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recped · ‎11-25-2025

I came across a listing on .com from a China based seller who ships from China. It does not have a blue banner, in fact it has exactly what most Canadian sellers want (those who are shipping direct).

Looking at the same listing on .ca

Obviously they are shipping DDP to the US and DDU to Canada. My question would be why can a seller from China (shipping to the US) be able to have eBay add the tag lines of all duties/tariffs/fees are prepaid but Canadian sellers shipping DDP to the US can't. We get stuck with the blue banner of death or the slightly altered version that has been showing up on some listings (both state that buyers "WILL" have to pay tariffs).

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marnotom! · ‎11-28-2025

@lacemaker3 wrote:

eBay needs to faciliate (and require) international sellers to use DDP shipping services to the USA, becaue thatt is what the Executive Order 14324 and USCBP now require. eBay needs to be compliant with the new USA regulations.

Continuing to allow, and even facilitate, international sellers using out-dated DDU shipping services is causing a lot of unhappiness (and monetary loss) to eBay buyers on eBay.com, when they find out a few days before delivery that the courier has prepaid the duty for them as a "courtesy" (which they were warned about), and also charged a large brokerage fee, which they were not made aware of when they made the purchase.

The only "true" DDU services available to Canadian eBay sellers prior to August 2025 were those from Canada Post. A service that advances duties and tariffs due on an item to facilitate its passage through customs is not delivering the item with duties (etc.) unpaid. It's a bit of a loophole, but I don't think it would be considered a contravention of US regulations, otherwise CBP or an executive order would have put paid to this (so to speak) some time ago. This is not eBay's fight.

Yes, the repayment terms to the service can be painful, but this is nothing new. Canadian buyers have been subject to this for years, as well, since our government is still in the dark ages when it comes to the collection of sales taxes due on personal imports sent by mail or equivalent carrier. Also consider that the buyer can refuse the item or refuse to pay the charges due (depending on the manner in which the carrier collects) and that can ultimately lead to the exporter paying the carrier's charges.

marnotom! · ‎11-28-2025

@lacemaker3 wrote:

What I mean by facilitating DDP shipments, is that eBay should implement a way to collect the duty at checkout (similar to collecting VAT for UK and EU shipments), and remit it to the seller so they can use it to pay the tariffs. Once the seller has purchased a DDP shipping label, and the item has been shipped to the USA, then the duty becomes non-refundable. If the item is never shipped, then the duty would be refundable. If the item is eventually returned (exported from the USA again), or is lost after it enters the USA, then the buyer can file a drawback with USCBP to recover the cost of the duty that was paid.

eBay is already calculating how much tariff is due for eIS shipments from Canada, and GSP shipments from the UK. So they already have that algorithm written. If a listing does not have the information needed to calculate the duty in the item specifics, then it would not be available for shipping to the USA (which the GSP did for a while as they developed the algorithm to calculate the duty).

Digital marketplaces are not currently legally empowered to collect duty and tariffs on sales. Where you see this taking place on this site is with sales that have their items forwarded through eIS or the GSP, and those charges have been anonymised as "import fees" because they're an estimate calculated, charged, collected, and remitted by the carrier or agent for the carrier, not eBay itself.

marnotom! · ‎11-28-2025

@cottagewoman wrote:

CBP officers have total and complete control of every imported item. They can (and do) reclassify HTS codes. They can question and change country of origin at will. They can question every single aspect of any item entering, change it, assign any duties they see fit via any changes they decide to make. No questions asked, at the time of entry they have total and complete authority with no recourse available.

In practical terms, though, does this happen that often? Yes, there was a pretty aggressive enforcement campaign for the first month or so, but I suspect that at this point most CBP agents aren't going to scrutinize B2C shipments for anything other than flagrant violations. They probably hate the implementation of tariffs and the elimination of the de minimis even more than we do.

devon@ebay · ‎12-01-2025

@lacemaker3 wrote:

@recped wrote:

I know about SpeedPAK but at this time the same is true of anyone shipping via the postal system from any country, they are all DDP.

All sellers should be getting the same treatment if they are using the postal system regardless of their location.

With postal services, the major problem appears to be that eBay USA does not accept that international postal shipments to the USA valued up to US$800 will always be DDP. In this page, they state that "USPS will notify you by mail—you’ll pay at pickup", which is not true for items valued less than US$800.

https://pages.ebay.com/tariffs/

For packages valued more than US$800, (which were not eligible for de minimis exemption), USPS often did/does not even ask for the duty payment, although their website says they can/will collect it.

USPS does not have the resources to collect duty for all the incoming packages that are valued below US$800. The requirement for DDP shipping was the only thing that made eliminating the de minimis exemption possible in August 2025.

devon@ebay, would you please acknowledge that eBay USA is misunderstanding this situation? The page linked to above gives inaccurate information for international packages being shipped to the USA, unless the package is valued at more than US$800. Please make the appropriate team aware that they are incorrect, and they need to fix this.

eBay needs to faciliate (and require) international sellers to use DDP shipping services to the USA, becaue thatt is what the Executive Order 14324 and USCBP now require. eBay needs to be compliant with the new USA regulations.

Continuing to allow, and even facilitate, international sellers using out-dated DDU shipping services is causing a lot of unhappiness (and monetary loss) to eBay buyers on eBay.com, when they find out a few days before delivery that the courier has prepaid the duty for them as a "courtesy" (which they were warned about), and also charged a large brokerage fee, which they were not made aware of when they made the purchase.