Do you beleive Harper

will be voted out coming election time?

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The real sad part is we have to wait until 2015 to remove Harpo clown from office ..............
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I honestly think The Pot thing will be a bigger factor then most think atleast to anyone paying attention to what legalizing could do for the country .. Keep in mind your talking about something that is not even close to as bad as Booze or cigarettes ad the only science they got is that plant matter is no good to smoke ..( hope they didn't spend to much money figuring that out)

 

I am an X pot head so I really see both sides very clearly and the amount of Tax dollars it can produce and Save canada is Astronimical ..

 

We are a have not province right now and Legalizing Pot alone can change that ..

 

I agree with you in the sense that nobody will look at it as an important matter but if those who are against can look past there narrow finding fictional stereotypes they might just realize the importance and potential it can provide for this country ...

 

I mean if Statistics are true nearly 50% of Canadian have smoked pot  and that is going by how many are willing to admit it ..

 

Hemp  from the plant is an extremely durable fibre that can be quickly reproduce opening up an entire new Market on top of selling and taxing pot ..

 

I believe if people really understood the potential and new the Truth about the plant  it could potentially be a big factor ..

From Taxes to cost of filling up jails and wating cops times to the Medical Health Benefits right down to the stem of the Plant it should be Renamed the Miracle plant...

 

Don't get me wrong it may potential make people a little chubby after a few to many bags of cheaps and chocolat bars but even Alot of doctors are slwly becoming Advocates because if you haven't ever watched a PILL commecial that we very much widely deem acceptable your would understand that having the munchies and watching a movie is alot less of a side effect then Then te 8 million symptoms these stupid pills produce that we  deem a great way to treat people with illnesses...

 

 

My biggest thing in my humble and stubborn opinion is Defence Spending on our countries Military and Job creations but trust me 3rd on the list is Pot to which can Also aid my first 2 concerns

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I agree legalizing mj will put a fair sized cog into the above the table economy - and most likely with little or no increase in consumption - issue is a huge win win - I doubt whether many people will take it seriously but you never know...

 

Another issue that's just on the rise right now that is gonna bite Harper is the falling price of oil. Just as we steam into election year throttle-wide-open and belching smoke, ever more dependent on the tar sands, it seems that there is a *possibly* coordinated international effort to lower oil prices.

 

Saudi Arabia sees the writing on the wall. Fracking in the U.S. and elsewhere causing a glut of conventional oil. Everyone knows a few dollars off the global price makes tar sands bitumen uneconomical to produce.

 

So, first time they get a chance, why wouldn't the Saudis sieze the opportunity to manipulate the price downwards. Now, while AB is still landlocked, a few well timed moves by the Saudis (or who knows who else... Russia, Iran...?) could set the tar sands development back 10 years. Who is going to chase around trying to sell pipeline projects when production costs in the tar sands exceed revenues for the foreseeable future?

 

* What finer time could there be than during the 2015 campaign for Canadians to wake up to the fact that Harper has totally failed at the one thing that he has staked his legacy on more than anything - the tar sands.

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I read that the Saudis produce the oil for about $20. a barrel and can easily afford to lower the price even more. The Oil sands in Canada need $80-$85.00 to make it profitable. If this keeps up Canadians will be looking for "Plan B". Putting all your eggs in one basket is not a good plan.

 

On CBC today they were talking about this. The Gov'ts promised tax breaks for 2015 could be at risk. The NDP's Child Care Program could be at risk. ( the one they took from the Liberal plan...LOL ). The fact is that all election promises are at risk if oil prices stay low.

Which should be a warning to our Gov't. As long as there are other countries that can undercut the price of your Natural energy sources you better have some eggs in other baskets.

 

Personally I'm watching the stock market closely. So I know when to bail.

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What's with Justin writing a book like maybe wait awhile instead of being a pompous upper class twit' I thought Harpo was pompous but fuddle duddle talkes the cake.
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We are a have not province right now and Legalizing Pot alone can change that ..

 

Thanks to provincial liberal goverment.

If we want Canada to be a have not country all we have to do is vote in JT.

 

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If we want Canada to be a have not country all we have to do is vote in JT.

 

By recklessly throwing all our eggs in the oil basket Harper has truly put us on a fast track to have-not status. Now that the Saudis have clued into manipulating the market by *lowering* prices, and with reliable alternative fuels and energy coming onstream, the window is closing fast on Harper's dream of becoming an oil shiek.

 

And his policy of preferential treatment for foreign corporations (even state-owned ones!) over Canadian workers has put us in the *extreme* downhill route in the race to the bottom.

