
10-19-2015 04:48 PM
Majority Liberal 172 seats
Do not be shy. Come along. Play the prediction game! (preferably before the results are known!)
10-22-2015 11:12 AM
I noticed a photo the other day of Trudeau walking out of the Parliament buildings and taking selfies with ordinary people. This is a great change. This is the new Canada, reclaimed from the dark days of the Harper regime. There is hope again.
Also there was an article written by Neil Macdonald who has been a correspondent for a long time. The article was entitled "Lets Give Margaret Trudeau the Respect She Deserves". A well written, honest and profound article people should look up on Google and start being proud of our legacies as a country.
10-22-2015 12:32 PM - edited 10-22-2015 12:36 PM
@prior-of-verity*shake-hands-with-your-devil wrote:
What was Harper? In reality he was a nothing, except an opportunist. From the mail room at Imperial oil (a job his father got for him) to getting a degree in economics (paid for by Imperial) but never actually practicing in the field to gain any experience.
Yes, it will be refreshing to have a leader who had to work two jobs to put himself through college (not) and had no opportunities presented to him because of his father's name and legacy. And of course his teaching credentials qualify him to be a great leader. Give me a break!!
10-22-2015 02:58 PM
Trudeau had a well educated father and mentor along with many other capable people he had associated with during life as he traveled the world and learned of different cultures and views on life. From this people learn a Vast amount of information and acceptance of others.
Then there is Harper. No association with anyone except money hungry oil execs. Prior to being elected Harper had traveled nowhere and the furthest he had ever been on the planet was Chicago for a right wing political convention. His views in life revolved around those in big business who gave him everything including his education as they groomed him hopefully for a position they could use later and the remaining formation of his beliefs is through his staunch religious views. Harper couldn't manage a one bay car wash and he only got where he ended up through opportunism and sheer unadulterated luck. He's the guy who walked into a casino and dropped a buck in a machine and won a million. Then after his election he really never achieved anything that can be designated as his idea when it came to the countries economics. He rode on the coat tails of everything previously done by other parties that had been in power. All Harper did was isolate Canada from the rest of the world.....cost us good soldiers lives.....angered our military.....took away more of our democracy....divided the country with his fear mongering.....attempted to silence our courts and our scientists.....constantly lied to the people..... and through many other of his personal ideologies he destroyed Canada's good name.
When it comes to who to believe in, I'll take a man who has traveled the world and met people and experienced life over some sponge who has made his way up the ladder by selling himself off to the rich and powerful and who has met few people who don't finish a sentence with 'eh'. I'll take a man who can travel the world on his own and who isn't afraid to roll up his sleeves and get his hands dirty over a man who needs a 'dresser' to pick out his clothes and make sure he looks good for photo ops and media questions that are scrutinized beforehand, if they even get to ask any questions at all. Harper has never been a man of the people, he has always been a man out for Harper only.
10-22-2015 06:27 PM
You know, although I've been tempted to say something for a couple of days now, I haven't until now. I have to question the judgment of a person who would use Helter Skelter as their I.D. image. If you use it only as a poster, that's one thing, but if you use it as your selling I.D., it's quite disturbing.
I was alive during the Manson era and every time I see Helter Skelter, it evokes those images. Perhaps the younger generation equates it with something else but I'm pretty darn sure that most people do not think of the Beatles White Album but the Manson murders and what he thought that term meant.
Irrelevant to this thread, I know .... call me an old fuddy duddy if you like. But I won't be returning to this thread because I don't want to look at it one more time.
10-22-2015 08:59 PM
Hmmm...I think of the 1949 British Romantic Comedy when I hear or see that term.
10-22-2015 10:46 PM
The term doesn't actually invoke any particular feelings in me so I looked it up.
Helter Skelter means mass chaos or when things are out of control, confused, etc.. It's been used many times since the 17th or 18th century and was in common use in Shakespeare’s time.
https://sesquiotic.wordpress.com/2014/04/06/helter-skelter/
More recently it has been associated with Manson or the Beatles. The face picture is from the movie V of a freedom fighter fighting against an evil gov't.
10-22-2015 11:30 PM
LOL I'm far from "the younger generation" and I lived through the Manson years. Helter Skelter is the name for a slide in an amusement park in the UK. The Beatles adopted the name for their song to associate with life and going up and down and up and down like on a slide. "When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide Where I stop and I turn and I go for a ride Till I get to the bottom and I see you again."
Sadly in life terms and even designs were changed by others (eg: the Swastika for instance). Well actually they didn't change them....people allowed them to be changed. The swastika goes back centuries long before the Nazi regime as an amusement park slide existed long before the Manson family.
However with all that said, I do have a blind stray cat I named Charlie. Manson is an interesting person to research and he represents how our society often forsakes others and how cruelty breeds even more cruelty. When you don't know your father and your mother is a prostitute and she even tries to sell you for a case of beer, how much hope is there in life for you? How do you teach a child about love and compassion when they see none? That was Manson's life.
