HS code, new forms, on a 000 bubble mailer

Serious questions.

 

I gather that light packet and small packet now require the HS forms and print out to taken to the post office, scanned, and where they give you another form to attach to the envelope for detailed information as to what is inside.

 

Is anyone concerned about telling the world what is in the envelope?

 

Where do tou put the white CN22 as well as the print out from the Post Office which is also large on say a 000 bubble mailer

 

I called the PO and they could care less, put it wherever you can was the answer I got.

 

They have no instructions or info to help so am posing here.

 

Any help would be appreciated

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@dutchman48 wrote:

Serious questions.

 

I gather that light packet and small packet now require the HS forms and print out to taken to the post office, scanned, and where they give you another form to attach to the envelope for detailed information as to what is inside.

 

Is anyone concerned about telling the world what is in the envelope?

 

Where do tou put the white CN22 as well as the print out from the Post Office which is also large on say a 000 bubble mailer

 

I called the PO and they could care less, put it wherever you can was the answer I got.

 

They have no instructions or info to help so am posing here.

 

Any help would be appreciated


Not sure what you mean about "form". I use PP shipping and no form is required. All info is printed on the label. All that shows on my labels is part of my eBay title and the HS code for "coachwork".

 

I'm with the PO, it doesn't really matter. Anything under $200 is not going to be looked at anyway.

 

I use the labelopes that I order from CP online. Any paperwork goes in there and sticks to the mailer.

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As Mr E said, you don't need to fill out anything extra in you are using Paypal shipping. That's what I use as well so I'm not that familiar with the other forms but

you referring to the form on following page? 

https://www.canadapost.ca/cpotools/apps/cdc?execution=e1s1

 

If that's not the form you mean you can probably ignore the rest of my post.

 

At the top of the page it says...

Fill out your customs information online before you go to the Post Office. No need to fill out a paper form!

No paper form so I would think that you don't need the CN22 if you fill out this one. If the PO is giving you the customs form anyway..they are probably confused.

 

Although Paypal does require the HS info for light and small packet packages...I thought that the PO only required that for expedited and tracked packet right now??

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Is anyone concerned about telling the world what is in the envelope?

 

Since we've always had to put some sort of description on international packages...no I'm not really concerned but my descriptions are fairly generic. I'm more specific on the HS codes and only the customs officers will know what they mean.

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@pjcdn2005 wrote:

As Mr E said, you don't need to fill out anything extra in you are using Paypal shipping. That's what I use as well so I'm not that familiar with the other forms but

you referring to the form on following page? 

https://www.canadapost.ca/cpotools/apps/cdc?execution=e1s1

 

If that's not the form you mean you can probably ignore the rest of my post.

 

At the top of the page it says...

Fill out your customs information online before you go to the Post Office. No need to fill out a paper form!

No paper form so I would think that you don't need the CN22 if you fill out this one. If the PO is giving you the customs form anyway..they are probably confused.

 

Although Paypal does require the HS info for light and small packet packages...I thought that the PO only required that for expedited and tracked packet right now??


That is what I have been told. Plus, again, everything is on the label when printing from Paypal Shipping.

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Right now I do not use paypal.

 

Yes, you fill out the form and take it to the PO. They scan it and it prints a form about 1/4 of a 8x11 sheet which has to be attached to the envelope/package as well as the CN22 form. That is what I was told at the post office as well as when I called them for information.

 

Both forms are required. The PO also told me no more generic descriptions as customs needs to know exactly what is inside.

 

I thought the same that the extra form defeats the purpose of the HS number unless it was because it contained over $500 in value and requires a special form. I try to support my local post office but if I have to ge through all this BS due to CP, I may use Paypal as well.

 

 

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That has all changed very recently.

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@dutchman48 wrote:

Right now I do not use paypal.

 

Yes, you fill out the form and take it to the PO. They scan it and it prints a form about 1/4 of a 8x11 sheet which has to be attached to the envelope/package as well as the CN22 form. That is what I was told at the post office as well as when I called them for information.

 

Both forms are required. The PO also told me no more generic descriptions as customs needs to know exactly what is inside.

 

I thought the same that the extra form defeats the purpose of the HS number unless it was because it contained over $500 in value and requires a special form. I try to support my local post office but if I have to ge through all this BS due to CP, I may use Paypal as well.

 

 


It is CP management. The local boys and girls are told stuff in dribs and drabs. When an initiative is rolled out, they do pilot stores and roll it out bit by bit. That is why you get different stories.

