02-15-2016 04:44 PM - edited 02-15-2016 04:46 PM
Last week I mailed 2 items (1 LetterPost, 1 Lt Pkt) to a US forwarding company in Portland, Oregon. The address was correct as per PayPal. The items were to be forwarded to NZ.
My NZ buyer has just informed me that the forwarding co. address has changed. Evidently they moved and she gave me the old address. I have no way of knowing if they left a change of address with USPS. Of course she has asked me to resend once they are returned to me. Some questions:
1. Will I ever get these returned and how long does this take?
2. Will I have to pay to get them back?
3. I have no way of knowing if they will ever get back to me or get to her in NZ. (No tracking, of course))
Because of the new defect system I am thinking I should just do a cancellation for incorrect address (can I even though item has been shipped?) and take the loss. If she does get them and wants to repay that's fine, if not it's only about $35 US.
Any helpful suggestions appreciated!
02-15-2016 04:53 PM
@vintagenorth wrote:Last week I mailed 2 items (1 LetterPost, 1 Lt Pkt) to a US forwarding company in Portland, Oregon. The address was correct as per PayPal. The items were to be forwarded to NZ.
My NZ buyer has just informed me that the forwarding co. address has changed. Evidently they moved and she gave me the old address. I have no way of knowing if they left a change of address with USPS. Of course she has asked me to resend once they are returned to me. Some questions:
1. Will I ever get these returned and how long does this take?
If they don't get delivered they will be returned, it can take a long time (weeks at least, 1 or 2 months would not be unusual
2. Will I have to pay to get them back?
Probably not for the LetterPost, maybe for the Light Packet
3. I have no way of knowing if they will ever get back to me or get to her in NZ. (No tracking, of course))
You'll know if the buyer tells you they never showed up.
Because of the new defect system I am thinking I should just do a cancellation for incorrect address (can I even though item has been shipped?) and take the loss. If she does get them and wants to repay that's fine, if not it's only about $35 US.
Not sure what the defect system has to do with anything?
Any helpful suggestions appreciated!
If this is a legit forwarding service (instead of just a friend/relative thing) I can't image that they would not have thir mail forwarded from the old address (unless the change took place a very long time ago).
02-15-2016 06:38 PM
Sorry recped, I should have said new delivery standards, not new defect system. If it takes a long tome for these to get back to me for sure I will miss my delivery dates through no fault of mine. Well, other than I guess I could have charged a ridiculously high shipping fee and included tracking. I don't think so, not for a couple of knitting patterns.
i have researched and I think I have the name and new phone no. for the forwarding company (isn't Google maps great) so will give them a call tomorrow. Sure hope their CS people are in the US!
02-15-2016 06:50 PM
@vintagenorth wrote:Sorry recped, I should have said new delivery standards, not new defect system. If it takes a long tome for these to get back to me for sure I will miss my delivery dates through no fault of mine. Well, other than I guess I could have charged a ridiculously high shipping fee and included tracking. I don't think so, not for a couple of knitting patterns.
i have researched and I think I have the name and new phone no. for the forwarding company (isn't Google maps great) so will give them a call tomorrow. Sure hope their CS people are in the US!
Even if you end up with a defect, it should be easy enough to get removed on the grounds the buyer provided an incorrect address.
02-15-2016 07:01 PM
@vintagenorth wrote:Sorry recped, I should have said new delivery standards, not new defect system. If it takes a long tome for these to get back to me for sure I will miss my delivery dates through no fault of mine. Well, other than I guess I could have charged a ridiculously high shipping fee and included tracking. I don't think so, not for a couple of knitting patterns.
i have researched and I think I have the name and new phone no. for the forwarding company (isn't Google maps great) so will give them a call tomorrow. Sure hope their CS people are in the US!
Since you didn't use tracking you can only get a shipping time ding if the buyer answers No to the "did you receive on time" question. Since you shipped to the US and I assume that's the address the buyer used paid it's almost certain that going through a forwarder and then going to NZ it's going to be late no matter what additional delay there might be due to the incorrect address.
Of course if the buyer doesn't leave feedback they won't get the question and thus it won't count even if it is late.
Get used to it, if you are shipping from Canada to the USA via Canada Post AND without any tracking you are going to have some late shipment dings. For the rest of the world the delivery time estimates may be sufficient.
02-15-2016 09:33 PM
I think this is going to end up as a big(ger) headache. I may actually have to call eBay about the incorrect shipping addresses if all else fails. Just as a heads up in case of late deliveries.
i wish eBay shipping preferences allowed us to say no shipping to these forwarding companies. There are too many problems shipping to them, it's always a gamble.
02-15-2016 09:51 PM
@vintagenorth wrote:I think this is going to end up as a big(ger) headache. I may actually have to call eBay about the incorrect shipping addresses if all else fails. Just as a heads up in case of late deliveries.
i wish eBay shipping preferences allowed us to say no shipping to these forwarding companies. There are too many problems shipping to them, it's always a gamble.
Why is shipping to a forwarder problematic? Buyers who don't use them are just as capable of failing to update their address.
Although I ship worldwide I'd rather ship to a forwarder in the USA than to a buyer in NZ, certainly it's going to be faster and easier to get delivery confirmation if that's important to you.
02-15-2016 09:55 PM
@vintagenorth wrote:I think this is going to end up as a big(ger) headache. I may actually have to call eBay about the incorrect shipping addresses if all else fails. Just as a heads up in case of late deliveries.
i wish eBay shipping preferences allowed us to say no shipping to these forwarding companies. There are too many problems shipping to them, it's always a gamble.
I deal with forwarding companies on a regular basis (as a seller but as well as a buyer) as I often get customers in specific countries I block (lack of tracking) purchasing via forwarding companies. They are no more trouble than dealing with a regular buyer, other than sometimes they have a labeling request. Were I concerned about late defects for an untracked shipment, I'd be more concerned shipping outside of NA than shipping to a US based forwarder. The scenario you are describing could happen with any buyer and isn't limited to forwarding companies.
Call ebay if you end up with a defect, not really a big deal if the buyer has declared the wrong address. You've done nothing wrong and have a perfectly plausible reason to get a potential defect removed.
02-16-2016 02:37 AM
My NZ buyer has just informed me that the forwarding co. address has changed. Evidently they moved and she gave me the old address.
When we closed our shop, we purchased a Mail Forwarding service from the Post Office for a full year. When we moved, we did the same for our household, for six months.
I don't believe the PO will forward packages. However, we were getting auction catalogues which are large and heavy enough to qualify as packages, so it may be partly up to the guy at the sorting station.
Since your buyer was using a company that just moved, rather than going out of business, I can't imagine the company not setting up some method of dealing with this problem. Even if it is having someone drive over to the old location daily, picking up the parcels and giving the receptionist chocolates (or the warehouse guys a two-four).
If the package is undeliverable, the PO will eventually return it to you. However, this is not an important job for them, so it could take months.
02-16-2016 08:56 AM
Thanks. This is a huge multi-national corporation, OIA Global and after googling Google earth I think they probably moved a long time ago. Looks like they have been at the new address for some time. Anyway, I have emailed them. We'll see if I get an answer.
now I think about it, the address from my buyer didn't even say a company name, just her name and an account number, then a street address so I think the pkgs will just go to the address on them. I really doubt they will ever get back to me or forwarded on.