NEW PROMO: LIST 2000 IN CAD BY INVITATION

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List FREE - 2,000 auction-style or fixed priced listings Start Date *  End Date 

Pay no insertion fees on 2,000 listings when Canadian Dollar is specified as the currency. Learn MoreNov. 05, 2015

05:29:30 am EST

Nov. 15, 2015

11:59:59 pm EST

 

Invited sellers who activate the offer and then create a listing with Canadian Dollars specified as the currency in the auction-style format, auction-style with Buy It Now format, or fixed price format, pursuant to the terms and conditions set forth herein ("Qualifying Listing"), will pay no insertion fee per item listed ("Promotion") for up to 1,000 listings during the Promotion Period (as defined below). 

The Promotion does not apply to listings with 1-day or 3-day duration, final value fees, or optional upgrade fees. Final value fees will be applied to the total amount of the sale, including the cost of the item, shipping, and any other fees a seller may charge—excluding any sales tax. Fees for optional listing upgrades (such as reserve price, bold, listing in 2 categories, etc.) still apply. For listing in 2 categories, you will be charged at standard rates for the second category. Please note: Not all upgrades are available in all listing flows. All existing selling limits on your account (as well as category and item limits) still apply, and may prevent you from creating the maximum number of listings in this Promotion. The Promotion is in addition to the free listings per month as part of the everyday rate plan.

Who's eligible?

This Promotion is available to sellers who: (i) activated the promotion from the invitation email or on the Promotion landing page; and (ii) meet eBay's minimum seller performance standards. Please sign in to My eBay and view your Seller Dashboard to verify whether your account is currently meeting the standards.

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This is EXACTLY why I refuse to list in $CAD: currency fluctuation. Canadian purchases of my items are paltry compared to US and Europe. I need to price using $USD as a proxy for a worldwide standard currency. This has nothing to do with "OMG we're not the 51st state" rants out there, this is purely business.

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Does slight "currency fluctation" really matter?  Just packaging my CAN$ sales this weekedn going to USA (multiple), Russia, Finland, Norway.  No one cares they were in CAN$ as they clicked through paypal

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"Does slight "currency fluctuation" really matter?"

 

Not really.  I think many Canadian sellers misunderstand how pricing works on eBay's marketplace.

 

If an item is worth US$10.00 to an American or €9.30 to a German or Italian, the same will sell just as well if priced at Cdn$13.00

 

The buyer sees the converted price in search results.  When priced at Cdn$13.00, the American buyers see US$10.00 in their search result page while the European sees €9.30.

 

 

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I honestly don't believe it bothers foreign buyers to see CAD. I have to assume that if they are shopping with an international seller in an international marketplace, they 'get' that we all use different currencies. Listing in CAD and selling on ebay.ca an item located in Canada is a major plus for other Canadians, though. As a buyer, I avoid like the plague items not listed in CAD right now because our dollar does not favourably compare and I don't want to pay a conversion fee on top of that. My purchasing power is staying within the border. The flip side of that is that the CAD in comparison to other currencies makes it look like everything is a sweet, sweet price to foreign buyers.

 

However, if my business model was selling products to Americans nine times out of ten, listing in USD directly on ebay.com would be the way that I'd go. Ditto for listing directly on ebay.co.uk if that's where the majority of my buyers were. For me, CAD works great, it works in my favour. If I listed in USD, it would only serve to irritate my Canadian customers and eat into my profit because I'd be paying additional fees to paypal for foreign currency conversion on every sale. 

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Wow! Lots of great food for thought in this thread, thank you to all.

 

I have never purposely listed my items in CAD, but will give it a try with my hockey cards. I'll keep the prices about the same, and since shipping is fairly cheap, I won't change the amount that is there already.

 

I do not have a store, so I'm happy for any free listings ebay does throw my way. Would I have preferred the .com promo? Of course, but I will take whatever ebay offers.

 

All those who are trying it out, please let the rest of us know whether it helped or not.

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@pierrelebel wrote:

"Does slight "currency fluctuation" really matter?"

 

Not really.  I think many Canadian sellers misunderstand how pricing works on eBay's marketplace.

If an item is worth US$10.00 to an American or €9.30 to a German or Italian, the same will sell just as well if priced at Cdn$13.00

The buyer sees the converted price in search results.  When priced at Cdn$13.00, the American buyers see US$10.00 in their search result page while the European sees €9.30.

