximately four million addresses set to be converted to community mailboxes under a sweeping, multi-year transformation plan."
So 4 million delivery points will join the 13 Million addresses already using cluster boxes (or worse, having to go to a PO Box). I'd say it's about time given there is hardly any "new" (last 30+ years) residential developments that ever had delivery to the door.
Oh for sure there will be lots of whining from the "elites" in big cities when they are forced to go for a two minute hike to pick up their junk mail.
On my street there is only one side that will be suitable for a Community Box, I might get lucky and they will install it right next to the bike rental rack that is less than 30 metres from my front steps.
FYI - All the earlier proposals included an option for handicap/disabled persons to apply for an exemption. I'm sure it's also included in the current plan.
lotzofuniquegoodies
·4 months ago@recped
@john_koenig99
@timelesstechtrove
Calgary started getting them in 2014. The program was suspended in late 2015 meaning older established neighbourhoods never got them. Areas of town (mostly the NE) were ummm fortunate to get them. In certain neighbourhoods they are relatively convenient. In others, not so much. My current community mail box is in the outter reaches in the scheme of being handy. For some the locations to put them was limited so went with good enough and there she be. The sidewalks around them get cleaned in the winter by contractors as fast as they can get to them. (You may need skates to get to yours.)
The largest nuisance of them is when you get that dreaded junk mail the vast majority of it ends up on the ground vs being taken home and disposed of properly. Using a recycling bin is really not that complicated. The built in mail slot is supposed to be the 2 cm for letter mail. It's more like 17/18 mm making dropping off items like dvd's challenging. If you are expecting parcels that don't require a signature they are safe and secure. To counter that there are occasional reports of them being broken into. They do not come with video surveillance.
In speaking to neighbourhood seniors or anyone with mobility issues it's 50/50 like em/hate em. I personally feel bad for anyone who has a very nice mail box to attached to their house. They've become really nice wall ornaments. Does anyone still get home newspaper delivery anymore?
And whatever you do do not lose your mailbox key(s).
The cost to replace lost or stolen community mailbox keys is $29 plus taxes. The fee can be paid at the post office when you pick up your replacement keys.
If you create labels for outbound parcels they can either be put in the mail slot (if they fit) or left in your personal compartment with a note for driver to take to sort centre. The driver WILL NOT SCAN so you do so at your own risk. You may want to speak to your driver and let them know to expect.
fergua3
·4 months agoso i gather if a parcel is too large to fit in your personal box that you will automatically have to go to the post office to pick it up now? Or will larger packages be delivered to the door once first? If not, this is another step that will make CP a less attractive option to courier and other patckage delivery services...
fh991586
·4 months agoThere are a couple of unattributed oversize compartments which can store bigger items. The postman leaves the key to that box inside your own to retrieve it, and then you leave the key back inside. But if there are too many parcels that day, then yes some may be left at the post office for pick up later...
lotzofuniquegoodies
·4 months ago@fergua3
I haven't gotten anything super large in ages, so most likely if an item does not fit in either of the 2 sizes of oversized mailboxes that are built in, item would get carded and you would get the pleasure of picking up.
The alternative would be signing up for Flex Delivery and then everything goes to your nearest post office held for pick up.
Put another way, the new normal when it comes to what happens with CP. Will be interesting to see how they follow through with their plan to close post offices and which ones will beon the chopping block.
mrdutch1001
·4 months agoFortunately, I live in a city, so community mailboxes are fine with me and if necessary, the nearest postal outlet is a 5 minute drive(15 min walk)
fergua3
·4 months agoif that's true that's a bad move by CP. They have said many times that they need the business from parcel delviery (which is why the want to be able to deliver on weekends, to compete). If oversized packages have to be picked up automatically that is a massive drawback and a huge reason to avoid using CP. They better rethink that one...there are already enough reasons to avoid using CP.
mrdutch1001
·4 months agoSmall towns have been utilizing personal mailboxes for decades! (50 years or better)... and for ANY packages that don't fit that little mail box, a card is inserted for pick up from the postal outlet....so what if "oversized packages have to be picked up automatically?>" that is NOT " a massive drawback"...that's an excuse for lazy city slickers...
flipistics
·4 months agoI could be wrong, but I think this only affects lettermail. I'm pretty sure parcels will still be delivered to the door (where the service is currently available).
recped
·4 months agoI'm not certain but am reasonably sure that it already works that way. Letter Carriers delivery letters and small packages (will transition to the Community Boxes) while larger packages are delivered to the door by mobile. It may also depend on the service used with Xpresspost packages going to the door but Expedited going to the community box (if they fit).
Anything requiring a signature will be carded for pick-up at the local P.O. just as it is now.
The standard Community Box has 18 individual slots, in some locations multiple boxes are used but in either case in high density areas like almost all of Toronto, 18 slots doesn't even cover one side of the street of one standard city block so I expect the average distrance to your box will be pretty small.
If you are disapointed to find nothing by junk mail you can sign up for informed delivery which will give you images of every item to be delivered to your box, you can then decide if you want to go for a short walk or not.
https://www.canadapost-postescanada.ca/cpc/en/personal/mymail.page?
timelesstechtrove
·4 months agoCan't say I didn't see this coming. Our company stopped using Canada Post after the second strike. It caused us significant headache and loss. We switched to UPS and never looked back.