Comments about the Global Shipping Program

Feel free to share your thoughts about the Global Shipping Program here. 

 

A few questions to get the ball rolling:

 

  • What has worked well for you with the Global Shipping Program?
  • Any ideas to help improve the experience for Canadian buyers?
  • What has deterred you from buying items offered using the Global Shipping Program?
  • How have you managed to search for items outside the program?

Please try & keep the comments constructive 🙂

 

If you have any questions about the program, please post them here.

~Kalvin
eBay.ca Community Manager

kalvin@ebay.com

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Correct!!

 

And my point. It was NOT sent via GSP and my other point is it cost $10 LESS

 

and my last point it has taken (so far) 1 week!! LESS time.

 

They asked for constructive comments and I"m givin' them.

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@treasurechest306 wrote:

@afantiques wrote:

Also we PAY for USPS Priority via these GSP auctions however the seller is supposed to get the item to GSP within 4 days of it selling to be fully protected so of course sellers ship it USPS Priority however GSP sends it to us in Canada via the cheaper, slower, USPS Expedited...where is the justice in that?

 

GSP does not use any USPS postal services.

 


Check out this unhappy ebay buyer from Japan... see the 10:20 mark of the video.... Sure looks like  USPS box to me!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZwZgcoc_zw


no doubt it is a USPS box.. this guy makes alot of sense, he got took twice , they even put a sticker on the box saying it was crushed..

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Check out this unhappy ebay buyer from Japan... see the 10:20 mark of the video.... Sure looks like  USPS box to me!

 

There is no reason why they would completely repack an item sent to KY in a USPS flat rate box. Usual practice is a new label over the USPS one and send the carton on its way. I did look at that video but the chap wittered on so much I  gave up. He had no more idea of how to present a case with sound evidence than a chicken.

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@rick31797 wrote:

no doubt it is a USPS box.. this guy makes alot of sense, he got took twice , they even put a sticker on the box saying it was crushed..


Of course it's a USPS box.  How do you think the item reached the Global Shipping Center in Kentucky?  Fairies?

 

Did you also notice that the magenta barcode sticker on the box says "UPS"?

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  If tampering with mail once it is in secure facilities is allowed, or if ebay is doing this, then maybe its time to give Tony Merchant a call.

 

Once items arrive at Erlanger they are no longer 'in the mail' but delivered items. The reshippers are then legally responsible for the items. They would be the party responsible if someone in the facility was including illegal items in packages, not the seller or the buyer, although a close look at the buyer in those circumstances would be justified.

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@pierrelebel wrote:

" then the terms can be challenged in court of law.."

 

That is correct.  However, there is a long way from challenging terms to actually having a court of law agreeing to changing the terms.

 

Would you spend your time and money to challenge those terms?  Why?

 

I understand why many Canadian buyers do not like GSP.  I do not like GSP as currently structured.  However, I certainly would not waste my time and money complaining about every aspect of it, day in, day out.  It is much easier to simply ignore listings offering GSP and move on.

 

I honestly fail to understand posters so obsessed against GSP.  If I see a problem, I mention it, offer a workable solution and move on.

 

Life is too short to obsess about things I cannot influence.

 

 

Yes, that is good advice for Canadian buyers.  Move on... Don't buy from any sellers that use the GSP.  I did once and never again.  Easy...  Sorry to all the USA Ebay sellers that got duped into the Ebay salesmanship scam about GSP.  If this becomes too problematic for either buyers or sellers, then I think group legal action may actually happen at some time.  I don't think it is legal to slap taxes and duties onto something that is exempt (ie, < $20 or < $60 for gifts into Canada).  However, I am not that upset about it to do anything other than grype to ebay and give my two bits worth on here.

Just let the new GSP program run its course and within two years... it will either be:  revamped signifcantly; Pitney Bowes will be bankrupt;  or the program will be withdrawn completely.
Hear me now... believe me later!  
Happy New Year to all!

 

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RE toothpaste.

Let's do the math.

The $22.99USD is about  $24.13 CDN

If your toothpaste is made in the USA, it is not dutiable.

At the highest sales tax rate of 15% (NB) you would be charged $3.62.

