02-06-2013 02:47 PM
Anybody else get invited to this?
They deal with all customs forms, etc by shipping to a US address? Feedback is protected from low ratings etc?
What the heck are they talking about?
I said yes, and now they are going to revise all my listings. I don't understand this nebulous program. Can anybody sum it up gracefully?
Thank you!
05-05-2013 07:13 PM
i expect Pitney Bowes uses various methods and shipping companies to work with, so charges vary.
As suggested maybe import charges are folded in with shipping charges, as some of the import charges vary considerably on similar priced items.
Looking at two similar 40.00 priced GSP shirts, one from Idaho has shipping at 12.22 and import costs at 16.37. The other from Minnesota with shipping at 16.82 and import costs at 8.37.
Anyways I purchased a different non GSP listed 18.50 one with 7.50 USPS FCI charges from North Carolina. The listing read "may not ship to Canada" so when i asked the seller, he said 'no problem". I think some sellers feel comfortable shipping to Canada because it can be tracked easily, but not so easily with other international countries. Most US sellers seem fine with shipping here and doing the postage, customs form, and payment online seems quite easy and straightforward . This is the lowest i've paid for shipping USPS so he may be subsidizing it a little .
Most sellers offer return shipping and i wonder how that would work out with the GSP and having the associated costs refunded.
05-05-2013 08:42 PM
In regards to returning an item and associated GSP costs being refunded.
3. p. International Returns
........For GSP items that your Buyer returns to you, your Buyer will not be eligible for, and you will not be responsible for providing your buyer with, a refund of any Program Fees that your Buyer paid to Pitney Bowes.
http://pages.ebay.com/shipping/globalshipping/seller-tnc.html
so it seems the shipping charges from the Kentucky shipping centre and import charges would not be refunded, what a deal !
05-06-2013 12:35 AM
I am a US seller, and decided to try the Ebay Global shipper program, before I tried it I was selling most of my hockey cards to Canada. once I started the Global most of my sales now are to US residents. It does protect sellers and buyers, from sketchy people. I found out that it does charge the international buyers a bit more, and I guess it is because I have to mail my item (Gretzky Rookie card) direct to Ebays US adress, then they remove the item from the package and mail it directly to you and they make sure it has the correct adress, packaged the best etc... So it helps you and me, I was happy the old way, but there were a few people ruining it for the rest of us that take this seriously, so for the few bad apples out there they came up with this program to make it safer for us all. I am not sure if it is a good thing yet or not, but as far as safety and protection for sellers it is very good, as far as packaging and shipping correctly it is great for buyers. I personally packaged very well anyways so no change there, but ebay does take care of both you and me. I don't sell cheap cards, (no 1-5 dollar cards), for instance I sell mainly Beckett graded BGS cards that I personally opened from packs and boxes, then personally drove to Dallas and dropped off at Beckett...then pick them up a month later. So I do lots of labor to get my hockey cards protected and shipped, the global thing is just another way to make you and me do our business on high end items without feeling that one of us may get ripped off. Thanks, Brian Forsberg (Brian4z). ps I just acheived Top Rated tonight! I have been working on this for over a year and a half.
05-07-2013 04:49 AM
I am a Canadian buyer who buys daily on eBay for the past couple of years. I really hated each time the global shipping program is used for shipping, because it always ended up charging a much higher duties than if I was to pay them at the door. Also a lot of times it is difficult for the seller to adjust the shipping to combine 1 item from the global shipping program and another item that is not part of the program.
So now I make a note on which seller uses the global shipping program so that I can remember to never buy from that seller again.
05-07-2013 08:13 AM
I am a buyer in Canada. Have been in EBay for a long time, and spend good money on it. This EBay global shipping program is a money grabber big time. Shame on EBay. I am going to check the listings pretty good from now on. I just paid 17.00 charges for this scam. The product was 37.00.
I am not going to give a 5 star feedback because of this scam. Maybe is not the fault of the seller but I am being overcharged so he is the one that pays for.
05-07-2013 08:20 AM
Thank you Brian for your post #182.
Canadian buyers certainly appreciate reading from a seller why he is using the program.
And you can read from other posts why so many Canadian buyers detest the program as it leads to (unknown to the seller) extra charges at the receiving end.
While the program may have some value for the seller, it is often detrimental to the buyer.
Unfortunately, nobody wins. 😞
05-07-2013 10:42 AM
brain; I noticed that you are still using the program selectively even though your Canadian sales fell.
I can understand why some US sellers opt into it, but I've been at a loss to understand why eBay does.
Yes, eBay gets a kick back from P-B, but that wouldn't even put a dent in the loss it sees from international sales.
I don't know what percentage of eBay sales occur within US borders........... that is: American sellers selling to American buyers.
Perhaps 80%? (Just my guess.)
Maybe another 10% are US sellers selling Internationally?
I have to wonder if that 10% of sales is a percentage that eBay thinks they can safely lose or because the problems are more costly than the profits they make from those sales.
That is........... all the phone calls and time to monitor issues costs ebay more than the FVFs it gets from those sales, and so they decided to use the GSP to do away with the issues.
Ebay knows that international sales will al but disappear, but maybe they don't care that much.
Ebay is more than aware than anyone of how important shipping costs are, but yet they introduce a program that pushed shipping costs higher than ever before.
It's clear to all of us by now that ebay is about Americans selling to Americans.......... the rest of us are nice to have around but expendable.
This program attests to that.
05-07-2013 11:12 AM
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I don't know what percentage of eBay sales occur within US borders........... that is: American sellers selling to American buyers.
Perhaps 80%? (Just my guess.)"
