
11-05-2015 05:32 AM
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11-07-2015 02:02 PM
Hi Pierre
I have this ID that I list in both US and Can currency. I also have a different ID that is set up in the US on .com as well as a US Paypal account. I quit using the US account due to no FVF discount shipping from Canada. Paypal will also not allow a bank account to be set up under 2 different ID's.
My Can Ebay account is set up to pay Paypal in Canada and I can transfer to the US bank account or Canadian account at this time.
I may have to address in the future where I want my US account attached.
11-07-2015 02:05 PM - edited 11-07-2015 02:07 PM
"if they've decided they're going to do something anyway, just come out and tell us, announce an implementation date and give us some time to adjust and adapt, or decide to go elsewhere."
Unfortunately, from experience, I know that is not how large businesses work.
I suspect eBay is being pressured by Head Office in San Jose to become a single currency site like all other eBay sites. The final decision may not have been made yet but everyone, including eBay.ca staff, sees the "writing on the wall".
From my perspective, eBay-Canada is making the right moves at this time.
First they deleted the suggestion of listing in US$ and suggested Canadian sellers would benefit from listing in Cdn$ (and I agree with them.)
Now they are coming with a Canadian promotion for sellers listing in Cdn$ exclusively. It is not a bad move towards converting eBay.ca to a single currency site. These things take time and education. That is exactly what they are doing.
(Now I really resent eBay.ca offering a short term promotion while - on the same day - eBay.com offers a long term promotion. But that is a different subject.)
11-07-2015 02:08 PM
Hi Pierre,
I hope you are right on that time frame but the Spring Update is usually the bad one so it could be then also depending on how much time E-Bay wants to give us notice.
My business plan than will really change then and it will be retire time
11-07-2015 02:19 PM
I'm less worried about ebay Canada becoming a single-currency site than I am about one day having to pay extra to list on ebay.com as well as ebay.ca. I would hate to see an 'American Site Visibility' fee like the 'International Site Visibility' fee that I pay to have my listing also shown on ebay.co.uk.
Or maybe I shouldn't give anyone ideas.
Shhh.
11-07-2015 02:34 PM
For me, being obliged to list only in $Cdn on .ca will mean a serious re-thinking of my whole business model. I wouldn't mind an honest heads-up.
I thought that you were listing on .com now so that shouldn't affect you?
11-07-2015 02:37 PM
If Canada goes to a single currency, the ability to list freely on .com will probably also go away except for the same conditions every one else has at this time.
11-07-2015 03:33 PM
@pjcdn2005 wrote:For me, being obliged to list only in $Cdn on .ca will mean a serious re-thinking of my whole business model. I wouldn't mind an honest heads-up.
I thought that you were listing on .com now so that shouldn't affect you?
No, it will affect me quite seriously. Due to considerations around increased costs associated with listing on .com (and the loss of some important features), I decided I had no choice but to ultimately limit the "experiment" of listing on .com to about a third of my items - essentially those that had been most likely in the past to attract multi-item orders.
All the rest (which actually represents the majority) will stay on .ca, listed in $US, until eBay no longer allows it. By that point, who knows whether I'll still be able to hang on here anyway.
11-07-2015 03:44 PM
Why would that happen? You are jumping to a conclusion about something that hasn't even been suggested.
Plus, as far as I know, there is nothing limiting other sellers from listing on .com. If you want to go list on another site you can...you just have to follow their rules if they are different.
One advantage that we have is that .ca listings are automatically shown on .com but listings on other countries are often not shown there. I can't see that changing anytime soon as that would be leading to the end of .ca. There aren't enough buyers in Canada to sustain all of the Canadian sellers.
11-07-2015 04:04 PM - edited 11-07-2015 04:06 PM
" Due to considerations around increased costs associated with listing on .com"
???
Could you please explain those "increased costs".
I have been listings on both sites for as long as i can remember and I am not aware of any "increased costs"
"until eBay no longer allows it. "
Where does that come from? eBay allows sellers from all countries in the world to list on .com under the same terms. eBay has worked that way since it was founded twenty years ago.
What makes you think for a second that eBay.com would restrict Canadians from listing on their site? Frankly there is no logic to that statement.
I can see that coming from some posters suffering from paranoia (there are many here) but not from you.
11-07-2015 04:22 PM - edited 11-07-2015 04:24 PM
But I believe you can only list their free allotment. If you have a store, I don't believe you can list 200 + 100 on any other site than .com
This was brought up on the .com boards previously
11-07-2015 04:32 PM
I wasn't thinking of the store factor but you are probably right, sellers from other sites can't double their stores listings by listing on another site. But they haven't ever mentioned anything about changing that and I don't think that changing to Cdn$ on .ca (if they do that) has any relation about how much we can list on .com.
11-07-2015 04:40 PM - edited 11-07-2015 04:44 PM
Pierre, I think you completely misunderstood my post (both comments). I'll try to elaborate:
" Due to considerations around increased costs associated with listing on .com"
???
Well, the explanation for exactly why this is so is a fairly long, complicated one that I didn't want to have to take several paragraphs setting out. Nor do I really want to disclose all the strategies I've built up on .ca over the years. Suffice it to say it has to do with the way I organized my business on .ca to take maximum advantage of every possible discount and freebie available, which is simply not possible to do as a Canadian seller listing on .com.
Believe me, there were some not insignificant cost concerns that I had to accept in listing on .com, in exchange for the hope that listing on the U.S. site would circumvent the "cart disconnect" and provide increased sales to offset some of the losses. So far it's been a wash. I'm hoping November might be better.