And shipping from Kentucky to Canada including the costs of assessing the duty and tax applicable would be around $5, pretty much a fixed fee.

So the charge is legitimate.

You can compare the cost of shipping directly from your seller by First Class International, by weighing and measuring the parcel once recieved and checking the USPS.com site. You can then let your seller know that eBay does not recommend shipping with theGlobal Shipping Program on items under $50, and that FCI is now Delivery Confirmed to Canada, which is probably the reason she chose to go with the GSP in the first place.

You can also write your MP at House of Commons Ottawa ON K1A 0A6, and suggest that the import limitation for shipped goods be raised to match the cross-border shopper's limit of $200.  You don't even need to stamp the envelope, just put OHMS where the stamp should be. (It 's called Free Franking, and yes it is an MPs privilege.)

You could also avoid the whole problem by buying only two tubes at a time, thus coming in under the $20CDN limit, but this would probably be offset by higher postal charges.

 

Oh, my DD uses baking soda with a drop of peppermint oil for brushing. Personally, I think it is horrible, but it does work.

 

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@afantiques wrote:

Check out this unhappy ebay buyer from Japan... see the 10:20 mark of the video.... Sure looks like  USPS box to me!

 

There is no reason why they would completely repack an item sent to KY in a USPS flat rate box. Usual practice is a new label over the USPS one and send the carton on its way. I did look at that video but the chap wittered on so much I  gave up. He had no more idea of how to present a case with sound evidence than a chicken.


I found the guy in Japan very well spoken and made a great case, he did his research and had some great points...

besides it doesn't take a forensic specialist to see that your package has been tampered with, and packing has been removed..He lost alot of money on two circuit boards that had been damaged because of what GSP had did, to the packing, and then they get crushed.

 

He contacted the seller asking how he packed it and he confirmed it was not shipped that way.. Maybe if you watched the whole video you would have presented a better review on his video, maybe you didn't watch all the video because you didn't like what you were hearing.

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He contacted the seller asking how he packed it and he confirmed it was not shipped that way.

 

To quote the immortal Mandy Rice Davis "Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?"

 

I have no axe  to grind for the GSP which  think is a hopelessly bad idea, but a YouTube video by someone who does have an axe to grind is shaky evidence.

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@afantiques wrote:

He contacted the seller asking how he packed it and he confirmed it was not shipped that way.

 

To quote the immortal Mandy Rice Davis "Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?"

 

I have no axe  to grind for the GSP which  think is a hopelessly bad idea, but a YouTube video by someone who does have an axe to grind is shaky evidence.


there is more then one horror story about the GSP ,on u-tube all you need to do is search, but why would somebody trying to protect the integrity of the GSP bother to search and watch them, then you also have the posts here..people that have actually used it...There is plenty of evidence right in front of you.

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"there is more then one horror story about the GSP'

 

Of course there are.  Hundreds of them.

 

Just as there are hundreds of horror stories about PayPal, eBay, Amazon, General Motors, WalMart, Ford, Toyota, the church, the tax department, the government (all levels) in general, mayor Ford,  current and previous prime ministers, premiers, etc...

 

What is the point in obsessing about these GSP horror stories?

 

Will any of these posts convince anyone of something?  Of course not.  We all know the program is not working properly.

 

Those who are in a position to make a decision are aware of the problems.  What they do about it is up to them. Readers of these posts have no power to change anything.

 

 

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@pierrelebel wrote:

"there is more then one horror story about the GSP'

 

Of course there are.  Hundreds of them.

 

Just as there are hundreds of horror stories about PayPal, eBay, Amazon, General Motors, WalMart, Ford, Toyota, the church, the tax department, the government (all levels) in general, mayor Ford,  current and previous prime ministers, premiers, etc...

 

What is the point in obsessing about these GSP horror stories?

 

Will any of these posts convince anyone of something?  Of course not.  We all know the program is not working properly.

 

Those who are in a position to make a decision are aware of the problems.  What they do about it is up to them. Readers of these posts have no power to change anything.

 

 


well i  think comparing  brick and mortar stores to GSP ,is like comparing apples to oranges , Thats a bit out there.if you really think about it... there is no obsessing, just replying to your post about you seeing a part of a video,and more or less saying the guy that had problems with GSP twice is not proving his case..

