Justin praises Fidel

gauge33
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Justin Trudeau has made Canada a laughing stock.

His gushing, fanboy reaction to Fidel Castro’s death is embarrassing.

The facts are clear to everyone but Trudeau: Castro was a murderous communist who massacred thousands. He had people shot, murdered his enemies, and oppressed his people. His violent communist regime plunged Cuba into poverty and despair.

So why is Justin Trudeau praising Castro's legacy?

Trudeau said: "While a controversial figure, both Mr. Castro's supporters and detractors recognized his tremendous dedication and love for the Cuban people who had a deep and lasting affection for "el Comandante".

Can you believe that? “Controversial figure”? “El Comandante”?

The international community has been quick to condemn Trudeau’s ridiculous remarks.

With one stupid statement, Trudeau has lost all credibility on the subject of human rights. And worse, now the world is laughing at Canada.

There is only one way for Justin to undo the damage he has caused. He must boycott the Castro funeral.

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He must boycott the Castro funeral.


I don't think the Prime Minister reads our boards. He won't see your direction. 

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CSIS does so be careful what you say! Justin is seeing it in spades in the media and from leaders around the world.

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I am 100 per cent certain that CSIS doesn't give a hoot about this thread unless, for some reason, they are watching you

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They work on tips.

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gauge33
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What a contrast to Justin's comments proving again, "not ready for prime time". 

 

https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/photos/a.184044921335.134777.15704546335/10154829260811336/?type=3&...

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You're not seriously citing Fox News as a credible source, are you? I'm not even going to click that link.
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Here is the same thing MJW from our trusted CBC.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-obama-castro-1.3869414

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Have you traveled to Cuba?
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No, have you?

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Yes.
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@gauge33 wrote:

Here is the same thing MJW from our trusted CBC.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-obama-castro-1.3869414


This piece really isn't much more than a re-hashing of CNN reporting, certainly not a thoughtful and critical analysis. 

 

What Justin Trudeau said was accurate, even if it didn't go far enough for right-wing capitalists in criticizing Castro.  The Cuban people did have a deep and lasting affection for Castro, and they did refer to him as "el Commandante".  

 

You might recall that Pierre Trudeau attracted just as much, if not more, criticism for his détente approach to Cuba and Castro.  Yet I think he, unlike the Americans, realized it was better to have a friendly relationship with a communist neighbour than an antagonistic one.  There are always possibilities open as long as nations are talking to, and not at, each other.  The elder Trudeau also recognized the value of socialism and national sovereignty and so probably had sympathy with a leader who had broken from the American yoke and was attempting to create a social order that was fair to all its people, as flawed as his dictatorship may have been.

 

Thousands of Canadians over the decades have benefited from Pierre Trudeau's rapprochement with Cuba, as no doubt have many Cubans from all the winter vacationers from Canada.  

 

Certainly part of the Cuban people's affection for Castro was for the wrong reasons (if you're old enough to remember the Bay of Pigs, you'll know what I'm referring to), and part was for the right reasons (egalitarianism, universal health care and education, national coherence without U.S. control).  

 

Cuba was a cesspool of every imaginable corruption and pillage by U.S. mobs and unrestricted capitalists in the 1950's and prior, and the vast majority of Cuban people were the unfortunate victims, effectively enslaved in their own country by outsiders.  They certainly didn't share in the booty.  American companies and interests treated Cuba as a sort of restraint-free playground for their own benefit, to be plundered at will.  In many respects Americans did to Cuba what the Belgians did to the Congo.  People have now forgotten about that ugly story and why it led directly to Castro's revolution.  

 

I'm not dismissing the horrible acts committed by the Castro regime, but we should remember that many of the 'dissidents' were people who were allied to U.S. interests and wanted nothing more or less than Castro's murder.  Were Castros acts worse than what the Americans did?  That really is a matter of viewpoint, and whether you're a Cuban who is thankful for a man who created a nation, or an American ex-pat Cuban republican who thinks someone like Donald Trump is better and would like to see Cuba opened up again to U.S. robber-barons.   

 

If we think being Canadian is like sleeping with the U.S. elephant (as Pierre Trudeau used to say), imagine being a small island just off the coast of the U.S. trying to maintain national identity.  Justin Trudeau in his statement was reflecting the fact that Cuban nationals who remained on the island see Castro as a hero and are mourning the end of an era.  I think he may also have been sending a signal to Cuba that Canada intends to maintain its friendly relationship with the island.  Many Cuban nationals must deeply fear what will come next from an America with Trump as President.  

 

 

 

 

 

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Good post.. Pierre thumbed his nose at Nixon and the Americans when he visited Fidel...showed them that we wern't any lapdogs. I just hope that when Donnie comes to visit Justin doesn't wilt. His father knew how to deal with right wing American presidents...

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I was there a few years ago.  We went on a tour and one of the places they took us was to a store where Cubans received their monthly rations of milk, flour and other staples...it was a very dark and dingy store.  Apparently they have to import everything there, even milk so there can be shortages  of even the basic products.  

 

It it hasn't been that long since Cubans started being allowed to own property or even have their own business.  I'm not certain but I believe that started after Castro stepped down.   My impression was that regardless of health care or education, the majority of them had a subsistence lifestyle.  

 

It it is a pretty country with great weather, lots of history and awesome cars but I wouldn't want to have grown up there.

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We shouldn't be encouraging gauge, or any of his other IDs. He simply needs the attention, don't give it to him.

 

People should be looking at what the USA did to Cuba and why the revolution started. A dictator named Batista ran the country at the behest of the USA and he was in bed and in bank with US corporations and the mafia. The Cuban people owned little to nothing in their own country. So Castro was the answer and instead of the USA supporting him (of course they couldn't because that would have meant betraying their friends in big business and the mafia) his only support came from the USSR.

Once again the history is a long story of one country sticking their noses and injustices into the lives of people in another region. It all boils down to greed and power and that is the darkness in the human DNA.

I admired Castro to some degree. The US tried everything to destroy him and they lost.....he won.....which just goes to show no matter how big a country you may be......it means nothing when people are determined to win.





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Fidel Castro’s greatest atrocities and crimes

 

Ever wondered what’s so bad about Fidel Castro? You’re not alone, many people simply don’t know much about him other than things they’ve heard like that he’s implemented top notch healthcare and education systems in the lowly third world country of Cuba. That’s because for the most part the international media has neglected their duty to report the truth about the dictatorship that lies 90 miles from American shores.

The pages linked below seek to correct that and educate you about the real Fidel Castro, a murderous dictator who has remained in power for 53 years and counting. Think about that, even if he was a “good dictator” could you imagine living under the rule of the same man for 53 years? So here’s the list, click the links to see a write-up about each item with links to references and source materials.

Introduction -Fidel Castro’s greatest atrocities and crimes
1. Fidel Castro’s firing squads in Cuba
2. Fidel Castro sank the 13 de Marzo tugboat killing Cuban women and children
3. Fidel Castro’s shoot down of American civilian aircraft killing 4 people including 3 American citize...
4. Fidel Castro’s Cuban political prisoners
5. Fidel Castro’s Cuban forced labor camps, the UMAPs
6. Fidel Castro’s religious repression against Cubans
7. Fidel Castro separates Cuban families
8. Fidel Castro restricts the movement of Cubans
9. Fidel Castro’s foreign interventions resulting in thousands of deaths
10. Fidel Castro’s espionage

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Never believe everything you read on the Internet.

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