New letter mail prices

[triber]

Does anyone have a simple chart for letter mail, Canada US and International without metered etc on it.

[cumos55]

Unable to find  new lettermail prices on Canada Post website.

They were with the January increases,   and all reference to the January increases appears to have been deleted from the Canada Post website...

[ypdc_dennis]

Lettermail stamp rates

Effective Monday, March 31

Canada
 30g  - 0.85
 50g  - 1.20
100g - 1.80
200g - 2.95
300g - 4.10
400g - 4.70
500g - 5.05

USA
30g  - 1.20
50g  - 1.80
100g - 2.95
200g - 5.15
500g - 10.30

International
30g  - 2.50
50g  - 3.60
100g - 5.90
200g - 10.30
500g - 20.60

Info: from the Canada Post website (early December)

[triber]

Thank you so much dennis, that's just what I wanted, I always have a hard time finding things on the Canada Post website.

[cumos55]

Prices confirmed from my personal information...

[pjcdn2005]

Dennis's list is more compact but here are the links if you want to see the pricesheet on the web

http://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/supportdocuments/lm_pricesheet_advance_march312014-e.pdf

http://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/supportdocuments/lp_pricesheet_advance_march312014-e.pdf

[pocomocomputing]

For Lettermail 30 grams within Canada, the prices are $1.00 single stamps, $0.85 for booklet, $0.75 for metered.

What denomination of stamps do you put on a 30 gram envelope? I understand that the above is the price you pay for 30 gram service using the different methods of purchase but what amount of postage do you put on a 30 gram envelope?

I use discount postage stamps so do I put on $0.85 or $1.00 in old mint stamps?

All other rates are clear as to what amount of postage to put on except the 30 gram rate. I am fairly sure that I put on $0.85 as the postage rate for Lettermail 30 grams. I just want to confirm.

I have a few permanent stamps with a P on them.  These are from last year when it was $0.61. They qualify for the $0.63 rate now in effect. Are they going to qualify as full postage for Lettermail 30 grams when the rate is $0.85?

If I am to use one of these P stamps on say Lettermail 100 grams, what value does a P have when combining with other stamps? Will it be the $0.85?

[ypdc_dennis]

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@pocomocomputing wrote:

For Lettermail 30 grams within Canada, the prices are $1.00 single stamps, $0.85 for booklet, $0.75 for metered.

What denomination of stamps do you put on a 30 gram envelope?

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You put on 85 cents worth of stamps. P's are valued at 85 cents

I have heard rumours that the $1 singles will be special stamps -- a "P1" variety.

Or some other letter, after all the last big price hike (from 17 to 30) had "A" and "B" stamps.

[mr.elmwood]

Poco, that was a heck of a good question. I would never have thought of that.

[vintagenorth]

Yes, a great question!

And, has anyone figured out yet if "metered mail" includes the metered labels that you get at the post office? Haven't found a post office employee yet that has any idea - they don't even know about the new rates. I usually go to my local PO and get labels printed so that would be cheaper for me.

I always ask for labels not stamps because AGAIN today I went to a different PO (yes, in a convenience store, had to go to town anyway) and she went to put on stamps, when I said labels please, she said no difference. Then I reminded her to remove the tax and she said "Oh, these are going to the US, that's only for overseas"! Well, she was very nice when I insisted and listened to me, redid the transaction using the computer, charged me the correct amount, and we parted smiling.

[pocomocomputing]

I have been thinking about this 30 gram rate. More as a curiosity point of view.

There are 3 ways of paying for the 30 gram Lettermail Rate.

$1.00 for single stamp purchase, $0.85 rate if I purchase a booklet of stamps and $0.75 for metered mail.

From everyone's response here, you need to put $0.85 in postage on the letter if you use stamps. Which is what I thought and it makes sense.

So in effect, a single purchase of a stamp at the post office counter will cost $1.00 or a 15 cent surcharge.

However, I can buy stamps at the post office over the counter (currently at least) in different denominations like 1,2,3 cent as well as 10 and 25 cent, maybe more, at face value. So a smart and frugal shopper will just go and buy 3 x 25 cent and a 10 cent and put on the $0.85 in postage themselves. Then place in the mail slot there and leave.

