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tch_ca · ‎08-16-2015

Here is how you opt out of the GSP. http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/shipping-globally.html#opt_out

I along with many of buyers will no longer support ANY seller using the program. It is a complete ripoff.

pjcdn2005 · ‎08-16-2015

Those are instructions for U.S. sellers opting out of the gsp so you might want to post that on the .com sellers board. I doubt that there are any U.S. sellers who read the Canadian discussion boards.

mr.elmwood · ‎08-16-2015

Post all ya want, most American sellers do not even know they are in the GSP. Maybe, if yer lucky, .0001% of US sellers will see your post.

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rose-dee · ‎08-16-2015

@tch_ca wrote:
Here is how you opt out of the GSP. http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/shipping-globally.html#opt_out

I along with many of buyers will no longer support ANY seller using the program. It is a complete ripoff.

Actually, I'm very glad you posted that link. There have been quite a number of times when I've wanted to buy an item shown as GSP from a U.S. seller, the seller was willing to use normal U.S.P.S. shipping but had no idea how to get out of the GSP cage.

I recall one transaction in particular where the poor seller had no idea what GSP was or why he was stuck in it, and after trying to explain it to him by messaging, we ended up on the phone. Ultimately, he was just so perplexed that I dropped the whole idea and paid the extra shipping charge. I actually felt sorry for him, as he clearly wanted to try and make the sale happen and was being very patient, if totally confused.

I'm going to bookmark that link and the next time I need to politely explain to an American seller how to accommodate me, I'll just send it over. Thank you!

One P.S. though -- Keep in mind that the GSP is really only a rip-off for items under a certain value. Although that value keeps shifting because Canadians get off scot-free for most things under $100.00, strictly speaking any item purchased from the U.S. over $20 should be taxed by CBSA.

So GSP is really not a problem if you're buying something from a U.S. seller for somewhere around $150 or more, because CBSA will certainly ding you at the border for GST/HST on an item of that value, plus Canada Post will ding you for another ca. $9.95 to collect it. (And some days -- or some CBSA agents -- will ding you for a lot less than $150.00, just the luck of the draw mostly).

rose-dee · ‎08-17-2015

@tch_ca wrote:

I along with many of buyers will no longer support ANY seller using the program. It is a complete ripoff.

I wanted to add a couple of things:

1) You are aware that only U.S. sellers can opt into the GSP?

2) Many U.S. sellers have complained bitterly about the rather confusing way eBay opted them into the programme in the first place. To say you will no longer support ANY seller using the programme is to say you're punishing U.S. sellers for something eBay led them into more or less unwittingly.

I think you'll find that if you really want to buy something from a U.S. GSP seller and you contact them first (that is, before you actually process the transaction) and ask if they can change the listing to standard USPS shipping, you might find many will accommodate you if they can. Now that you have the link for opting out, you can do as I suggested above, and send it along with your message (or at least direct them to it).

tch_ca · ‎08-19-2015

That's not correct dee. There are now a few world wide sites that can use GSP. UK being one. I buy and sell on Ebay world wide through numerous sites and accounts. I certainly know how to get around the program with buyers but that's not the point. The point is to get rid of the program as it stands.

Here is an example....An envelope sized item out of the UK sold for approx $350.00 (CDN) The combination of taxes handling and shipping for this item would have been around $98.00 CDN. Tracked shipping from the UK to Canada is around $17.00 CDN for an envelope. Taxes to Ontario are at 13% which equals 45.50. Maybe another $10 for processing. Where did the rest go? Poof?

Elmwood, you're right about this particular post BUT seeing your responses over the years I'm beginning to think you're on Ebay payroll. Just about every piece of advice you provide is either negative, defeatist or to roll over and play dead for Ebay.

pierrelebel · ‎08-19-2015

"An envelope sized item out of the UK sold for approx $350.00 (CDN)"

Impossible to comment without knowledge of the item. Was it dutiable?

rose-dee · ‎08-19-2015

@tch_ca wrote:
"That's not correct dee. There are now a few world wide sites that can use GSP."

Yes, of course, you're absolutely right. I tend to think only in terms of the U.S. GSP because we generally see comments only by Canadians buying from the U.S. on this subject. What I meant was that between the U.S. and Canada, the GSP is only available to American sellers (as I'm sure you know).

"Here is an example....An envelope sized item out of the UK sold for approx $350.00 (CDN) The combination of taxes handling and shipping for this item would have been around $98.00 CDN. Tracked shipping from the UK to Canada is around $17.00 CDN for an envelope. Taxes to Ontario are at 13% which equals 45.50. Maybe another $10 for processing. Where did the rest go? Poof?"

What was the item? As Pierre mentioned, if it was a dutiable article, that could add very substantially to the GSP charges from the U.K. I really don't know what the allowable import value is from the U.K. for personal use, nor what the duty rates are, but the ceiling could be quite low. In that case, the GSP would probably not be much worse than the usual shipping by Royal Mail. I do know from my buyers in the U.K. that their level is ridiculously low -- something like $20 US, which makes purchasing from North America out of the question for many.

You could check the duty status and charges on the CBSA website prior to making any commitment.

pjcdn2005 · ‎08-19-2015

I really don't know what the allowable import value is from the U.K. for personal use,

The import limit doesn't vary by country. It is still $20 when you import by mail.

pierrelebel · ‎08-19-2015

For postal import information, please visit this webpage maintained by the Government of Canada:

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/import/postal-postale/duty-droits-eng.html

caye-seba · ‎09-03-2015

Be careful opting out of the GSP program. I'm a canadian who buy a lot from us sellers. Most use the GSP program.

One time one seller tried to opt-out for me and i was no longer able to bid on his iteams because ebay said he would not ship to Canada.

There's already not a lot of sellers who want to ship to Canada. Yes is it a rip-off and there is no discount son ebay. I pay more buing on the internet that i would buying locally offline. However i buy things i can't find anywhere else. Old discontinued Glade air freshner smells. discontinued Gillette shampoo. Old axe bodyspray. Out-of-print music not even available on itunes. Magic tricks, and many other hard to find stuff.

I could live without all this stuff but it's just a treat for me

rose-dee · ‎09-03-2015

@caye-seba wrote:
Be careful opting out of the GSP program. I'm a canadian who buy a lot from us sellers. Most use the GSP program.

One time one seller tried to opt-out for me and i was no longer able to bid on his iteams because ebay said he would not ship to Canada.

I suspect that seller didn't understand how to properly set up his shipping options to allow shipping to Canada. I don't think it was eBay's fault. If a seller opts out of GSP for a particular item, they will also need to show a specific shipping cost to Canada and include Canada in their "ship to" destinations on the selling form.

This is probably more than many U.S. sellers can figure out if they haven't been on eBay long enough to have sold to Canada before the GSP was implemented.