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ypdc_dennis · ‎12-15-2017

https://www.canadapost.ca/cpo/mc/assets/pdf/business/parcelRate_2018_OoC_en.pdf

Highlights:

1. Light Packet dies. Small Packet and Tracked Packet get an additional 0-100g price range to help compensate.

2. Expedited Parcel (Canada) gets a volumetric change. Starting January 15 the divisor will be 5000 instead of 6000. This will push some parcel sizes into a higher price range. Regular parcel will remain unchanged with a 6000 divisor. So for some sizes Regular Parcel may be a better price than a discounted Expedited Parcel price.

3. Domestic prices will be up about 4% and the rest of the world up around 1.2%

4. Manual Small Packet labels will be phased out -- bar codes will be required (even if they are not tracked).

Actual 2018 parcel rates still to be released.

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More: https://www.canadapost.ca/web/en/kb/details.page?article=service_and_price_ch

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cumos55 · ‎01-17-2018

For me..... Letter post to the US .....does not include books .....Small packet is the option to use.

I have given up in trying to send books weighing less than 500 grams to the US and using letterpost.

One gets the impression that Canada Post has tightened up the rules. The rules have always been there, but only now more intensively applied.

It looks like ... loose... printed paper can be shipped using letterpost, while bound paper such as books, can not be shipped using letterpost

cumos55 · ‎01-17-2018

A customs form will be required with small packet.

mrdutch1001 · ‎01-17-2018

I have been shipping various pattern booklets & magazines that weigh less than 500g to the USA via Oversize Letter Rate for more years than I can remember and will continue to do so until told otherwise. I had also used Light Packet &/or Small Packet as necessary depending on weight and cost comparisons. With Light Packet now out of the picture, it's Letter Rate or Small Packet depending on weight and cost comparisons.

According to what I had read on the Canada Post website, envelopes,greeting cards, postcards, bills, specialty stationery,legal documents, magazines,brochures,catalogs were all eligible to be sent as Letter Mail.

reallynicestamps · ‎01-17-2018

@vintagenorthbut if I sell a pattern to a customer I have to send it by Small Packet.

Well, if you have a LOT of friends.....

USPS decide to start inspecting lettermail coming in from other countries?

They already do. I'm thinking of the anthrax scare of a few years back.

@mrdutch1001

According to what I had read on the Canada Post website,

Be careful of that past tense.

pjcdn2005 · ‎01-17-2018

@mrdutch1001 wrote:
I have been shipping various pattern booklets & magazines that weigh less than 500g to the USA via Oversize Letter Rate for more years than I can remember and will continue to do so until told otherwise. I had also used Light Packet &/or Small Packet as necessary depending on weight and cost comparisons. With Light Packet now out of the picture, it's Letter Rate or Small Packet depending on weight and cost comparisons.
According to what I had read on the Canada Post website, envelopes,greeting cards, postcards, bills, specialty stationery,legal documents, magazines,brochures,catalogs were all eligible to be sent as Letter Mail.

Where do you see that it’s ok to send any merchandise? For at least 10 years international letter post wasn’t supposed to be used for merchandise but like you, I have sent items like that in the past to the US and haven’t had a problem doing so.

pjcdn2005 · ‎01-17-2018

USPS decide to start inspecting lettermail coming in from other countries?

They already do. I'm thinking of the anthrax scare of a few years back.

US customs checks some mail but I doubt that they check for postage. I don’t know if the new UPU rules will make other countries more deligent on inbound mail.

mrdutch1001 · ‎01-17-2018

haven't got the original source but Here is the most recent reference to Letter-Post mail:

https://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/manual/PGletpost-e.asp

mrdutch1001 · ‎01-17-2018

I never made mention that "any merchandise" was acceptable. I made reference to "printed matter" material...in recent years, it became more specific to "printed matter" only.

pjcdn2005 · ‎01-17-2018

@mrdutch1001 wrote:
I never made mention that "any merchandise" was acceptable. I made reference to "printed matter" material...in recent years, it became more specific to "printed matter" only.