But I digress. My signature has nothing to do with Harper and his soon to be defunct regime. He did not promote unity, he promoted division and suspicion and rejection and anger and everything else that divides people. My dislike for him is well documented in here, albeit I haven't been around for some time. I only returned for the election, the result of which I am savoring like a beautiful painting.
10-24-2015 02:22 PM
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10-24-2015 02:38 PM
Thanks for the history lesson Les but I think most will relate to this:
In 1969, the 26-year-old actress Sharon Tate, the pregnant wife of acclaimed movie director Roman Polanski (Rosemary’s Baby, Chinatown), is found murdered along with four other people at her Los Angeles home. The gruesome crime, in which the killers scrawled messages on the walls with the victims’ blood, sent Hollywood into a state of panic. The career criminal and cult leader Charles Manson and his followers, who lived together on the outskirts of L.A. in a commune where drug use and orgies were common, were later convicted for the murders.
Manson has become a criminal icon and the subject of numerous books and films, notably the bestselling 1974 true crime book Helter Skelter, co-authored by Vincent Bugliosi, the Los Angeles County assistant district attorney who successfully prosecuted Manson and his followers.
10-25-2015 03:33 PM
".....an article written by Neil Macdonald who has been a correspondent for a long time. The article was entitled "Lets Give Margaret Trudeau the Respect She Deserves". A well written, honest and profound article people should look up on Google and start being proud of our legacies as a country."
Really!!! What respect do you think she deserves?
This is a woman who left her family and went to party for a long time. A woman whose photos are still on the internet from those younger days. One photo in particular that shows her sitting with no knickers and her woo-woo in full view.
A woman whose children were raised by Mr P Trudeau and the Nanny.
She was unhappy and had issues like many of us do - does not excuse her activities.
10-25-2015 04:25 PM
From the Globe and Mail a few years ago:
Also: Changing my Mind by Margaret Trudeau; reviews:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8621593-changing-my-mind
10-27-2015 06:25 AM
As promised Justin in bed with Wynne.
Trudeau meets Wynne in premier's office
10-27-2015 08:57 AM
At least he's not in bed with Rob Ford.
10-27-2015 03:23 PM
10-27-2015 07:03 PM
Not much happening these days on the eBay boards.. I see the Town Square is still happenin'.
I see your still here Pryor... How are you... You want to argue.... Grin... Just kiddin'
Hope you are well....
Bubba.... Lol... From the Midwest...
10-27-2015 09:35 PM
Thanks for the Manson history gauge.
You should watch the 2007 movie " Across the Universe" if you haven't. It's a musical, using the Beatles music, set in the 60's and the Vietnam war. I thought it was well done.
10-28-2015 04:45 PM
"LOL you really bought into all that from the past?
That's amazing!! I was thinking you must be from Alberta and then I looked up your sales and I WAS RIGHT!!!! (am I good or what)"
No you are wrong - you are not as good as you thought.
I am from Ontario - grew up watching Margaret shame the country. Nothing amazing, not a big deal and I'm sure no one really cares but just can't see people making her into a heroine.
Yes, I now live in sunny Alberta - voted Liberal and saw the first two Liberal candidates get elected in Calgary. However, I am not a blind follower of any political party and merely hope for the best for this country.
10-28-2015 05:32 PM
The makings of a switcheroo.
10-28-2015 11:35 PM
Well I'm not a blind follower either. As a matter of fact, I'd like to see political parties outlawed. They're gangs anyhow.
When Mrs Trudeau was young and in another era, life was far more different than now. As well much of what she was claimed to have done was simple hype by the media. But what difference does it make anyhow, it was years ago. There are countless people out there, I'd guess probably 90% of the population that would never want people to know about their private lives. Alas Margaret was front and center at the time and what she did or didn't do was blown up like a neon sign. She was not ready for the position of mother and wife of a powerful man who was rarely around and when he was his attention was elsewhere. She was not ready mentally or physically or psychologically. I will not condemn her for that in any way. But in my view she far from ''''shamed'''''' the country. Who has lead a perfect life where there is nothing to keep in the closet?
But we do agree on is wanting the 'best' for this country, of course what one defines as 'best' would probably not be the same as the definition of someone else. Environment, foreign policy, immigration, First Nations justice, manufacturing, business investment, military investment, etc etc etc ..........a LOT to consider and try to keep everyone happy. Good luck with that. We'll see how Justin does, that's all any of us can do no matter who was elected. Of course with Harper we already knew what we were in store for and that's why......he's gone!
11-02-2015 04:10 PM
Albeit the election is all over and done and now we ALL have to see what the future holds.....but today I was cleaning up some files and came across this.
March 2013 there was a thread about the future election and someone asked if Harper would run, as in leave, abscond etc before the election took shape. Now it is true he didn't run before, but he sure hit the bricks right after he was defeated.
Anyhow I happen to come across a comment Valve made in that thread back way over 2 years ago...........
March 7th 2013 10:57 am
“Nope he has the Libs where he wants em! In the corner of the house where they deserve to be. Justin is just another coronation in convention disguise. Didn’t work with Iggy and it won’t work this time either.”
You all have a nice day now.