Blocking a bidder

phoenix_top_drawer
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Hello all,

Grass! I can see grass! Yay! But I digress. I have just blocked a bidder who made an inquiry about one of our auctions. In checking the feedback he has left for others, I find him to be a scary man.
Does anyone have any thoughts on the wording of the please go away letter I will send him by way of answering his inquiry?
Does anyone have a sense of how to let e-bay know that there is a bidder with what is clearly a pattern of feedback extortion and general nastiness?

Thanks
Brad
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jaymor8
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Dear Ebayer,

Upon perusing your feedback and feedback left for others, I have become slightly uncomfortable with having you bid on my auctions. Please remember that the feedback forum is a testimonial to our habits, actions and behaviors and with the information that I have acquired from that very forum, I chose not to trade with you at this time. I do however, wish you much luck in all of your future undertakings and hope you enjoy the experience to the fullest, which is how it was meant to be!

Sincerely,

The Blocker...
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jaymor8
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chose = choose
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whoscloset
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Very nice note, Jackie!

Monique

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Great letter. I have added it to my file.
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jaymor8
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Well, you're very welcome, I'm sure. It was the best I could do on short notice 🙂

Jackie...
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phoenix_top_drawer
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Jackie,

Many thanks. My day job involves a fair bit of writing and I've gotta tell you that I'm impressed. My partner Joanne opined "my gawd that's a good one".

The next question is how do we let ebay know about people like this? The word toxic comes to mind.

Brad
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jaymor8
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Brad - that's a very good question. We are always led to believe that ebay is on top of eveything but obviously they aren't. I would just send an email to ebay under the subject 'questionable content' or something along that line. So that way, even if it's the wrong department, they will forward it to the right place. But, I seriously hope that you do it because far too many people let that stuff slide and ultimately someone gets screwed.

Good luck, either way!

Jackie...
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ospreylinks
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Very nice Jackie, better than I was going to suggest...

"Hey Jerk, that's right you!!!.... flock off"

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shooger
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What's eBay going to do about someone who likes to make other people's feedback profiles messy? I mean, come on, they won't even NARU people without a valid email anymore, or sellers using stolen credit cards to pay their eBay fees, or known scam artists.

Sometimes I think eBay is run by about 4 guys in their early twenties, eating twinkies and downloading porn.
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amberwoodottawa
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It could be that its a bit more of dowloading twinkies and eating porn.


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www-labels4less-com
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Once you have made that decision that you do not want somebody's business for the reasons you have stated, I see no need to even respond to any questions they send you. If you do not want to do business with them under any circumstance, there's no place for pleasantries. Let them think you are a real stinker for not answering emails and they will move on.
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shooger
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I'd do the same as labels - ignore the idiot. They probably already forgot they emailed you.
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cutecoins
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Here is an odd problem....a guy that has asked a lot of questions...and then demands feedback..... Normally if a customer has been good...we give them feedback before they recieve the item. Then there is the customer who hounds you for a feedback after the auction after being a jerk... Geeee I am tempted to give him a neg for being such a pain in the $%%$# and of all things the four emails send a minute apart demanding feedback...
I think the best thing to do is say nothing.... We cut him off our sales in the future....
Jim B.
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amberwoodottawa
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Jim B
Excellent decision. That was exactly what happened with my last neg.

I had rec'd 2 emails from the buyer before the auction ended and then 12 over the following week before payment was sent.

The package was sent and I went away on holidays and while away he emailed me and thanked me for the service, the quick shipping and the excellent product and in the same email asked for positive FB. (Remember I'm still away on vacation)

Then I get a SQ notice with the rudest comments imaginable, calling me a liar and selling junk followed by a neg.

I know he neg'd me as I didnt leave him his requested FB when he asked for it.

The sad thing is he bought something from me that I have sold over 150 of with 100% positive comments from everyone from students to professionals.

One of these instruments was sold in a music store I was at that I have a relationship with on Thursday to a professional nusician who teaches violin and who paid over twice what he paid.

I have been exercising extreme caution with people who ask me for my phone number and email me with "dumb" and repeated questions. In anticipation of taking a vacation, I broke my rules and sold to this bum who did all of the above.