What is the purpose of the surcharge on the $1.00 rate at the counter? To pay more for single stamps and the handling?

Of course most people will not bother with beating the surcharge of 15 cents and purchase the other denominations to make the stamp rate of $0.85.

[tobyshitzu]

The rate is $1.00.  The books and coils will be marked in some way so the .85 only applies to 30gm domestic letters   If you use other stamps its $1.00, you won't be able to use the .85 discount on international to save 15%

[femmefan1946]

What is the purpose of the surcharge on the $1.00 rate at the counter? To pay more for single stamps and the handling?

Yes, it seems to be a handling charge. The person who only wants one stamps takes as much time as the person who buys a booklet or even a full sheet.

And as anyone who has ever worked retail will tell you, it is the occasional customer who takes the most time, since he doesn't know the process.

[pocomocomputing]

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@toby**bleep**zu wrote:

The rate is $1.00.  The books and coils will be marked in some way so the .85 only applies to 30gm domestic letters   If you use other stamps its $1.00, you won't be able to use the .85 discount on international to save 15%

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Your reply contradicts what post 8 by ypdc_dennis posted. Where did you get your info?

So back to the question of what amount of postage is required on a 30 gram letter when using stamps that are not "p" stamps and are smaller denominations?

I use discount postage (mint unused older stamps). Do I put on $1.00 in postage stamps or $0.85?

[dutchman48]

The postage cost will be 85¢ so you can use old stamps that total to 85¢. The $1.00 they charge people for 1 stamp has a 15¢ surcharge for only buying 1 stamp but they will still only get 85¢ worth of postage. Probably a permanent stamp so they don't know the difference.

Meter rate is not going to the post office and getting a label. It is for businesses using the post office or pitney bowes machines (or whoever makes them now).

Rumor has it that permanent stamps will be back and that they will honor previous permanent stamps that people may have from before at the 85¢ rate at the end of the month.

This is directly from my phone call to Canada Post and I lodged a complaint with them at the same time for the ridiculous increases this year and everyone else that is adversely affected should do the same thing.

Hope this helps

[pjcdn2005]

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@toby**bleep**zu wrote:

The rate is $1.00.  The books and coils will be marked in some way so the .85 only applies to 30gm domestic letters   If you use other stamps its $1.00, you won't be able to use the .85 discount on international to save 15%

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The postal outlets are not always right but I did ask at my postal outlet a while ago and just as others have replied on this post, they stated that the rate would be .85 for a 30 gram domestic letter if I put on stamps that I already had.

But are you saying is that if I bought a coil of stamps for .85, and I was sending an oversize envelope for $1.80, I couldn't use an .85 cent stamp on that envelope?

[tobyshitzu]

looks like i was wrong on that.  Thats how it had been reported at the time, clearly not how its shown on cp rate sheet

[dutchman48]

You can use whatever stamps you want to make up the required pstage

[rose-dee]

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@pocomocomputing wrote:

I have a few permanent stamps with a P on them.  These are from last year when it was $0.61. They qualify for the $0.63 rate now in effect. Are they going to qualify as full postage for Lettermail 30 grams when the rate is $0.85?

If I am to use one of these P stamps on say Lettermail 100 grams, what value does a P have when combining with other stamps? Will it be the $0.85?

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I'm assuming (I know, dangerous where CP is concerned) that CP will be good for their word -- when they brought these P stamps out, the hype was that they'd be worth whatever the current basic 30g letter mail rate was, so you'd never have to worry about rate increases. 

I too have quite a few of these P stamps around.  I guess I should have bought a LOT more of them a couple of years ago! 

I have a particularly friendly and knowledgeable clerk at my local (real) Post Office.  The next time I'm there, I'll double-check with her.  However, I'm fairly certain the "P" rate will have the value of whatever the current basic stamp value is, whether alone or combined with other stamps. 

[pocomocomputing]

So there is nothing stopping someone from buying 3 x 25 cent stamps plus 1 x 10 cent stamp over the counter and making $0.85 in postage? Bypassing the purchase of a p stamp at a $1.00.

Not that many would do this. I know I would just to protest the stupid surcharge if I was a casual user of Canada Post.

It seems like the occasional user of Canada Post gets charged more. Regular parcel users have the higher rates than expedited parcel within Canada. A two tiered system.