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skylarstuff · ‎07-02-2016

Canada Post extremely disappointed with CUPW’s response to its offers

Dear Canada Post customer,

I am writing to update you on our negotiations and advise you that there can be no legal work disruption before the expiry of a 72-hour notice, and one has yet to be filed.

On Saturday, June 25, 2016, we tabled offers in our separate negotiations with the Canadian Union of Postal Workers (CUPW-Urban and CUPW-RSMC), which represent our delivery agents and plant employees. Our offers were designed to help bring a quick resolution to the negotiations and end the uncertainty that is negatively impacting our customers and our employees. Our offers included modest and manageable wage increases for all employees and no changes to the pension for all employees in the plan.

As you can read in our public statement, we are extremely disappointed with the response from CUPW. Late Friday evening, CUPW tabled offers that would add at least $1 billion in new costs over the term of a new collective agreement while rejecting the Corporation’s approach to address the long-term issues with the employee pension plan.

Rather than saddle customers with more than $1 billion in new costs, Canada Post continues to remain at the table to negotiate an agreement that is reasonable and affordable. In the event of a full disruption, Canada Post will not operate, deliver or accept new items. We will keep you updated on our progress.

Thank you for your business and your continued patience.

Sincerely,

Serge Pitre
Vice-president, Sales
Canada Post Corporation

dutchman48 · ‎07-29-2016

Do they also want CP to pay for the buses?

dutchman48 · ‎07-29-2016

Maybe we should give every employee in Canada what CP employees have already and is asking for so the gov't and Canada will be bankrupt in no time!

dutchman48 · ‎07-29-2016

my cheer for the rally is cry me a river, boo hoo, because I can't post how I really feel on these boards!

dutchman48 · ‎07-29-2016

Since the Union is too cowardly to strike, CP needs to lock them out and let the chips fall where they may, as this garbage from the Union has to stop for the sake of the public.

cumos55 · ‎07-29-2016

It is one thing to ask for it.... and... it is another thing to get it.

CPC Is in control of the money and will decide how to spend it.

Let us wait...and... see..... The next two weeks will be most interesting

marnotom! · ‎07-29-2016

@cumos55 wrote:

CUPW puts over many requests.... but does not put over any money.

How different would CUPW be if they were responsible with an input of money... .

CPC Has the money and the plans to reorganize itself .......as CPC sees fit.

That's strange rhetoric. You do realize that any money "put over" by CUPW would ultimately be traced back to Canada Post itself, right?

CUPW has made a few suggestions to Canada Post as to how it can increase its revenues. CPC has turned those suggestions down as it sees fit, as you say.

marnotom! · ‎07-29-2016

@dutchman48 wrote:

Maybe we should give every employee in Canada what CP employees have already and is asking for so the gov't and Canada will be bankrupt in no time!

Employers always play the "it's too expensive" card during negotiations. Strange how many of these benefits that were seen as "too expensive" decades ago are now standard employment conditions. If they were "too expensive" how are businesses still able to operate today?

momcqueen · ‎07-29-2016

@cumos55 wrote:
Rally for pensions, pay equity and sustainable public services

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Friday July 29 2016

Media Advisory

MONTRÉAL - Canada Post is not taking key negotiations issues seriously. CUPW is calling on the Liberal government to use its considerable influence to ensure, as its shareholder, that Canada Post is onside with the federal government’s objectives to improve pensions, pay equity and the public postal service.

Who: Canadian Union of Postal Workers and friends

What: Rally for pensions, pay equity and sustainable public services

When: Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 1pm EST

Where: Montreal at the Prime Minister’s constituency office

There will be a march from Parc Saint-Alphonse (corner of Émile-Journault Ave and Chateaubriand Ave.) to Justin Trudeau’s office at 529 Jarry Street East, Suite 302

Buses will depart from Ottawa and Quebec (details to follow)

Why: Instead of negotiating with postal workers and using their experience to improve the post office, Canada Post is dragging its heels and sticking to their Conservative-era agenda. It’s time to ask the Prime Minister to tell Canada Post to start negotiating now.

I almost did a spit-take when I read this. What part of the federal government's earlier offer to assist with Binding Arbitration was unclear?

dutchman48 · ‎07-29-2016

Yada, yada, yada and more yada

dutchman48 · ‎07-29-2016

Lets play at some economics, which even you can understand.

Wages go up by union demands, as well as benefits.

What do you think happens? Tough question?

Well lets see, could companies raise prices that consumers have to pay for their products, well, I think maybe

So the end user pays for the increased wages and benefits well, maybe yes!

So union employees get stupid raises, benefits (in a declining economy no less) and the general consumer has to pay to support the greedy few, well, maybe!!

So the more greedy they get, the more prices go up until many consumers can't afford to buy the product, company has fewer sales, income goes down, but they still have to pay the stupid union wages and benefits, company eventually can't survive, goes broke and all the stupid union employees are out of work. Short term greed for long term loss.

Then a nice entrepreneur starts up again without union to deal with, and life goes on.

So everyone loses because of union greed and hopefully the new entrepreneur will survive, at least until another union is formed

cumos55 · ‎07-29-2016

We are seeing one side of this negotiation on a daily. basis

Canada Post stays relatively quiet.

dutchman48 · ‎07-29-2016

I am glad CP stays quiet and I really wish the CUPW would quit all this political hogwash.

Sit at the table, negotiate, and if nothing materializes, strike or get locked out. This ridiculous non anything except postings by CUPW accomplishes nothing.

Doing a rally is not negotiating.

momcqueen · ‎07-29-2016

No, but it is bolstering the troops, and demonstrating unions exist to hold rallies et cetera.

cumos55 · ‎07-29-2016

The most important thing for each of us to do is follow what is happening....day-by-day

Wait until the 30 days are up.... at about August 10... and then we can have a full discussion of what has happened

Let us learn... and above all... wait... wait.. wait....

Watch what CUPW says... and does ... keep track of anything CPC says and does.

and then the Government of Canada.........

Will Trudeau be there in Montreal for CUPW's rally?....Most likely not, as the Government will choose not to get involved until after August 10.

It is my understanding that this 30 day period is a reality for a special reason.... only then will everything get sorted out very quickly,

A government review of Canada Post is in progress..... Could this 30 day negotiation period be a part of that review?

marnotom! · ‎07-29-2016

@dutchman48 wrote:

Lets play at some economics, which even you can understand.

Wages go up by union demands, as well as benefits.

What do you think happens? Tough question?

Well lets see, could companies raise prices that consumers have to pay for their products, well, I think maybe

So the end user pays for the increased wages and benefits well, maybe yes!

So union employees get stupid raises, benefits (in a declining economy no less) and the general consumer has to pay to support the greedy few, well, maybe!!

So the more greedy they get, the more prices go up until many consumers can't afford to buy the product, company has fewer sales, income goes down, but they still have to pay the stupid union wages and benefits, company eventually can't survive, goes broke and all the stupid union employees are out of work. Short term greed for long term loss.

Not quite true. Most companies worth their salt that are faced with increased costs deal with them with a combination of judicious cost-cutting and increasing revenues from existing or new sources. Chopra only seems to be interested in cutting services to Canadians, not finding new streams of revenue for CPC. Not surprising given that he's a Harper appointee and Harper was and is likely still interested in seeing Canada Post starved and privatized over the long term.

Also keep in mind that employees that are fairly recompensed tend to be more productive, and that improves the company's bottom line as well.

We're all shareholders in Canada Post. As a shareholder, are you interested in seeing your investment go down the tubes because a management team doesn't want to be innovative?