PROTEST!!!!!!!!! Kill paypal

[luckylegend]

Ok my previous post was very popular and because my sale was 450+ 60 shipping i paid about 20$ to paypal

How can i bypass paypal??? Do i have to open a buisiness with my bank? Then pay them monthly and declare my revenu for tax purposes?
What if i sell my geandmas old panties ?
Somebody who managed to remove paypal to not pay fees,?

Thx

[hlmacdon]

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@luckylegend wrote:
I sm not sure I get why I can’t just direct all payments to my account without it passing through paypal.

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Ebay makes money off of processing payments (since ebay and paypal split ebay wants to introduce their own partnered processor as soon as their contract allows) moving forwards. A marketplace will have contracts in place with a given payment processor that dictate what competing payment options will be available. Essentially nobody wants to give you a platform that brings customers to you without getting a cut. Forms of payment where you can minimize that cut or come close to eliminating it are not at all attractive for consumers. Crypto currency ecommerce sites haven't lit the world on fire for example. A payment processor in the middle brings trust to the equation which brings customers to the table. 

[luckylegend]

I was under the impression that some sellers operated on ebay without a paypal account. I guess I was wrong

[hlmacdon]

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@luckylegend wrote:
I was under the impression that some sellers operated on ebay without a paypal account. I guess I was wrong

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Some sellers are enrolled in managed payments, which is eBay's in house payment processing program with their partner Ayden. Fortunately that abomination hasn't been dumped on Canada yet. Previously sellers could have merchant accounts to process credit cards, this was mostly a concession to attract larger brick and mortar chains that preferred to leverage their lower rates. Those of us that have been around since the earliest days of Ebay may (fondly or in some cases perhaps not) remember other alternate payment methods. All you need to know if there is any form of activity it is going to be monetized moving forwards. Growth here is pretty much dead in ecommerce terms so the only option is to try to figure out how to pull more dollars from the same sales.

[zee-chan-jpn-books]

$20 fee for a $510 payment is not bad at all. Please don't use the word "protest" on something as minor as PayPal fee please.

Just go read the need news and check out the Hong Kong protests right now.

[Anonymous]

PayPal is ideal for those who don't have credit cards.  It works fine for me.

[luckylegend]

Wait aren’t these protests over now? Some people just got paid to keep going I guess
20$ is a lot considering you have to pay ebay comission on 510$ too

[luckylegend]

Yes for sure
I assumed paypal could send direct payments to the bank instead of another paypal
I don’t care how the buyer pays (credit card, paypal...) at all as long as it doesn’t go to my paypal

[femmefan1946]

Wait aren’t these protests over now? Some people just got paid to keep going I guess

The Hong Kong protest continue.

The HK police have killed at least two of the protestors, and several protestors have died from "falls" and "suicide".

There have been a few thousand other less lethal casualties.

I'd like to meet the guy who can pay a million HongKongers to fill the streets as protests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Hong_Kong_protests#Deaths

[zee-chan-jpn-books]

Someone clearly has been living under a rock, be it Paypal fees, credit card fees, or world news. By not using PayPal, you're going to lose a lot of buyers.

The protests have been escalating every week. I can't believe that someone living in Canada would actually believe that protesters are paid to protest... multiple people have been shot (all in their teens and 20's), numerous suspicious deaths, sexually harassment, rapes... Over 5000 rounds of tear gas canisters were fired, with people showing signs of poisoning that could lead to cancer and birth defects if they decide to have children later... and you are saying they were getting paid to be hurt and killed?!

[pjcdn2005]

They can't list if they don't accept Paypal so they would lose all ebay buyers.

Some people don't seem to have a lot of empathy for those that aren't as lucky as we are.

[luckylegend]

I haven’t lived in Canada my whole life. I know what misery is and I’ve been to war zones.

Ok thanks for the info

[luckylegend]

in no way **bleep**, murder or violence is good.
But people there are a bit weird, I have seen videos of people giving birth on the street and also throwing babies on the floor because they are angry at traffic. They have a different reality and sometimes money makes people to crazy things.
Look at all the factories with crazy suicide rates? You think they want that life? Ofc not. But it’s their only hope, otherwise they wouldn’t do it.
Anyways ebay is not to discuss politics. And discussion will not change the world.
I am sure you know about this matter more than me. And with more people like you that go and help where protests happen, rather than sit and talk is what we need.

Anyways, I got my answers. Thanks everybody

[zee-chan-jpn-books]

"But people there are a bit weird, I have seen videos of people giving birth on the street and also throwing babies on the floor because they are angry at traffic. They have a different reality and sometimes money makes people to crazy things.
Look at all the factories with crazy suicide rates?"

Whoa, so you're just going to leave behind all these propaganda with no source and then tell others don't discuss politics? You must be living in an alternate reality... please provide a creditable source for all of the above that you're claiming to be happening in Hong Kong.

I don't intend to stretch politics here either, but I'm not going to keep quiet after reading what you just wrote there.

[kh-leslie]

Hello everyone,

Since this thread has gotten a bit off-topic, please bring the discussion back to payment methods. I also want to remind everyone that off-topic discussion is allowed on the Canada Town Square board, however conversation should remain respectful, free of racism, and of course should avoid any false information.

Thanks!

[raincoastwoman]

I have in the past purchased items with a money order. I was informed by most sellers that it's not a form of payment they like...I was told "use paypal".

[femmefan1946]

Most sellers liked money orders, especially postal ones, which can be cashed immediately at the post office counter.

But, private ones had to be deposited like a personal cheque, there were some problems with counterfeits, and there was a huge problem with fake emails from Western Union telling the seller to ship because the MO was on its way.

That was when Billpoint and eventually Paypal came in, around 2003-2005.

Eventually, because with a money order the buyer could not electronically prove payment, eBay decided not to allow MOs, personal cheques or cash  payments, except for face to face /local pickup.  Even there some sellers want PP and others say it's required.

Basically, PP is free to the buyer (the seller has fees) and protects her against false claims of non-payment.

That it anonymizes credit card information is a bonus.