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tom_no.1 · ‎10-27-2006

Welcome to a place where Christ should be exalted and "Self" should be abased!!

Welcome to a place where the BIBLE can be discussed rationally, intelligently, and positively without unnecessary argument!!

Welcome to a place where prayer can be requested and encouraged!!

Welcome to a place where positive and encouraging thoughts from scripture can be shared in a caring and loving way!!

Welcome to a place away from all the arguments, recriminations, and negativity of the outside world!!

Welcome to a place of rest and safety!!

Welcome to a place where Philippians 2:3 is practiced: "Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves."

Welcome to this Christian thread.

(Please leave all aggression, bitterness, and philosophy outside the door and please wipe your feet before coming inside!!)

I live in my own little world. But it's OK... They know me Here!

Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. Eph.6:11.

Eph.6:10-17.

mazyvr · ‎05-03-2008

I knew you would have some links, prior ! I bookmarked them to read up later. - My mothers's family is Irish Catholic and my dad's Anglican - (Church of England.) - We were raised Anglican, was never in a catholic church until he passed away and then only for weddings and funerals. - No reason really - we all got on well !
I was really confused as to why a site would separate the 3.

Marion

survivornikki · ‎05-04-2008

Hi Marion,

Just back from vacation and I saw your post, and the answers. I only remember having to answer which particular Christian sect I was when I was going in and out of hospital stays. I think their aim was if I needed Last Rites, they would ask the priest to come. I can't remember, does the census ask?

I know many Anglicans don't think of themselves as Protestants--and now that I am attending an Anglican Church, I can see why. Some of the older people in my church will tell you that they are are not Protestant but they believe Catholics, Anglicans and Protestants--all are Christian. High Anglican to me is almost Roman Catholic. I attended a Catholic high school and many of the rituals seem the same. The main difference that I can see is that the Pope is not head of the church--but this is from an uneducated point of view (mine).

As for judging who is or is not a Christian our pastor was discussing that today.

He said to picture two Christians who disagreed about matters of faith standing with Christ in the middle, Christ holding each Christian's hand. Both Christians are trying the best that they can, and if they will just look at each other and see that they agree with what is most important, that they want a life centered in Christ, that they will see the rest is just not as important. Christ is love.

The priest also reminded us that Christ loves everyone.

Hope everyone had a lovely weekend.

mazyvr · ‎05-05-2008

Hi Nicki - hope you had a good vacation - did you go anywhere warm??? - your pastor sounds like a wise man ! The comment re High Anglican I found interesting - that was the type of service I was raised in and you're right - a lot of similarities with the catholic service - though I never really understood. I'm going to read the links that prior left - they look quite interesting- So many different sects of the Christian faith - and so much disagreement!!
Marion

survivornikki · ‎05-05-2008

We spent a couple of weeks in New York and it was not supposed to be warm--but it was warm enough. Around 80 most days. We were visiting my DD & SIL, and also celebrating my niece's graduation from American Academy of Dramatic Arts. 11 of the family flew in, and it was great to see everyone, but as my brother said, trying to get everyone to agree on where to go and at what time was like herding marbles!

But at the core of it, we were there to celebrate the graduation, it was the common goal, and as a family support the latest member venturing out in to the real world but I have to admit, I am glad she chose that fabulous city to do it in. We got to see my DD and also old friends.

survivornikki · ‎05-06-2008

I am so thankful today. My DGS's former interventionist is back working for the autism group, and chose DGS to work with for a few weeks. I know this young man is a very talented person, and the pay is not good and to establish a life for himself he won't be able to work for the organization long, but I am so thankful he is working with DGS now. DGS was so happy, so full of joy, that my tough-as-nails DD almost cried. It was so good to see that little guy so happy and it warmed my heart to have DD have a real break. As many know, this is a hard road some days.

squiddley_diddley · ‎05-07-2008

Aaaaw, I'm so happy for you & your family Nikki. It's pretty sad to realize that a talented young person like this interventionist cannot earn a decent living doing a job that he obviously enjoys and that is very good at, especially when there's such a need for those kind of skills in communities everywhere. Kinda makes you realize where our values are as a society these days .... and it's certainly not with those that need services or help to get by in life. :-(

survivornikki · ‎05-07-2008

Thanks Lucie. To be fair, the interventionist is just one of the team working with DGS, and the one with the least training, but it sure seems that he is the one who found the key to the little guy. The tough part seems to be to convince the panel of doctors and "experts" that the one who has him listening, responding and finding joy is the interventionist. We are so lucky to have him right now.

apollosplace · ‎05-07-2008

Though I wasn't raised either Catholic or Anglican but have attended both kinds of service many times they are so very much alike (can get by with knowing the responses to both). I think one of the big differences if the priest being able to marry in Anglican churches and the Anglican church leaving the Catholic church over the topic of divorce (Henry VIII if memory serves me).