 


This is all very true, but not the whole story.  For any seller whose primary marketplace has traditionally been the U.S., there are other important considerations.    

 

If for example, my U.S. competitors are selling an item at $16.99 US and I want to be sure my U.S. buyers will always see a stable price when comparing my items (which I would list at $15.95), then listing in $US is the only answer.  I simply do not  want my U.S. buyers to see my prices jumping up and down, however slight the fluctuations may be.  There is a reason prices are set at $12.99 and not $13.00 -- this is a marketing truth as old as commerce.   

 

The only way to avoid this problem would be to monitor and adjust Canadian dollar pricing frequently -- and who wants to have to do that when there is a far easier way (listing in $US)?

 

I also believe there is a difference between the "international" buyer and the U.S. buyer.  A European (or any non-US buyer for that matter) may be more receptive and accustomed to seeing foreign currencies displayed once they click on a listing (along with the converted price in their own currency), but I think U.S. buyers will expect to see pricing only in U.S. currency when buying on what they consider "their" U.S. site (eBay.com).  In my view, the display of a Canadian equivalent next to their own currency says "foreign" to a U.S. buyer, particularly one who hasn't done a great deal of buying online outside of U.S. retailers.

 

A related problem I see is that the Canadian number of the price shown on the listing will be considerably bigger than the U.S. dollar price (by around 25% with the existing currency exchange).  We all know how little attention is paid by many buyers to details, and that may be especially true of newer eBay buyers using mobile devices.  

 

My point is, why deliberately take any risk at all in turning off buyers because of the above factors if you have an overwhelmingly U.S. market, especially if your competitors are largely or wholly in the U.S.?  It makes no sense to me to list in $Cdn when I have the ability to list in the currency that is the lingua franca of the vast majority of my buyers. 

 

One more thing:  I just don't buy that eBay Canada's "new advice" in this regard is in completely good faith.  I may be alone in this view, but I think eBay needed to find a way to convince or cajole Canadian sellers into listing more items in $Cdn on eBay.ca because eventually there will be no choice.  What would the result be for eBay.ca if the vast majority of Canadian sellers migrated their listings to .com from one day to the next once eBay closed the gates on listing in $US on .ca?  So I have to wonder for whose benefit this "new advice" (and the $Cdn listing promo) are really intended.

 

Without providing us with some of the defining data behind their "new advice", in my view whatever recommendation eBay Canada makes to us with regard to listing currency is not only suspect but also meaningless.  I think every seller simply has to do what they know has been working best for their particular situation, for rational, real-world reasons. 

 

All this being said, as I've mentioned before, the effect may be different if you have (or expect to have) a significant Canadian buyer base and/or items that will appeal to Canadians, and/or if you are in a category whose buyers who are generally older or more sophisticated.  But then that has always been true anyway.  We didn't need "new advice" to figure that out.  

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@mjwl2006 wrote:

 

However, if my business model was selling products to Americans nine times out of ten, listing in USD directly on ebay.com would be the way that I'd go. 


Yes, but what has been so great about eBay.ca is that ever since I began on eBay many years ago, a Canadian could list on .ca in $US and as long as shipping to the U.S. was included, a U.S. buyer would see the Canadian seller's listings just like any other .com listing.  Of course the Canadian location is displayed, but it used to be less prominent than it is now.  

 

In other words, there was (and still is) no real need to list directly on .com in order to benefit from equivalent visibility there.  This will of course all change if Canadians are ultimately obliged to list only in $Cdn on .ca, and that is why I'm upset at the prospect of losing that privilege.  

 

I know it's a perquisite that few (if any?) other countries have had on eBay, but it was a fair-minded nod to the fact that we Canadians face challenges (such as higher postal costs) in selling to what for many of us is our primary market next door.  

 

I was comfortable on .ca, but with a U.S. buyer base of over 95% of my transactions, I'll have no choice but to move over to .com should this change occur.  My only real objection is not that eBay Canada will very likely phase out the ability to list in $US, but the disingenuous way this whole thing is being done.  

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"...there are other important considerations.    "

 

Of course there are.  Toby and I addressed the comment about "currency fluctuations".

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@rose-dee wrote:

 

....I was comfortable on .ca, but with a U.S. buyer base of over 95% of my transactions, I'll have no choice but to move over to .com should this change occur.  My only real objection is not that eBay Canada will very likely phase out the ability to list in $US, but the disingenuous way this whole thing is being done.  