Less then half of both ebay and paypal revenue comes from the USA, with the % from USA going to keep falling, likely at an increasingly faster rate
05-07-2013 11:28 AM
"I can understand why some US sellers opt into it, but I've been at a loss to understand why eBay does.
Yes, eBay gets a kick back from P-B, but that wouldn't even put a dent in the loss it sees from international sales.
I don't know what percentage of eBay sales occur within US borders........... that is: American sellers selling to American buyers.
Perhaps 80%? (Just my guess.)
Maybe another 10% are US sellers selling Internationally?
I have to wonder if that 10% of sales is a percentage that eBay thinks they can safely lose or because the problems are more costly than the profits they make from those sales.
That is........... all the phone calls and time to monitor issues costs ebay more than the FVFs it gets from those sales, and so they decided to use the GSP to do away with the issues.
Ebay knows that international sales will al but disappear, but maybe they don't care that much.
Ebay is more than aware than anyone of how important shipping costs are, but yet they introduce a program that pushed shipping costs higher than ever before.
It's clear to all of us by now that ebay is about Americans selling to Americans.......... the rest of us are nice to have around but expendable.
This program attests to that."
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I have been reading posts on eBay for fifteen years, on eBay.ca, eBay.com and at times from eBay.uk and other eBay international sites. I must admit I had never encountered a post so way off the mark.
Like most Canadians, I do not like eBay's GSP. I have substantial experience in importing from all over and the added costs and delays associated with that program will not attract me. And the same applies to most Canadian buyers.
However, to suggest eBay knowlingly instituted the program with the intention to reduce export sales by American sellers is... (sorry, I am at a lack of words to express my true feelings).
Brian in post 182 did a good job explaining why the GSP may be valuable to American sellers. That is exactly what eBay intended with the program. The fact it may not work as well with Canadian buyers than overseas buyers is another discussion altogether. But to suggest that GSP was a deliberate decision made by eBay to cut export sales by American sellers is... (you know...).
Yes, at this time most Canadian buyers should avoid purchasing from sellers requiring the use of GSP. But it has nothing to do with eBay's intentions as stated above.
05-07-2013 11:59 AM
"" I must admit I had never encountered a post so way off the mark."""
Thank you P*****..
Coming from you: That means a lot: :).
I'm so glad to have that distinction.
Yes, when you put if like that it does sound ridiculous.
Kudos to You!
05-07-2013 04:30 PM
Just to give you an example of how the global shipping program mischarges tariff for Canadian:
I won an item at $1.77 USD from a US seller. Shipping was $18.05, but the global charged me an additional $3.34 of "Import charges" for a $1.77 item.
But according to Canada law, any good valued at $20 or less is exempt from duties and taxes. So I am not supposed to pay tariff on an $1.77 item.
05-07-2013 07:49 PM
Bad program, buy headlight, go to kentucky and return to california, weight ou dimention too heavy. Have to automatically pay custom and slowest shipping ever. Advice to buyers, don't trade with seller who ship by Global Shipping Program!!!
05-09-2013 04:50 PM
Have sold many things large & small to Canadian & other International Buyers over the years...
However, none since the new USPS rate increases in January.
An item I was able to ship with S & H charge of under $5 is now over $15 Postage.
It's crazy !!
Now the GSP thing is out there & I'm terrified that it may become mandatory. On top of the increased USPS charges, eBay & Pitney Bowes taking a huge mark-up, & it wounds like the Buyer is not being told by eBay that the huge mark-up of costs is not being done by the Seller...
So, the Seller's DSR's take the hit for increased Shipping Cost & longer Shipping Time.
OK, now both the Buyer & the Seller suffer from GSP... what's not to love about it ?!?!?
Starting to feel like at eBay the inmates are running the asylum !!!!!
05-10-2013 10:57 AM
My advice: SCRAP THIS PROGRAM for Canada, if not BOYCOTT or CLOSE Account.
05-13-2013 12:14 PM
Are you kidding me.As a Canadian buyer from typically USA sellers I was astonished how a 15.oo first class shipping fee has turned into a 25.oo plus 4.oo customs fee on an 18.oo item.
I have bought hundreds and items over many years.99.5 % of these items never get duty placed on them and first class has always gotten me my items.
Being forced into this outrageous shipping program is ridiculous.
If USA sellers think they are opening up their market to international sales because of this program,,,think again!! I will not buy from sellers who are using this program.
I actually am considering closing my ebay account because of this.I feel royally ripped off!!! I can get most of my beading supplies directly from the sellers.
As a buyer I should have the choice as to the shipping method I prefer and to be able to take my chances with customs as well.
Poor business practices for buyers EBAY....
05-13-2013 12:16 PM
thankyou...my feeling exactly!! Canadian buyer typically buying from USA sellers feeling totally ripped off here.!
05-13-2013 12:19 PM
I will boycott and probably close my account. I certainly with not patron any USA sellers using this program.I just cancelled 2 transactions due to this.I dont do that.I have been a perfect buyer for years.Everyone will lose. I was perfectly happy without Priority Post and up front customs dues.Bad business EBAY.
05-13-2013 01:15 PM
There is something about combined shipping.
Is it correct that the GSP does NOT allow combined shipping..
Buy two items from a US seller and each item must be mailed in a separate parcel.
Is that correct?
05-13-2013 04:29 PM
I will boycott and probably close my account. I certainly with not patron any USA sellers using this program.I just cancelled 2 transactions due to this.I dont do that.I have been a perfect buyer for years.Everyone will lose. I was perfectly happy without Priority Post and up front customs dues.Bad business EBAY.
There are many U.S. sellers who do not use the gsp and of course Canadian sellers don't use it either so why not buy from those sellers rather than close your account? Don't penalize the sellers for ebay's actions.
05-13-2013 05:35 PM
cumos,
right, no combined shipping.