Glad you had a nice break Nikki and I laughed about your herding marbles comment :)

saturday*afternoons · ‎05-07-2008

Anglicans/Episcopalians/Church of England are like Roman Catholic with similar sacramental rites, liturgies. They are like the eastern orthodox and RC churches in that they are all catholic but NOT Roman Catholic. The RC's recognise the Pope and Vatican as THE ultimate authority, the Anglicans look to the diocese and laity. Anglicans are considered protestant since "Catholic" means RC.

maybeicanok · ‎05-07-2008

Wow an expert on romans , thanks mumsie

survivornikki · ‎05-07-2008

Is that you Bob?

Saturday, the debate goes on about Anglicans and if they are Protestants.

Unfortunately, I can't copy and paste but if you go to www.reformer.org, go to their site map then scroll down to "Anglicanism: Protestant or Catholic" there is an paper from one of the conservative arms. Not sure. In the paper one of the quotes is "It may be true that Anglicans GENERALLY do not like to be called Protestants......"

When I google " Anglican CATHOLIC Church" The site I reach is the church founded by conservative anglicans in the 1970s and the Bishop is Peter Wilkenson. His flag is different from the one at our church.

When I google "Anglican Church", the Bishop is Rt. Rev. James A.J. Cowan, and the flag is one familiar to me. It has a red cross on a white background with 4 green maple leaves.

So on a quick look, it would seem there is an Anglican Catholic Church, and an Anglican Church. Apparently many Anglicans don't consider themselves either Catholic or Protestant, (no one in my Church would define themselves as either). However, if push came to shove, on a census would tick "Protestant" but they would mutter about it.:-)

maybeicanok · ‎05-07-2008

Sorry, no, Incorrect gender. Just a concerned CTS member who is tired of CTS spewing.

survivornikki · ‎05-07-2008

I must have missed the spewing. Marion asked about something that puzzled her. Posters just tried to answer her. Maybe I missed a post.

spendmama · ‎05-08-2008

Hi ((((nikki))))

From what I remember from Social Studies 20 ...

Isn't the Anglican Church originally the Church of England? The difference is only in the 'head' of the church. It was all a political move by Henry VIII. He wanted his marriage to Catherine of Aragon annulled so he could marry Anne Boleyn, pope said no. Henry fires his advisor and the new ones advised him to just split from the church and form his own, make himself the 'head' of the new church, and grant himself his annulment. Therefore, the similarities in the rites, dogma, practices, etc.

I just googled 'Church of England' and found this ...

http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/REFORM/ENGLAND.HTM

it seems things kinda went back & forth - Protestant, Catholic, back to a compromise with Calvinistic thrown in .... read on .... I'd forgotten all that.

We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.

Knowledge is not enough, we must apply; willing is not enough, we must do. - Unknown

saturday*afternoons · ‎05-08-2008

Yes survivornikki, there are Anglican churches and then there are Anglican churches. The different dioceses and synods follow orginal traditions and others are influenced by the more pentecostal or evanagelical movements. Some Anglicans say rosary, others allow women to become ordained. Some refer to the ministers as Father, others just as Minister. Some allow homosexuals as ministers, and gay marriages, others not.

Of the 3 catholic churches, only the RCs do not allow priests to marry. CofE are sort of a RC-Lite.

Another stalker survivornikki, all the same, parroting similar 'doctorines' aka carp, so to speak, of their not so esteemed leader and it's clones.

apollosplace · ‎05-08-2008

Yes that's the info I was babbling about earlier Nellie 🙂 Thanks for the historically correct version. My mind grasps concepts but not the details on various things. (history wasn't my strong suit in school)

And yes this is a polite conversation answering a question.

tough_old_bird · ‎05-08-2008

Informative reading....thanks! 🙂

squiddley_diddley · ‎05-08-2008

Yes, I enjoyed reading it too -- learned a few things I didn't know.

prior-of-verity*shake-hands-with-your-devil · ‎05-08-2008

saturday…who would this person you speak of in the last sentence of post 4397 be?

With regards to the Anglican question…..I have a call in to an Anglican minister I know and he will clarify the difference with me when he has a lunch break from the meeting he is presently in. If anyone is interested I can return and pass on his explanation, straight from the collar so to speak.