I hear you. But I'm happy to have the carrot-on-the-stick instead of just a whack with a stick to the seat of the pants like I got from the last big 'freebie' that gave everyone and their neighbour's dog double the listings except those people like me who subscribed to a Premium store. I'll take the 2000 CAD listings and like it, I will, better than the thwack I got here: http://announcements.ebay.ca/2015/10/15/7726/

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@pierrelebel wrote:

"if they've decided they're going to do something anyway, just come out and tell us, announce an implementation date and give us some time to adjust and adapt, or decide to go elsewhere."

 

Unfortunately, from experience, I know that is not how large businesses work.

I suspect eBay is being pressured by Head Office in San Jose to become a single currency site like all other eBay sites.  The final decision may not have been made yet but everyone, including eBay.ca staff, sees the "writing on the wall".

 

From my perspective, eBay-Canada is making the right moves at this time.

 

First they deleted the suggestion of listing in US$ and suggested Canadian sellers would benefit from listing in Cdn$ (and I agree with them.)

 

Now they are coming with a Canadian promotion for sellers listing in Cdn$ exclusively. It is not a bad move towards converting eBay.ca to a single currency site.  These things take time and education.  That is exactly what they are doing. 

 


Pierre, you seem to have had a completely different view of eBay on this subject a short while ago: 

 

http://community.ebay.ca/t5/Seller-Central/selling-on-ca-listing-in-USAD/td-p/312243  (see your Post #4). 

 

What has changed? 

 

While I agree with you that eBay Canada is most likely being pressured by eBay HQ, I felt your earlier opinion on this matter was far more on the mark, i.e. that eBay was not being honest with sellers.  I still believe that is the case. 

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@pierrelebel wrote:

Toby and I addressed the comment about "currency fluctuations".


 

As did I.  

 

My opinion is that they are far more important than 'toby' suggested, but for other reasons than he set out. 

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Thank you for taking the time to summarize my reasons for refusing to list in $CAD.  How this seems to be brushed off by so many doesn't compute to me.

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" How this seems to be brushed off by so many "

 

????

 

"brush off" may be the wrong choice of words. 

 

In fact, many Canadian sellers know from their own extensive experience (on eBay and elsewhere online) that selling in Canadian dollar is advantageous to them.  There is no "brushing off" here. 

 

It would be a mistake to ignore their decision and their thinking behind that decision. 

 

Now, other Canadians may have a different opinion.  We still live in a free country where a difference of opinion is welcome.

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I use Turbo Lister but I'm not seeing the ability to change my US listings to Canadian in bulk, only one by one. Could you explain how you do it, in case I'm missing something? Thanks.

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For now, you have to use Sell Similar or simply create new listings from scratch if you want to move USD inventory to CAD. We are working on bringing tools to make this task easier in the near future, stay tuned for that.

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Raphael

 

It can be done on Turbo Lister now but only if they were listed on .ca. You have to highlight the ones you want to change (only in the inventory file is the best), click on edit, on top right of the screen, click on the currency arrow and then Canada, click save on bottom right of page.

 

Keep in mind it will convert US to Can dollar for dollar so you may have to make price adjustments.

 

Also, all shipping will have to be changed as well which can also be done bulk edit the same way but you have to change all shipping fields and then click save. It will convert your original US shipping to Can dollar for dollar again.

 

WHAT I WOULD DO FIRST IS MOVE 1 ITEM INTO INVENTORY, DUPLICATE IT AND PLAY WITH THE DUPLICATED ITEM TILL YOU BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCEDURE

 

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If you want to move a file, highlight it, put your mouse on it, hold left button down and drag to the inventory file. You can do a whole block of files the same way but takes a little longer time wise to move. I have done a hundred at a time with no problem.

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raphael@ebay.com wrote:

For now, you have to use Sell Similar or simply create new listings from scratch if you want to move USD inventory to CAD. We are working on bringing tools to make this task easier in the near future, stay tuned for that.


For eBay to actually spend the time and effort to make a tool to do this move from US $ to Can $ ONLY on the eBay.ca Canada site strongly implies that ebay is going to drop the US currency as an option in the near future (1 year or less). Why does eBay.ca Canada not just openly state that this is what is going to happen right now and not hint all the time at this?

 

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I am also worried that once it happens we will lose our ability to double up on .ca and .com to get double the listings.

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I suspect the writing is on wall for both the CAD currency and .ca-only listings. But that's just a hunch on my part.
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