So when do the Canada tariffs take effect?

[sin-n-dex]

I was reading in this forum March 1, but on the National last night they said the aluminum and steel tariffs take place on March 4, which is the same date as blanket tariffs for all Canadian goods (what it was pushed back to).

Knowing the date tariffs might start is an important piece of information for me to put my store on holidays in time and get all packages shipped while I still can.

Anyone have confirmation on this?

C.

[marnotom!]

Two online news pieces I checked (one from the BBC, the other from the CBC) give a date of March 12.

[recped]

The way I see it is that the tariffs on everything from Canada are history and replaced by specific tariffs on Aluminum and Steel.

US Companies will be screaming at DC over that because it's going to cost US companies a lot of money because they, for aluminum at least have essentially no other options other than Canada to get the materials needed for beer and soda cans.

80% of all the Aluminum produced in North America comes from Canada, Internationally Canada is the number 1 exporter of raw aluminum in the world.

[flipistics]

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@recped wrote:

The way I see it is that the tariffs on everything from Canada are history and replaced by specific tariffs on Aluminum and Steel.

US Companies will be screaming at DC over that because it's going to cost US companies a lot of money because they, for aluminum at least have essentially no other options other than Canada to get the materials needed for beer and soda cans.

80% of all the Aluminum produced in North America comes from Canada, Internationally Canada is the number 1 exporter of raw aluminum in the world.

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What I suspect will happen is in March he'll restore the full 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico but leave the de mimimis in place. Once he finishes setting up the new government agency to handle tariffs, he'll then eliminate the de minimis.  He's hell bent on tariffs. I don't think it matters who is against it.  I think the only reason he backed down the first time was because they couldn't handle the collection yet.

[ricarmic]

Well I see the latest is that they're stacked so for steel for example it would be 50% tariff now..... on March 12th, it seems the steel and aluminum are to start the 12th on top of the other 25% on the 4th.

[marnotom!]

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@ricarmic wrote:

Well I see the latest is that they're stacked so for steel for example it would be 50% tariff now..... on March 12th, it seems the steel and aluminum are to start the 12th on top of the other 25% on the 4th.

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I’m of the mind that he’s either already forgotten about the March 4th tariffs or else he’s hoping that everyone else will have forgotten about them.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Vpj9Eybsahk

[sin-n-dex]

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@recped wrote:

The way I see it is that the tariffs on everything from Canada are history and replaced by specific tariffs on Aluminum and Steel.

US Companies will be screaming at DC over that because it's going to cost US companies a lot of money because they, for aluminum at least have essentially no other options other than Canada to get the materials needed for beer and soda cans.

80% of all the Aluminum produced in North America comes from Canada, Internationally Canada is the number 1 exporter of raw aluminum in the world.

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That would be good, but we have no certainty on what's going to happen (even if we can take some educated guesses). In the US forum a poster told me they didn't think tariffs would last if they went into place (for the inbound shipments) because there were no measures in place to process all those dutied packages (like what happened when they did tariffs for Chinese goods).

I could wait closer to go on time away, I'm currently scheduled for Feb 25 because I thought tariffs might start March 1 and I wanted a few days to wrap up orders and shipping before I start having problems again like last week. Last week was only not a disaster because on Friday the tariffs were postponed on China and then all my packages made it across the border. Had this gone on for a while I don't know my customers would have been patient with this for very long.

C.

[sin-n-dex]

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@flipistics wrote:

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@recped wrote:

The way I see it is that the tariffs on everything from Canada are history and replaced by specific tariffs on Aluminum and Steel.

US Companies will be screaming at DC over that because it's going to cost US companies a lot of money because they, for aluminum at least have essentially no other options other than Canada to get the materials needed for beer and soda cans.

80% of all the Aluminum produced in North America comes from Canada, Internationally Canada is the number 1 exporter of raw aluminum in the world.

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What I suspect will happen is in March he'll restore the full 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico but leave the de mimimis in place. Once he finishes setting up the new government agency to handle tariffs, he'll then eliminate the de minimis.  He's hell bent on tariffs. I don't think it matters who is against it.  I think the only reason he backed down the first time was because they couldn't handle the collection yet.

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That's one of my theories. If de minimis stays, most of us will be OK. In my previous post where I said "that would be good" I meant that would be good if the blanket tariffs were history. I'm presuming the steel and aluminum tariffs will last for a little while and then be cancelled like in his last term.

C.

[sin-n-dex]

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@ricarmic wrote:

Well I see the latest is that they're stacked so for steel for example it would be 50% tariff now..... on March 12th, it seems the steel and aluminum are to start the 12th on top of the other 25% on the 4th.

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They're stacking them? That's very bold.

The National said the blanket tariffs were scheduled to start March 4 and the Steel and Aluminum tariffs were also planned for March 4. There seems to be lots of uncertainty (and FWIW, I don't trust anything Trump says).

C.

[ricarmic]

The stacking was a breaking topic on CBC news tonight..... assuming both happen and nothing else happens in the meantime, things are changing every day. I did see both Mar 4 and Mar 12 for the steel and aluminum so that's perhaps up in the air (but what's not anymore?)

I have a suspicion that the "real" and longer term problem for us isn't what actually happens tariff wise, but even if there are never any tariffs (which I doubt) that there's no way to know what's going to happen in the next while to 4 years so the uncertainty will on it's own provoke big businesses to "nationalize" on their own to avoid the uncertainty. I'm hearing this between the words of the Canadian spokespeople from across the country on the news over the last few days.....

On the silver lining side, it might just finally provoke us to deal with our inter provincial boundaries/barriers/taxes/problems and sell our "own" stuff to "ourselves" moreso....

[sin-n-dex]

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@ricarmic wrote:

The stacking was a breaking topic on CBC news tonight..... assuming both happen and nothing else happens in the meantime, things are changing every day. I did see both Mar 4 and Mar 12 for the steel and aluminum so that's perhaps up in the air (but what's not anymore?)

I have a suspicion that the "real" and longer term problem for us isn't what actually happens tariff wise, but even if there are never any tariffs (which I doubt) that there's no way to know what's going to happen in the next while to 4 years so the uncertainty will on it's own provoke big businesses to "nationalize" on their own to avoid the uncertainty. I'm hearing this between the words of the Canadian spokespeople from across the country on the news over the last few days.....

On the silver lining side, it might just finally provoke us to deal with our inter provincial boundaries/barriers/taxes/problems and sell our "own" stuff to "ourselves" moreso....

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I'm watching CBC The National right now, and they're talking about stacking tariffs on steel and aluminum.

With tariffs coming and going, I'm going to be taking stuff down from my store, then putting it back up, then taking other stuff down. I have better things to do with my time than respond to these whims. I could just take my store down and stop selling, but I don't see why I should have to do that. I've been selling items to the US just fine for the past 12 years, but the current US president is intent on ruining that for all of us Canadian sellers on eBay.

C.