Section 301 Tariffs
Summary: sapphyres-designer-jewellery shared their frustration with inaccurate tariff charges by Stallion on items exempt from Section 301 tariffs, initially charged at 10%. The discussion highlighted confusion over tariff application changes and the need for precise invoicing for import duties. lotzofuniquegoodies emphasized the lack of detailed invoices making it difficult to contest erroneous charges. While some participants mentioned potential refunds under certain conditions, sapphyres-designer-jewellery noted ineffective communication with Stallion and inconsistencies in tariff applications. A participant mentioned upcoming changes where all postal entries will adopt a 'formal entry' system for duties, aligning with courier practices.
So Chit Chats posted something sometime yesterday on their blog. What I'm getting (so far, of what's happening immediately) is that as of tomorrow the Section 301 tariffs will take effect and our new tariff rate will be 12.5% on almost everything from most countries, and a select few (including Canada, the UK and EU) will have 10% tariff.
They gave a link to a published list of exemptions. Stamps (9704) is not on the list, Banknotes (4907) is not on the list. One of my coin tariff codes (7118.90) is on the list for exemptions of Section 301, and they were exempted from Section 122, but Stallion has managed to charge me a 10% tariff on a 7118.90 shipment I did yesterday. I complained, so they replicated the shipment in my portal for me to finish, and it still has 10% tariffs on it.
They're not giving me any answers about why I'm paying tariffs on something that's specifically exempted (and was not being charged tariffs on it until a couple of days ago), and I'm waiting for them to implement the Section 301 to see if that fixes things and I can continue to ship those items tariff free (half my coins fall in this category, the other half are numismatic items and coins that are not legal tender, which do have the Section 301 tariffs).
It's getting frustrating to not be getting answers from anyone. Everything was fine until I shipped my orders yesterday and paid tariffs on 7118.90, now I'm wondering how long this is going to have to go on for before someone fixes it.
C.
sapphyres-designer-jewellery
OP2 weeks agoI have an update... Section 301 tariffs now appear on Stallion's page (I just used the dashboard to check a few HTS codes). So far everything I've shipped since Friday are items that don't have tariffs (one class of coins is exempt, which accounts for most of what I sell). These weren't appearing when I bought postage over the weekend.
sapphyres-designer-jewellery
OP3 weeks agoSo this morning I looked at products in my account on Stallion, and Section 122 was still being applied. I went down to my local Stallion branch (nothing to ship today because they were charging me tariffs on exempt items), caused some trouble, and sometime in the next 15 minutes all the tariffs disappeared from my products. A few things that are not coins/stamps had a specific "duty" (the Duty Rate on the HTS list), but no Section 301 tariffs are showing up yet.
What I'm not clear on, is has that even started yet? When I look online it's supposed to start today, so if that's the case why isn't it being assessed on my items that I'm shipping with Stallion?
sapphyres-designer-jewellery
OP3 weeks agoSo after all that drama, I went to ship my package (it was showing zero tariffs a few hours ago, and I spoke with Stallion on the phone who told me I was correct 7118.90 had no tariffs and they corrected it on their platform). Now I'm seeing again, Section 122 Tariffs of 10%. If there was section 301, then it would be 12.5 % because the coin is from Australia.
Stallion has emailed me back, I replied to them, but I'm not hopeful I'll hear back tonight unless they're working overtime. Looks like I might have to pay the duty. They did refund me on the duty I paid a few days ago on the other 7118.90 item.
ricarmic
·3 weeks agoI just did a few tests on Zonos Prepay, which is what I use for the Post office, so far the only ones I'm getting anything above Zero for stamps 9704.00.0000 are china 7.5% and Russia 35%.
Fortunately I'm on a wee vacation till the 29th so hopefully the dust clears a bit by then.....
mandicrafts
·3 weeks agoThe other major change on tariffs, is that the postal system will now be the SAME as the courier system for applying tariffs. It will be "formal entry" like couriers do, rather than "informal entry". Before this, postal methods only assessed the emergency tariff (informal entry) and NOT the base duties and tariffs that could apply. Now the postal system will charge and stack ANY applicable duties/tariffs that the item falls under as a "formal entry". This will apply to Canada Post AND the CBSs (like Chit Chats).
Zonos does have an estimator tool available on their site (not the app), to determine what tariffs will apply.
Chit Chats is doing a new webinar on Monday July 27 at 11 am EDT on the new Section 301 Forced Labour Tariffs that take effect at customs tonight.
lotzofuniquegoodies
·3 weeks ago · Edited@sapphyres-designer-jewellery
Not even taking into consideration tariffs being charged inaccurately I am curious to know if buyers are seeing when it comes to the tariff that is being charged and any processing fees and taxes are. As many of us can recall when in the past when we were billed for duties and processing with inbound shipments to Canada with CP etc we got a detailed invoice when we paid anything owing. Are US buyers and Canadian buyers getting a detailed invoice now when they purchase. Without one it is next to impossible to challenge when they are incorrect.
It's been a similar situation with provincial, state and accessorial taxes (recycling fees and the like) and how they show on an eBay invoice from day 1. Remember how we learned...show your math. Why doesn't this apply to eBay?