 

I am fortunate, there is only one postal outlet in Dauphin. They are busy enough and don't need or want to do niggly work that slows things down. To them, if it looks good enough to go, it does.

 

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As others have said, just ship using PayPal shipping labels.

 

I send many items via Light Packet to the U.S. Very easy to set up and print the label through PayPal. Simply put in dimensions/weight of whatever I'm sending, fill in the HS Code (I only have a few that I use regularly so I rarely have to search for the correct one), print it out, affix to package, and drop in nearest post office box.

 

They recently changed the size of the Light/Small Packet USA labels so they fit nicely on my #000 envelopes! 

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Looking at your items I would think that you would use letterpost to the U.S. and internationally rather than light packet. Then you wouldn't have to worry about any of the forms. I'm sure that many coin sellers use letterpost even if they are "supposed to" use light packet.

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More dumb questions

 

I printed a label and it does take a while to fill out. It is printed. Do you just tape it to the front of the envelope as an address label and cn22 combined with nothing else for return address of mailing address?

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I have thought about that myself but have been questioned by CP previously due to thickness of envelopes. Trade tokens are fairly thick. If you ever get caught as scans will pick these up, you will be in serious trouble with customs and postal services. Since I ship a lot, won't take the risk.

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"I gather that light packet and small packet now require the HS forms"

 

I do not know where you got that information but, at the local post office, they have printed forms clearly stating that HS code is not required for "light packet" and "small packet"

 

 

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It has been recently changed. I was told today by my post office and a supervisor at CP when I called them that it is now required. Paypal labels I found out also require them. Is it the one hand does not know what the other is doing

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Yup, exactly. It's all one one shipping label. Prints at the size of about a quarter of a standard 8 1/2 x 11" piece of paper. Simply cut it out and tape to the front of your package. That's it!

The form acts as both an address label and CN22 form combined as it has the customs information right on it. It also has your return address printed on it by default as that's already filled in by PayPal.

As for the HS Code, I don't know whether or not Pierre's comments are correct or not. All I can say is that when you go to the print the label for Light Packet it asks you to fill in the HS Code on the customs line in addition to description of item, value, weight, and country of origin. Granted, I've never tried NOT inputting the HS Code and seeing if the label printed fine, but really, its an extra two seconds to add in the HS Code so I don't see the issue.
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I ship using light pkt nearly every day. I usually just fill out my own cn22s and take to my post office with my other items to be mailed since using PayPal I would be charged the 13% tax (if under $5.00). I too, have never been asked for the HS no. for light or small packet shipments, as Pierre has mentioned. That info is not required by the post office for anything other than expedited, express and tracked (so far). I use an actual Canada Post location, not just a convenience store. The people at my PO are very knowledgeable, the Post Mistress actually trains other managers.

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Link to Canada Post Service Guide:

 

http://www.canadapost.ca/cpo/mc/assets/pdf/business/parcelserviceguide_en.pdf

 

Section 6.9 states "Customs information is required for all items shipped from Canada."

 

Eventually all classes of parcel for international destinations will require either a label such as PayPal prints, or the info printed when the Post Office scans what you filled out online.  I understood this is not required for Light & Small Packets right now.  I still mostly use the CN22 form with discount postage stamps.  I add the HS code and country of origin to this, and nothing is required for scanning at my local Post Office.  Perhaps the OPs Post Office has been chosen to roll this in for Small & Light Packets.

 

If you use PayPal shipping, that label is the only thing you need on your envelope.  Get a Venture One card online at the Canada Post site, and order "Labelopes" for free online, they will be delivered through Canada Post.  Put your shipping label into the labelope and affix that to your envelope.  I also order free "Airmail" labels, and add them to my Light Packet envelopes, since the label for that does not specify Air service.  Suggested by my local Postmistress, so it does not get put into the Small Packets surface service internationally, or surface lettermail to US.

 

I did test omitting the HS Code on PayPal labels when they first added it, they will not print without completing this.

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Pierre, it is clearly show that you are not using PayPal Shipping.  HSC is required on all package even on light packet, small packet air to USA and International countries all the time.  It is prefilled (I have to type HSC #) and it is prefilled (typed) onto the shipping label via PayPal. 

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Canada Post does NOT require HS code on light packet and small packet

 

Pitney Bowes, managing the purchase of postage on eBay paid through PayPal, does.

 

It does not make it a postal requirement except for those wishing to buy their postage through PayPal.

 

There is a difference

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Paypal require HS Tariff Code on all packages now, can't print labels without it 😞

most of the time I go with just 000000 since CP do not care

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