That's why in my neg to him, I said I knew he was going to be trouble. (PS he began spamming me for 3 days until I reported him to his ISP as eBay did NOTHING!!!!!)

Again, smart move. The profit is not worth the aggrevation.

Malcolm
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deltone
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I have been finding that I'm getting a lot of "send me the tracking #" emails and MANY of them do end up being problems. I ship small items and thus no tracking and I get the feeling that some buyers know this and when they confirm I can't provide a tracking #, for some strange reason, the item NEVER shows up. Hmmmmmmmm, how curious!!!
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Most of my items are also small and shipped via CP with no tracking available deltone because no one would pay for the true cost of delivery that way...it would be impossible to sell a $10 DVD with a $10 shipping charge! Just won't happen.

So whenever I receive one of those e-mails, I too wonder "Why are they asking for tracking info on an item that is still well within the expected delivery window?" Although I try to be trusting and helpful, and realize that most buyers consider this an innocent question, I would never admit to any buyer that their shipment cannnot be traced. So to head off the possibility that they might simply be testing the waters to determine whether or not their item is trackable (and if not, a candidate for chargeback under a false claim not received), I have an all-purpose response that seems to do the trick.

1. I inform them that the our post office will only deal with the sender in their native country. Therefore, tracking info would do them no good at all because CP won't even talk to them, just refer them back to the sender. A waste of their time and the cost of a long distance call to boot.

2. Then I also remind them that CP will not even initiate a trace while the item is still within the quoted delivery window (usually 10 to 14 days, and up to 30 for some international destinations). If the buyer's query about tracing is innocent and legit, they will typically receive their item before the trace process would ever kick in. The problem evaporates when they open their mail a few days later.

Since nearly 80% of my buyers are outside Canada, predominantly in the US (where these questions invariably come from--in my experience, rarely within Canada, and never overseas), in one fell swoop, my little white lie leaves the buyer no choice except to deal with any possibly lost, damaged, or misdelivered items directly through me. And yeah, even if I'm stretching the truth there, typically, they do not know that...the important thing is that they believe the item is traceable. The good buyers will be comforted and remain patient, and the bad ones will think twice before pulling anything sleazy.

Of course, that's not 100% fool-proof, but as a general deterrent, even if causes only a handful of potential rip-off artists to think twice, then it's worth it. Only in a couple of rare cases where an item truly had gone astray did anyone ever press me further about tracking...and interestingly, they were never the ones asking those questions about trackability early on in the transaction, so I was inclined to believe them.
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deltone
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Thanks for the tips doc. I'll use that if you don't mind as I really HATE telling them I have no tracking # as I've had several now who all of a sudden didn't get the item. I hate to not believe them but it just seems suspicious to me. THANKS AGAIN!!
deb
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You're certainly welcome deltone.

PayPal's 'trackability' requirement is the real problem here--it simply makes no practical sense when shipping small, low cost items, especially internationally. So anything Sellers can do to protect ourselves against those Buyers who would use that flaw in the transaction process to scam us, is I think, a forgivable little white lie. Guilty...with an explanation.

And you know, for all the horror stories we hear about wonky mail service, in my own rather limited experience, very, very few items actually get lost or severely mishandled by CP or USPS...usually they're merely delayed by border-point Customs or Security depending on the general hysteria of the alert levels that particular week. For high end items (typically, anything over $25.00 US) my shipments still go out XPressPost fully insured and trackable, but for the lower cost more routine items, well packaged lettermail is not only very fast and dependable but competitively priced, and within the range of what Buyers expect to pay.

That's a risk, to be sure, but I think a reasonable one. Very seldom will a refund be necessary, but I've kind of built that into my 'flat' shipping rate anyway--the assumption being that one in every hundred or so shipments will have to be refunded on those grounds. But even when that does happen, I don't really mind because by not letting the Buyer know upfront that their shipment never was fully traceable, I'm certain I'm saving as much or more on scam non-delivery claims.
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BTW, sorry for the topic digression OP, but that was a good question about an issue that affects most PowerSellers, and I haven't seen any other threads addressing it.

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