11-13-2023 01:08 PM
To anyone who has recently read over the the new TOS for Canada, did you spot how it relates/connects to AI going forward? Reading legal gobbly yada yada tends to cause my eyes to gloss over...quickly.
The changes include:
9 & 15 may be worth a gander.
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Portion of 15:
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-Lotz
Disclaimer: When it doubt best to review entire TOS from time to time.
11-13-2023 01:40 PM - edited 11-13-2023 01:41 PM
When the day comes(and that could be sooner than we think) when eBay starts inserting videos into all sellers' listings, takes over sellers' own listing descriptions with the use of AI, and in general takes possession and controls(manipulates) all sellers' listings thusly rendering said listings are our own in name only, then it shall be time to end any connection I have to eBay...but in the meantime I shall continue my limited selling existance on this site as per the requirements set out in the terms of use.
11-13-2023 01:49 PM
@mrdutch1001 wrote:When the day comes(and that could be sooner than we think) when eBay starts inserting videos into all sellers' listings, takes over sellers' own listing descriptions with the use of AI, and in general takes possession and controls(manipulates) all sellers' listings thusly rendering said listings are our own in name only, then it shall be time to end any connection I have to eBay...but in the meantime I shall continue my limited selling existance on this site as per the requirements set out in the terms of use.
When eBay starts and I believe it may already be taking place adding AI to listing descriptions, those listings should include a disclaimer acknowledging. It's bad enough when eBay reconfigures item specifics after the fact but to have them (%$#@) with correctly created listings is extremely dangerous. I have extreme concerns about the validity of anything connected to AI going forward. Only reason I mentioned was it was in the coles notes version of the email.
-Lotz
11-13-2023 05:14 PM
I have doubts that some of these would hold up (actually, I'm not sure some of them are legal at all), but this one is especially concerning given the fact they STILL haven't fixed the **bleep** customs forms:
11-13-2023 06:07 PM
This update portrays eBay.CA as the site it truly is and for what it is> unprofessional, irresponsible, with the glaring motto: "we could care less about our sellers", ......so USERS BEWARE!
11-13-2023 07:24 PM
AI is only mentioned twice in the revised agreement and both are just stock disclaimers.
The rest of it is Meh!
All that stuff in red in your post, none of that looks new to me or am I missing something?
11-13-2023 08:59 PM
Tried an AI description today. It just repeated what I had already said in Title and Item Specifics but with more words.
My own descriptions, to be fair, are rarely much more, but they can be clarifications of some Item Specifics-- like a set with Very Fine centering (an exact description in Stamps) on most of a set but one or two are only Fine to Very Fine (which lowers the value).
I'll stick to my own including the HTML coding that I hope makes the description stand out.
11-15-2023 02:03 AM
@mrdutch1001 wrote:This update portrays eBay.CA as the site it truly is and for what it is> unprofessional, irresponsible, with the glaring motto: "we could care less about our sellers", ......so USERS BEWARE!
In what way does it portray this? Be specific if you can.