Used Cell Phones and eBay Policy

kxeron
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Hi,

 

I have been in some thought after seeing many posts about locked phones, stolen phones, and phones under contract considering eBay's non-protection toward bad transfers of contracts/etc

 

It is my belief that phones bound to a a provider or under contract should be banned from sale on eBay as a contract or service is not a tangible item as according to their approach to software licensing and the contracts therein and thus cannot be transferred via an eBay transaction. Selling a phone based on a brand name (AT&T, Verizon, Bell Mobility, Telus, etc) is indeed an influence on most phone purchases and thus to remove the possibility of that impact, those names should not be included on listings.

 

If someone wants to sell a used phone on eBay, it should be required that the phone be factory reset, unlocked, without contract, without a connected provider and listings should not contain service provider names. Only the hardware should be sellable. With this in mind, SIMs should not be permitted to be sold on eBay — even if included on phones as well as they are tied to a service and services are not allowed to be sold as they are not tangible.

 

This would also help eliminate low-hanging fruit of stolen phones as it'd require more effort than steal phone, wipe it and list it which would set the bar higher than the common criminal.

 

If eBay wants to indicate that transfers of software licenses may not be "insured" under the buyer protection, so should cell service/contracts/SIMs and thus should be unbound from the phones. The buyer can go to their local provider storefront and obtain a SIM and a contract of their own.

 

ALTERNATELY, if it's a flipphone without a SIM slot and all phones of that model are bound to a provider, the listing should indicate that the listing isn't protected under buyer protection as to warn buyers that the purchase is caveat emptor and that eBay can't help them get the phone unlocked nor re-assigned nor a refund for issues with the provider accepting the phone.

 

In summary: If eBay cannot provide protection and doesn't actually prohibit the listing of such, the listing should have to state expressly in bold print "This purchase may not be protected by eBay buyer protection because it contains X". This can potentially apply to used computers with pre-installed software mentioned as well.

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There are always buyers looking for a "crazy" or whatever you want to call it deals on ebay.  Any buyer considering buying a used phone is looking for trouble and then will be posting here with the problems.  We've seen it all before.

 

I think for ebay to have some kind of policy on this would be extremely time consuming and even then, some would get through.

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Lord knows we don't want any more policies.

 

The feckless lose money, it's what they do.

 

The higher you make the safety fence the more of a challenge it is to some idiot to walk along the top of it.

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@2011limey1 wrote:

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I think for ebay to have some kind of policy on this would be extremely time consuming and even then, some would get through.


If eBay does not have resources to correctly police cell phones (including having protections so that buyers are receiving a legitimate unit and taking appropreate action when something goes wrong such as the phone getting bricked for being stolen — it isn't the buyer's fault that they received stolen property, it's just a bit more obvious often that a phone is stolen.), then eBay should post a dlsclaimer on potentially all phone listings across the site regardless of seller reputation OR block sales of used phones all together.

 

This disclaimer should be to the effect of "eBay cannot verify and protect sales on cell phones due to the nature of these devices and the fact they are often tied to a service. Be sure you absolutely trust this seller before continuing as eBay buyer protection does not cover malfunctions or service issues of cell phones beyond delivery of the device."

 

But clearly with all of the strikes handed out every day, they do have the resources to do as my original point suggests, they're just not being correctly applied.

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This disclaimer should be to the effect of "eBay cannot verify and protect sales on cell phones due to the nature of these devices and the fact they are often tied to a service. Be sure you absolutely trust this seller before continuing as eBay buyer protection does not cover malfunctions or service issues of cell phones beyond delivery of the device."

 

Like every other warning, your target reader will  have skipped this after a few words, since finishing it would have used up all their weekly reading quota.

 

You are a submarine immersed in the reality of the world addressing stones skimming over the surface.

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