For Ontario Liberals, the convention speeches mattered

The received wisdom is that convention speeches don’t matter much, and often they really don’t. But on Saturday, as a couple thousand Liberals gathered to choose Ontario’s new premier, perhaps they mattered just a little bit – if only because of how perfectly they encapsulated the choice with which delegates were faced.


From Sandra Pupatello, who entered the convention as the frontrunner, there was a professional but impersonal and surprisingly dispassionate argument for why electing her would be the smart choice for a party that wants to win the next election. From Kathleen Wynne, there was a warm and confident and distinctly human appeal to Liberals’ better angels – to embrace their social consciences, to be optimistic, and most boldly to set aside any qualms they might have about an openly gay premier.


It was an appeal to the head, against an appeal to the heart. And Liberals, who have grown worried that their party has lost its way while clinging to power, went with the choice that would make them feel better about themselves when they left the arena on Saturday night.


Of course, it was a lot more complicated than that. Ms. Wynne won, in large part, because she was able to convince three out of four lower-ranking candidates to support her. For at least one of them, Charles Sousa, her strongest appeal was probably that she would be able to avoid a spring election. For all of them, superior strategic outreach and relationship-building throughout the campaign gave her an edge.


But delegated conventions are inherently emotional events, and even some supporters of Ms. Pupatello conceded there was something different in the air on Ms. Wynne’s side of the floor.


Ms. Wynne’s supporters were younger and louder and seemed less like they were going through the motions. As her momentum grew, from her speech through her surprisingly strong first-ballot result and then the defections to her camp, there was a sense of energy and enthusiasm that seemed to be fuelled by the prospect of making history, and returning its party to the values that had drawn them to it, and maybe wresting some control away from the Liberal establishment that Ms. Pupatello seemed more to represent.


As infectious as these emotions may have been within the slightly surreal confines of the convention, it remains a long shot that they’ll translate when the Liberals get back out into the real world. Among other things, Ms. Wynne will shortly be charged with tackling what is still a very daunting provincial deficit, contending with the day-to-day grind of a minority legislature, schlepping baggage accumulated during more than nine years in power, and dealing with the unions that spent the day angrily protesting outside the arena’s doors.


That’s an awful lot to ask of a rookie premier, and most Ontarians won’t much care how much can-do spirit she has if she stumbles out of the gate.


Ms. Wynne, who has something of a technocratic streak to go with her activist roots, surely understands all that. “Believe it or not, this was the easy part,” she correctly advised her supporters during her victory speech.


But that other speech, the one that began the day, was the one they’ll be remembering for a while. And if they were ever going to come together and at least try to tackle the really hard stuff, it might have been the one they needed to hear.


 


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The Ontario Liberals are to be congratulated (for once) on choosing their leader based on the person.  Prior to the convention, some Liberals were questioning whether the party would take the "risk" of electing an openly gay candidate.  In the end, it was  the preceived quality of the candidate that mattered. 


Bravo!

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The fact that Kathleen Wynne is a liberal and was a cabinet minister in McGuinty's administration will hold her back.


I would consider voting for her except for those reasons.


 

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I don't understand why they feel the need to even mention Wynne's sexual preferences. They did not say heterosexual Pupatello, so why would anyone say gay Wynne? It has nothing to do with her ability to do her job and is none of the public's business.

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My guess is that they mentioned her sexual preference only because she is the 1st openly gay premier in the province.


Hopefully we will eventually live in a country where it won't matter at all.


Her sexual orientation and gender should not affect people's decision of whether to vote for her or not.


 

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The fact that Kathleen Wynne is a liberal and was a cabinet minister in McGuinty's administration will hold her back.


I would consider voting for her except for those reasons.


 


I agree with lurk. I think Wynne was a poor choice and I have no idea why they chose her. But I am still trying to understand why the Federal Libs at one time chose Dion. That never made any sense to me either! Pupatello would have even been better because she was not part of McGuinty's decisions. But the best choice I still feel would have been Kennedy with a whole fresh new outlook. I think he has never been chosen because he is in the estimation of many party Liberals.....too laid back. The internal party politics are looking for a fire and brimstone candidate. Kennedy one day will have his chance....but as of now he has always been the bridesmaid and never the bride.





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Hopefully we will eventually live in a country where it won't matter at all.


 


I hope so, too.


That is probably the reason why it is a big deal.


A few years ago, no political party would have run a gay candidate for dog catcher, let alone party leader.  It would have been considered suicidal. 


It shows we have come a long way. 


 


The fact that Kathleen Wynne is a liberal and was a cabinet minister in McGuinty's administration will hold her back.


There was a round table discussion on AM980.  Several of the panelists felt that she should call an election.  It was felt that she would lose - but the loss would be on McGuinty's head.  She would then have a chance to make her mark and establish a name for herself.  Odds are, whichever party is elected in the next Provincial election, they will not get a majority.  So, it might not be too long before she got a shot at winning. 


 


choice I still feel would have been Kennedy best


He was my choice, as well.  But, not being a card carrying Liberal (or Con or NDP), my vote didn't count. 

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Several of the panelists felt that she should call an election.  It was felt that she would lose - but the loss would be on McGuinty's head. 


 


She was a cabinet minister in McGuinty's government. It will take more than one election for her to not be associated with McGuinty.


 

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Of course what she wants right now is to not have an election! Look at the Harris government. They lost Big Time!


 


She is hoping to avoid an election until she has a chance to probably fix some things, maybe roll some heads and show some of the voters she is different than McGuinty. If she can do that....is a whole other matter.


However she does have one person helping her.....Hudak. After Harris and also some of the things Hudak has said, he's about as popular to a thinking voter as a submarine with a screen door.


The NDP know they are not in the right position as of yet so they have laid out what they want Wynne to do and a big part is accountability and open some books. It would be a huge mistake on Wynne's part to avoid either.  





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Most voters don't want an election.


Some of the best legislation in the country happened with minority governments.


Hudak's attack ads are not helping him.


 

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Some of the best legislation in the country happened with minority governments.


 


Very true.





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Bunch of crooks and Liars...


The red and blue parties have ruined this country...


Stop voting for them....


The red and blue parties have been in power for almost 150 years..


Stop voting for them.....


This government charges Property TAX...They don't even own the land..it belongs to the natives...


Stop voting for them.....


This government charges Income Tax.....to buy weapons to kill people


Stop voting for them....


This government buys drones to spy on u...

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I was wondering if it could be sung to the tune of, say Mary Had a Little Lamb, but it can not. .  That is some messed up iambic pentameter you got going on there dude.

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