As per a search on the subject:
No, eBay buyers do not typically receive a separate, formal government customs invoice from eBay; instead, any prepaid import or customs fees appear directly on your standard eBay order details and checkout receipt. If fees are not prepaid, the shipping carrier (such as DHL, UPS, or Canada Post) will provide their own separate statement or COD (Collect on Delivery) notice upon delivery.
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Yes, import duties can absolutely be claimed back. Common situations where you are eligible for a refund include if you return the imported item, if the goods are defective or damaged, or if you overpaid due to a classification error.
sapphyres-designer-jewellery
OP3 weeks agoI ship with Stallion, they give me a breakdown on how much duties are paid on each package (I think they do that now, it used to just give me the total). The buyers I ship to have no idea what duties are unless I tell them. Because of Stallion, I can't claim errors or refunds (otherwise I'd be trying to get some of the $900 I paid in IEEPA tariffs back).
I'm just going to wait until tomorrow to see what happens when Section 301 starts, I am going to direct Stallion to the list that says 7118.90 is not subject to tariffs. Today it doesn't matter since it changes tomorrow anyway, and I have no USA packages to ship today.
I did notice though banknotes (fiduciary paper) was tariff free originally, and not anymore (at least it's not on the list). I haven't played around with Zonos to see what it gives me. People using Zonos have gotten stamps sent tariff free, but Stallion charges me Section 122 on stamps.
C.
lotzofuniquegoodies
·3 weeks ago · Edited@sapphyres-designer-jewellery
Stampede counts and behaves like all couriers do. For some reason e-commerce gets to bypass the rules. I noticed that the first time I used GSP and the order was cancelled and subsequent magical smaller refund I got by compared to my original payment.
This has all gotten very muddy when the tariff rates can and are changing week to week.
Whatever system one uses there needs to be an easy to use appeal process.
reallynicestamps
·3 weeks agoNot to mention the exchange rates- an ongoing question.
flipistics
·3 weeks agoYou sure about that? With the original tariffs the US Government seemed pretty specific that the tariffs were non-refundable (legality issues aside).
lotzofuniquegoodies
·3 weeks ago · Edited@flipistics
I've had to do it on a couple of occasions. Once when items got lost in transit. Another for a return goods situation which seems to getting reported. For others it might be for wrong tariff being applied. Another situation is being charged twice. They (a courier) may ask for payment prior to delivery. I had a buyer last year ask for a replacement invoice before customs would release. I sent them a pdf and it was released easy peasy. Without they would have had to repay. (Also why have a physical receipt is critical.) and as per @reallynicestamps exchange currency issues. Definitely a thing.
This is from first search.
Yes, you can get a refund for certain tariffs paid, specifically for unconstitutional emergency tariffs invalidated by the U.S. Supreme Court, provided you meet specific importer criteria and file a formal claim. [1, 2, 3]
Eligibility Rules
Importer of Record: Only the registered importer of record or authorized customs brokers can directly apply for and receive these refunds. [1, 2]
Eligible Tariffs: Only specific payments made under the invalidated International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) rules qualify. [1, 2]
Phase Limitations: U.S. Customs and Border Protection handles requests in distinct phases, with Phase One restricted to unliquidated entries and payments made starting January 30, 2026. [1, 2]
How to Claim
Filing Requirement: Refunds are never automatic; you must submit an electronic declaration using the U.S. Customs and Border Protection CAPE portal. [1, 2]
Third-Party Handlers: If a carrier like UPS Tariff Refund Processing acted as your importer of record, they may file on your behalf for eligible shipments. [1]
Processing Time: Approved claims are typically paid electronically via ACH within 60 to 90 days. [1, 2]
2nd search as per CP.
Yes, you can get a refund for tariffs (duties and taxes) paid on a package, but you must request it directly from the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA), not Canada Post. Canada Post only collects the money on behalf of the government and cannot approve custom duty refunds, though duplicate online payments may be auto-refunded. [1, 2, 3]
Eligibility Rules
Returned Goods: The item must be sent back to the seller.
Personal Use: Goods must be for personal use.
Proof Required: You need proof that you paid the duty and proof that the item was returned or refunded.
Handling Fees: Canada Post’s handling or brokerage fee is non-refundable. [1, 2]
How to Apply
Download Form: Get the casual refund form from the CBSA Official Site.
Attach Documents: Include your Canada Post tracking number, customs receipt, and return paperwork.
Mail Claim: Send the package details and forms to the address listed on the CBSA refund instructions. [1]
How do I cancel my duty and taxes payment?
Once the transaction is complete, you can't cancel the payment. You can ask for an adjustment of the duty and taxes assessed on the package directly with CBSA after it’s delivered.
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What should a customs invoice include?
What is required on a customs invoice?
Name and address of the shipper and consignee.
Description of goods.
Quantity of goods.
Total weight of goods.
Unit Price.
Total Price.
Harmonised System (HS) code.
Invoice number.
Vs what from my checking what eBay provides
An eBay International Shipping (EIS) customs invoice is a system-generated commercial document created entirely by eBay. It features an eBay branding header, a domestic hub address as the intermediate destination, the final international buyer's address, and itemized purchase prices with pre-paid duties and taxes. [1, 2, 3, 4]