 

if you would look at the whole picture instead of a piece here and there,maybe you would give  these buyers that are having problems the benefit of the doubt You are no doubt pro- GSP, even though you claim you are not, but you have never used it, there is a name for that logic, and i wont say it.. I would like you to use this service and document everything and do a review..then there would be some substance to your statements.

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"just replying to your post "

 

???

 

I never looked at the video nor did I post about it.

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@rick31797 wrote:

well i  think comparing  brick and mortar stores to GSP ,is like comparing apples to oranges , Thats a bit out there.if you really think about it... there is no obsessing, just replying to your post about you seeing a part of a video,and more or less saying the guy that had problems with GSP twice is not proving his case..

 


I don't think Pierre was "comparing brick and mortar stores to [the] GSP" but, rather, simply finding parallels on the internet.  If somebody has a gripe about something or something negative to say about it, they'll sometimes post it on the internet.  There's no real barometer of the bigger picture.

 

A video of a guy having two problems with the GSP is a video of a guy having two problems with the GSP.

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@marnotom! wrote:

@rick31797 wrote:

well i  think comparing  brick and mortar stores to GSP ,is like comparing apples to oranges , Thats a bit out there.if you really think about it... there is no obsessing, just replying to your post about you seeing a part of a video,and more or less saying the guy that had problems with GSP twice is not proving his case..

 


I don't think Pierre was "comparing brick and mortar stores to [the] GSP" but, rather, simply finding parallels on the internet.  If somebody has a gripe about something or something negative to say about it, they'll sometimes post it on the internet.  There's no real barometer of the bigger picture.

 

A video of a guy having two problems with the GSP is a video of a guy having two problems with the GSP.


Just like Pierre you don't look at the whole picture to draw a conclusion.. Why dont you add up the negative videos on u-tube, and also the people here that have had issues, you both have tunnel vision, and when you see a guy on u-tube that has had 2 issues with GSP, that's as far as you look. One guy with two problems, ya right.

 

IF the two of you had used this GSP service and had great service then what you say may have some substance to it, but you both declare to not be fans of the GSP, and then decide to challenge , what real users have said about it,these are real people with real problems. If a box gets open, there must have been a problem with the label, that is your comment, you must have a crystal ball..lol

 

 

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@rick31797 wrote:

Just like Pierre you don't look at the whole picture to draw a conclusion.. Why dont you add up the negative videos on u-tube, and also the people here that have had issues, you both have tunnel vision, and when you see a guy on u-tube that has had 2 issues with GSP, that's as far as you look. One guy with two problems, ya right.

 


There's no "whole picture" from which we can draw a conclusion.  One of the big things we regular posters on the US site's International Trading discussion board have had to deal with are sellers who read a dozen or so posts from sellers who have had problems with an international sale and come to the conclusion from those dozen or so posts that international shipping is nothing but problems so they shouldn't try it themselves.

 

Look at the PayPal discussion board.  Do you see a lot of posts from people who have used PayPal without a hitch?  No, you see mostly posts about issues or problems, yet most sellers aren't scrambling to get credit card merchant accounts to use instead of PayPal, are they?

 

Don't you see?  You're seeing the negative posts, but how representative are those posts of the bigger picture?  People don't tend to post YouTube videos or discussion board rants about how well something has worked out for them.  By drawing your conclusions solely on posts about problems, you're displaying the same mindset as those sellers reading discussion board posts about problems with international sales and basing their conclusions solely on those posts.

 

Yes, there can be problems with the GSP.  Those posts about the GSP's problems help educate us on those problems and we can hope that in time Pitney Bowes can work something out that will cut down on the number of problems with the GSP, which for all we know may make up a pretty small proportion of GSP transactions anyway.  We simply don't have the data with which to work.


@rick31797 wrote:

IF the two of you had used this GSP service and had great service then what you say may have some substance to it, but you both declare to not be fans of the GSP, and then decide to challenge , what real users have said about it,these are real people with real problems. If a box gets open, there must have been a problem with the label, that is your comment, you must have a crystal ball.