I think that you misunderstood what I meant. I didn't mean that you were referring to any type of merchandise. I was asking where you saw that it ever allowed merchandise such as magazines etc.

The link that you show states that goods (merchandise) is unacceptable to be sent by international letterpost. So if you were sending photographs to your Grandma then it would be considered documents and allowable. But if you sold photographs or sheet music or pamphlets or other printed goods etc on ebay they are then 'goods' so technically they were not supposed to be sent using letterpost. It was like that when I started selling but CP only seems to follow through on that if you hand the item over to someone in a po or outlet. If it's put in a mail box by the sender, it doesn't seem to get scrutinized.

I'm not defending their rules and saying that I have always followed them 100%...I'm just saying that those have been the rules for quite a while.

mrdutch1001 · ‎01-17-2018

Have never seen that Canada Post specifies in any of their guidelines that there is a difference between printed matter sent as personal mail or printed matter as a result of an online sale and for my purposes, I shall simply leave it to the discretion of those in charge and let it be. All of my mailings go through a postal outlet and have for 10+ years...

femmefan1946 · ‎01-17-2018

Have never seen that Canada Post specifies in any of their guidelines that there is a difference between printed matter sent as personal mail or printed matter as a result of an online sale

See post 111 in this thread.

mrdutch1001 · ‎01-17-2018

it's all a matter of interpretation:

any piece of written, drawn, printed or digital information, excluding objects of merchandise

I interpret that as printed matter which does not include attachments that are not printed matter.

No matter to me, I really am not going to concern myself any further with this matter as I rarely send anything outside of Canada and the USA and until such time as someone of authority tells me I am in the wrong, and am committing some sort of punishable offense, my printed matter materials will continue to be sent in same way as in the past.

katlover1952 · ‎01-18-2018

Wondering what the prices are for Europe ( pretty much U.K.,France & Germany) & Australia for small packet air. Assume the breaks in weights would be the same as USA. As they have always used 250 as the break in this (I rarely used light packet) I will have to weigh a lot of my inventory to see where it now fits. Going to be some pain getting the postage sorted out on all my listings. Expect I will have to eat some postage costs in the short run.

Does anyone have the link for small packet for outside the USA?

ypdc_dennis · ‎01-18-2018

https://www.canadapost.ca/assets/pdf/smb/2018_Parcel_PriceGuide_SFSB_level_1-en.pdf

Page 30 has the zone/rate country code. Page 31 has the Solutions for Small Business rate (this link is for level 1, under $2500 in annual shipping cost).

Shippo might still be cheaper.

Australia is zone 5.

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katlover1952 · ‎01-18-2018

Thanks so much for posting that info. I did print out a label for USA under 100 g last night via Shippo & it was $5.76! Wish we knew if Shippo was going to continue with these discounts. I am wondering what the hold up is with eBay making an announcement on this. I am relisting items & would like to know before doing any adjustments to my shipping.

ypdc_dennis · ‎01-18-2018

@katlover1952 wrote:
... I am wondering what the hold up is with eBay making an announcement on this. I am relisting items & would like to know before doing any adjustments to my shipping.

They announced the bad news a few minutes before your post

https://community.ebay.ca/t5/Announcements/Reminder-Canada-Post-rate-changes/ba-p/391965

And I just checked Shippo the extra discount for Small Packet is now gone.

Rates (Small Packet does not have a fuel surcharge):

100g - $6.84, Over-the-counter: $7.18

250g - $8.49, Over-the-counter: $8.78

500g - $11.15, Over-the-counter: $11.52

1.0kg - $16.59, Over-the-counter: $17.16

momcqueen · ‎01-18-2018

And, with that, all good things come to an end.

katlover1952 · ‎01-18-2018

Guess I was lucky to get the last one cheaper from Shippo. Bit of a pain with their new weight breaks but like everything else guess we will get used to it. Thanks for the info. I didn't have any shipments today but did read the eBay announcement after your post do had figured we were out of luck.