 

JT will return Canada to balanced common sense Liberal management and prosperity that we can all be proud of.

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JT will return Canada to balanced common sense Liberal management and prosperity that we can all be proud of.

 

Like Kathleen Wynne's government?

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Maybe we should just compromise and vote Rob Ford for PM, after all look what he has done for Toronto..... Man what a choice Canadians have to deal with.
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You got that one right Lurk, common sense tax and spend the Liberal way to poverty.

"It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are."--Unknown
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Rob isn't running for PM.

He would be better than JT.

 

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Never.  He throws the people who work(ed) so hard for him under the bus to avoid any flack.  He's the phoniest man I've ever seen in Canadian politics, about a tie with Trudeau the first.

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@valve37 wrote:

You got that one right Lurk, common sense tax and spend the Liberal way to poverty.


As I recall, Canada was in better financial position under the Liberals.

True Fiscal Conservatives are disappointed in their performance.

 

The Liberals had 10 consecutive budget surpluses that went to paying down 81.4 Billion of our debt. The Conservatives have had nothing but deficits since being elected.

The Conservatives have added 176 Billion to Canada's debt since 2006.

Approx. 24% of Canada's total debt since Confederation was by the Harper Gov't.

 

It's true that this Gov't spends 10's of millions every year telling you what a good job their doing - but it's not true.

 

Anyone looking at the figures - knows it's not true.

 

 

 

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Yup let's not forget Adscam by the Libs how soon we forget. JT is mini Pierre you have only one original just move on nothing to see........
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@2014sportsterguy wrote:
Yup let's not forget Adscam by the Libs how soon we forget. JT is mini Pierre you have only one original just move on nothing to see........

So how much money was wasted by the sponsorship scandel?

How was this scandal discovered?

What part of the gov't was responsible for it?

 

Under today's conditions, would a scandel like this be discovered?

Does this current  "accountable" gov't give the auditor general enough material to reveal if it's taking place?

 

I totally agree with you. Let's not forget. And let's make sure that this Gov't and future Gov'ts cannot get away with it simply by

refusing to report the facts to the Auditor General. Like this Gov't is.................

 

 

 

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Incoming prime minister Stephen Harper says his government's first act upon assuming power will be to table a federal accountability bill and promises that it will be in line with recommendations of the Gomery report.

Speaking in Ottawa on Wednesday just hours after Justice John Gomery released his second and last report into the federal sponsorship scandal, Harper praised the work. He also promised that his government would do its best to implement the recommendations.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/harper-promises-new-era-of-accountability-1.593762

 

So how did that work out? I guess his best wasn't very good.

 

It appears the auditor general has to result to suing them for information. So did the previous one.

It's not likely that you'll find out the truth from these Gov't officials.

 

Liberals that told the truth to the Auditor General about adscam had more intregrity in their little finger than this gov't.

 

This gov't learned from them. Don't tell you ( the public ) or the auditor general the truth about anything. Just pretend that you're accountable and advertise as such.

 

Canadians are still waiting for the truth from them.

 

 

 

 

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Unless each day can be looked back upon by an individual
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Heading for a surplus in 2015 should be good for some election goodies! Call it the incumbent advantage.

 

How Did Canada’s Deficit Shrink So Much?

 

"Last week, Mr. Harper stuck to the government’s original forecast of a small budget deficit in the current fiscal year and a surplus in 2015-16, although private-sector economists suggest a surplus in 2014-15 is doable.

Mr. Harper and his Conservative government are banking on improved public finances and the eventual return to surplus to bolster their case for re-election next year. The Canadian leader added that the improving financial situation means the government could “quickly” implement tax-relief measures, with some possibly introduced as part of the Finance Department’s fall economic statement. That’s expected to be delivered sometime this month or next."

 

http://blogs.wsj.com/canadarealtime/2014/10/06/how-did-canadas-deficit-shrink-so-much/

"It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are."--Unknown
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How Did Canada’s Deficit Shrink So Much?

 

Who knows? It only took them 10 years to do what the Liberals did.

 

In the meantime, future generations are going to have to pay off their additional 175 Billion debt somehow.

The Harper Gov't won't have to worry about that.

 

Your kids and Grand-children will Valve.

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Government debt obligations: 

 

"Types of securities sold by the government include treasury bills, notes, bonds, TIPS, Canada Savings Bonds, and provincial government securities."

 

And you would like to stop this type of funding? Not good for pension plans, RRSPs, RRIFs, TFSAs and li'l ole ladies that rely on CSBs for income.

 

Got a better idea?     

"It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are."--Unknown
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