What I actually said is that if a box gets opened, it's possibly because there was not enough information in the "item specifics" portion of the listing for the Global Shipping Center employee to make a call on the item's country of origin.  I've even linked this to a Pitney Bowes page that explains the circumstances under which packages may get opened.  Have you read it yet?   I'm sure that I've never mentioned anything about labels and I have no idea where you got the impression that I did, but if you can find where I said that, feel free to link back to that quote.

 

I'm also certain that I've never denied that people have problems with the GSP.  Again, provide some evidence where I have, please.  Once again, what I'm saying is that we have no idea how representative these problems are of the bigger picture. Nothing is 100% perfect.  What we don't know is if these problems we read with the GSP are 3% or 30% of the bigger picture.

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yg001
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You guys would be surprised to know that many US sellers have no idea about the poor job and scams that involves PBI and the GSP.

 

I normally e-mail the seller of an item that interests me and it normally scares them enough to relist the items I asked about without GSP. The e-mail usually goes like this:

 

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Hi there,

If you were to modify your listing to remove the Global Shipping Program and ship yourself to Canada via USPS, I would buy it. If you're unaware of the scams going up with the Global Shipping Program, I invite you to check these videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLLrqz1Esj4 (start at 6:00 minutes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijmdVlQ36-w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZwZgcoc_zw

Thank you

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This works for me, so give it a try.

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@pierrelebel wrote:

"there is more then one horror story about the GSP'

 

Of course there are.  Hundreds of them.

 

Just as there are hundreds of horror stories about PayPal, eBay, Amazon, General Motors, WalMart, Ford, Toyota, the church, the tax department, the government (all levels) in general, mayor Ford,  current and previous prime ministers, premiers, etc...

 

What is the point in obsessing about these GSP horror stories?

 

Will any of these posts convince anyone of something?  Of course not.  We all know the program is not working properly.

 

Those who are in a position to make a decision are aware of the problems.  What they do about it is up to them. Readers of these posts have no power to change anything.

 

 


So why are you still posting then?

Are you trying to convince us and if so you "have no power to change anything". 😃

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Hello there,

 

I've lived in South Korea for over  ten years and have been an active Ebay Buyer since then, regularly purchasing things from this great site.

 

However, from a few years back, I noticed some sellers had an additional charge (aside from the Shipping FEE) called "Import Charge" which falls under the new Global Shipping Program by Ebay and Pintey Bowes.co.

 

The duty-free threshold is 150,000 Korean won (usually around $130 USD) and that includes the shipping fee..  And that's fine is the value of my order is over that amount as I very much would appreciate that GSP service. Below is official law:

 

http://www.customs.go.kr/kcshome/main/qna/QnaView.do?qnaId=QNA_ID_0000000001341&layoutMenuNo=21035&c...

 

However, as I'm increasingly noticing, items well below $150 - even items costing as little as $15 are being subject to this extra GSP charge. When I try to tell the buyer about it, they seem unaware and cannot see from their end the extra charge: 

Example, this item for $64.99 which I wanted to buy for my son, requires I spend $16.59 in Shipping Fees, plus an additional $18.80 for the Global Shipping Program:

 

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/BAD-BOY-MMA-KIDS-BOYS-BLUE-MARTIAL-ARTS-BJJ-GI-UFC-MMA-/121207378591

 

And for this simple t-shirt, for $14.95  and $21.65 for Shipping to Korea PLUS $11.39 for the GPS supposed  "Import Taxes", it becomes ridiculous

And as I said before, South Korea allows by law $150 tax free before that nonsense should apply:
http://www.customs.go.kr/kcshome/main/qna/QnaView.do?qnaId=QNA_ID_0000000001341&layoutMenuNo=21035&c...

 

As I've said, I have lived and worked in South Korea for over 10 years now and I do know the laws regarding CUSTOMS importation very well. To me, this smells of some dirty hands trying to get a piece of the pie from the unknowing people.

 

What can I do about it? Please help me out friends. It's getting to the pint where It's not worth ordering items off EBay due to that that extra change which is totally and 100% incorrect. 

 

Happy New Years BTW

 

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Your sellers can see just what you are seeing by changing the ship to location of their item to S.Korea.

 

Tell them they can do this on the Shipping and Payment page of their listing.

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