August 12th 2015 Weekly Board Hour

Hello Canadian eBayers,

 

Welcome to our weekly chat. Opening up the format a little this week, I'll be with you on & off between now and sometime after 1 pm. Please start posting at your convenience.

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@dutchman48 wrote:

raphael@ebay.com wrote:

@dutchman48 wrote:

raphael@ebay.com wrote:

@dutchman48 wrote:

raphael@ebay.com wrote:

@dutchman48 wrote:

I sent a cancellation request to a buyer due to he opening a dispute for non receipt on a previous order.

 

He agreed to cancel so the sale was cancelled.

 

He paid for the item about 3 weeks later. How was this possible. My Ebay shows different information the the Escalation department screen does.

 

Their file number is 1-52112186301

 

What do I do now. I don't want to deal with this buyer, he is on my blocked list, and I don't want to mail and open myself for INR claim again or allow him to leave feedback.

 

Basic question, why does Ebay allow a buyer to pay for a cancelled sale and again, open sellers up to buyer abuse?

 

 


It shouldn't be possible to pay for a transaction that was already cancelled. May I have he item number? The number you gave is a CS case ID number which I am unable to look up.


391169427162


I see no payment issued for this item in your My eBay, and it shows as cancelled. Did the buyer pay you directly on PayPal?


Here is what I received from Paypal

 

PayPal logo Aug 7, 2015 11:31:17 PDT
Transaction ID: 7FH19440HV7437847
Hello John Zwikstra,

You received a payment of $7.50 USD 
Thanks for using PayPal. You can now ship any items.To see all the transaction details, log in to your PayPal account.

It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in your account.

Seller Protection - Eligible
 



Buyer

Note to seller
The buyer hasn't sent a note.
Shipping address - confirmed

Shipping details
You haven’t added any shipping details.

Description Unit price Qty Amount
1976 Fort McMurray Alberta Trade Token Map Voyageurs Train NO EXPIRES
Item# 391169427162
$5.00 USD 1 $5.00 USD
Shipping and handling $2.50 USD
Insurance - not offered ----
Total $7.50 USD
Payment $7.50 USD

Payment sent
 
 
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PayPal Email ID PP753 - 9f16e5ae4b01


The buyer paid you directly from PayPal. There is nothing eBay can do about that.


Here is what it shows on MY EBAY and both checkout and the $ sign are dark blue

 

  Buy it now
1976 Fort McMurray Alberta Trade Token Map Voyageurs Trai... (391169427162)
dragonsly72 | 1081 | 100.0%
Shipping cost: US $2.50
 
Buyer Postal code: J3A1A3
Tracking number: [Add]
Watch Count: 0
This order was canceled. View details

US $5.00

C $11.75

Buy It Now
or best offer

+ US $2.50

C $3.28

shipping

10/07/15

         

It is also showing under awaiting shipment on Ebay. If they paid direct through Paypal, how does my Ebay acct get involved since they are no longer combined

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@dutchman48 wrote:
But it does not state anything about shipping, who pays, If Ebay will refund you,.etc. I know the policy, it is the shipping costs to return an international shipment that is not explained or clarified.

At this time, for international SNAD returns, the same policy as domestic applies: the seller is responsible for return shipping. If the return is not because of the item was not as described, the seller's stated return policy applies.

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@dutchman48 wrote:
It is also showing under awaiting shipment on Ebay. If they paid direct through Paypal, how does my Ebay acct get involved since they are no longer combined

From your "Awaiting shipment" section:

 

My_eBay_Selling_Manager_Sold_Listings_for_dutchman48 2.jpg

 

If you click the icon I have circled in red, you will see that as far as eBay is concerned, this transaction is cancelled.

 

It is possible that your buyer is attempting to make this transaction go through off eBay. I would advise caution with this as if you did go through with it in this manner, eBay wouldn't be able to protect you in case anything goes wrong with the buyer.

 

If you don't want to go through with this transaction, you will need to go to PayPal and refund the buyer. You will get no cancellation defect on eBay as a result since it is already cancelled.

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raphael@ebay.com wrote:

@dutchman48 wrote:
Here is what it shows on MY EBAY and both checkout and the $ sign are dark blue

 

 Buy it now
1976 Fort McMurray Alberta Trade Token Map Voyageurs Trai... (391169427162)
dragonsly72 | 1081 | 100.0%
Shipping cost: US $2.50
 
Buyer Postal code: J3A1A3
Tracking number: [Add]
Watch Count: 0
This order was canceled. View details

US $5.00

C $11.75

Buy It Now
or best offer

+ US $2.50

C $3.28

shipping

10/07/15

     

The info you just posted suggests that the transaction was cancelled. See the link on the right "See cancel details".

 

When I look at this item in your Selling Manager's Sold Items, here is what I see: transaction stated as being cancelled and no blue $ icon:

 

My_eBay_Selling_Manager_Sold_Listings_for_dutchman48.jpg


I can appreciate that but the checkout and $ are blue, not blank. I will try to do a screen capture for you

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@dutchman48 wrote:
I can appreciate that but the checkout and $ are blue, not blank. I will try to do a screen capture for you

I didn't photoshop my screen shot I swear!

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raphael@ebay.com wrote:

@dutchman48 wrote:
I can appreciate that but the checkout and $ are blue, not blank. I will try to do a screen capture for you

I didn't photoshop my screen shot I swear!


Here is my screen shot of my ebay for the item

 

 

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ebay item screen capture.jpg

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Picture added and not photo shopped either as I do not have the program

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@dutchman48 wrote:

raphael@ebay.com wrote:

@dutchman48 wrote:
I can appreciate that but the checkout and $ are blue, not blank. I will try to do a screen capture for you

I didn't photoshop my screen shot I swear!


Here is my screen shot of my ebay for the item

 

 


Okay, I see it when I look outside of your Selling Manager. It still says it's cancelled next to it though (See cancel details where as the other 2 items in your Awaiting shipment section say Print shipping label). Not sure why that is, but the facts remain:

  • your buyer paid directly from PayPal
  • proceed with caution if you decide to go through with the sale
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This concludes our weekly chat for today. Thanks all for participating and see you next week!

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