"until eBay no longer allows it. "
Where does that come from? eBay allows sellers from all countries in the world to list on .com under the same terms. eBay has worked that way since it was founded twenty years ago.
What makes you think for a second that eBay.com would restrict Canadians from listing on their site? Frankly there is no logic to that statement.
You misunderstood me. Please read my post again. I said I would continue to list in $US on eBay.ca until it is no longer allowed. I'm quite certain that listing in $US on the Canadian site will be phased out at some point in the relatively near future, if Rodney's comments can be believed.
If that occurs, I won't list in $Cdn simply in order to stay on .ca because I am certain it will not help my sales to my primarily US buyers (for the reasons I set out in my post above, and then some). Once eBay restricts eBay.ca listings to $Cdn only, if I still want to stay on eBay I'll move all my listings to .com so that I'm able to continue to list in US dollars.
11-07-2015 04:47 PM
"I don't believe you can list 200 + 100 on any other site than .com"
That is correct.
Somehow the ability of Canadian sellers to double their free listing allotment is simply a small loophole that has not (yet) been plugged because it is largely immaterial to eBay.
However, we (eBay sellers with a store) are given only one allotment when we sign for a store and agree to pay a specific amount of money every month. The additional "free" listings some of us get by listing on both sites should be considered "gravy" and not something to count on.
The same concept was true with most free listings promotions. The promotions for XX many free listings were generally available on eBay.com and/or eBay.ca. Many Canadians took advantages and listed on both sites.
However, the most recent promotion announced by eBay a few days ago closed that door. The promotion is available for listings on eBay.com exclusively.
The same thing applies in Europe. If eBay.uk has a promotion, it does not mean the Germans or the French or the Italians can participate.
Somehow in North America we Canadians have had this advantage and many have taken advantage of it. It is not something that is owed to us. Just something we can take advantage of while we can. It will not last forever.
11-07-2015 04:51 PM
Now you are making an assumption that Ebay cares about Canada. I am sure many of the US listers are not happy about our privileges .
Somewhere down the road, Canada will have to be treated as any other country and have to abide by the same terms as UK, Australia, etc. No special perks or punishments.
Personally, that is the way it should have been set up a long time ago. Most countries can not compete with the US postage rates. Our problem is we have no domestic market for a lot of products. I can buy most things cheaper in the US, hence why I prefer to use US $.
11-07-2015 04:53 PM
see my post below as I agree 100%
11-07-2015 04:59 PM - edited 11-07-2015 05:00 PM
Somewhere down the road I may have to reopen my store on my .com ID for US dollars. Change my Can store to Can dollars and billing and run both separate from each other.
I changed that so I could get the 20% discount on FVF's on everything but I think that will change in the future as well.
Big difficulty in the US now is their on time delivery issue and how it will affect Canadians listing on .com. The US may stop that in the future as well and only able to list by SIN of SS #. in the 2 countries respectively
11-07-2015 05:26 PM
"but I think that will change in the future as well."
It may or it may not. However that is a long way down the road. There is no need to make such decision at this time.
For the time being getting 20% rebate on FVF is based on Global TRS, regardless where you list or what currency you use. Take advantage of it. It is real money in the bank.
11-07-2015 05:41 PM
@dutchman48 wrote:Now you are making an assumption that Ebay cares about Canada. I am sure many of the US listers are not happy about our privileges .
Somewhere down the road, Canada will have to be treated as any other country and have to abide by the same terms as UK, Australia, etc. No special perks or punishments.
Personally, that is the way it should have been set up a long time ago. Most countries can not compete with the US postage rates. Our problem is we have no domestic market for a lot of products. I can buy most things cheaper in the US, hence why I prefer to use US $.
No, I am not assuming that at all. I know they look at things from a business point of view, just like we should.
Which 'privileges' would U.S. sellers not be happy about?
They can list on .ca just like we can list on .com.
I'm sure many of them don't know that and probably would be intimidated by it but they could double thier
store listings as well.
It should have been set up separately long ago? Why is that? Regardless of how it is set up, the U.S. would still be our biggest market and we would still have to compete again U.S. sellers. I don't really see any benefits to being totally separate. Any buyer protection goes by the site the buyer is on so as long as we have U.S. buyers, we have to follow their rules.
11-07-2015 05:52 PM - edited 11-07-2015 05:54 PM
@pierrelebel wrote:
Somehow the ability of Canadian sellers to double their free listing allotment is simply a small loophole that has not (yet) been plugged because it is largely immaterial to eBay.
Why do you say "immaterial"? I'm curious why you think eBay would consider it immaterial -- do you mean that it's a very small number in relation to the overall volume of listings on eBay in general? Or that they really haven't taken much notice (or remembered it's there) like an obscure, minor piece of legislation buried in the past?
Somehow in North America we Canadians have had this advantage and many have taken advantage of it. It is not something that is owed to us. Just something we can take advantage of while we can. It will not last forever.
I do agree with this, but I had to smile. It reminded me that Canadians often want to have their cake and eat it too. When it comes to wanting to be differentiated from the Americans, we're all on board, yet we expect it's in some way our position as "special neighbours" to share in privileges or benefits that Americans enjoy. This is frequently true not just on eBay, but in general.
11-07-2015 05:56 PM
They can not list 200 + 100 like we can with a store and most do not want to. They do not need Canada for a market but we definitely need them.
We have more lax requirements for TRS 20% discount than the US and many Canadian sellers would not make it if we followed the same requirements.
I am waiting to see what happens with the on time delivery guarantee come February as it is a big concern to a lot of people.