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01-31-2013 03:56 PM
http://en.rsf.org/spip.php?page=classement&id_rubrique=1054
Interesting: Namibia, Ghana
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01-31-2013 10:29 PM
You're right, it's interesting. Tragic, but interesting.
One thing that stands out for me is just how far down the list the U.S. is.
Yet, Canada is to all appearances miles behind the U.S. in several categories, especially in terms of concentration of media ownership and stuff like failure to reflect a cross-section of views in Canadian society, as evidenced by overt support of Conservative politics by 95% of our newspapers and most of the other media.
Maybe "reporters without borders" need to venture a little more diligently into Canadian spin-space...
The response to your thread says a lot though. People just don't see a need to care about this stuff. Then they wonder how it is that dictators and the ilk get into power and seize control. Apathy....
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02-01-2013 03:49 PM
When people have had freedom for some time, they don't value it as high as those who fought and bled for it. It's amazing, I am immigrant from former communist country and sometimes it amazes me that people born in democracies sometimes want to establish similar concepts we painfully escaped.
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02-01-2013 09:14 PM
When people have had freedom for some time, they don't value
You are correct.
I am amazed at where the U.S. is on the list. This is a country where there is so much media, it is nuts. CNN seems to think they are entitled to know everything. They get all bent out of shape when someone (usually a high ranking govt. official) refuses to call them back when they demand it. People have a right to know a lot. We have a right to know we are not neing lied to (Freedom Of Information Act).
Yet, there is some sensitive information that should not be shared. When Prince Harry went to Afghanistan for his first tour of duty, the press was outraged that it was kept secret. Would they rather have splashed it all over the front pages and made Harry a bigger target? CNN and other reporters were "embedded " with troops in Afghanistan. They were alowed this privilege based on an understanding that some information had to be kept secret. None of the reporters refused to go or complained about their freedom being limited. They knew that information was sensitive and, if the wrong info got out, U.S. troops might die as a result.
There are some things that are important to know now - and some we shouldn't know until later. If this is deemed to be limiting the freedom of the press, too bad.
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02-02-2013 01:54 PM
Puck has a point. But, IMO this point is overdone by a factor of at least x1000 in comparison to the amount of information that is stifled, subverted or misrepresented.
Meanwhile we have people working in highly sensitive areas, with access to apparently unlimited state and security secrets, not only of Canada but our allies as well, and these people are able to walk out with these secrets and sell to international rivals...
Meanwhile, school boards and city councils across the country hold day-to-day meetings behind closed doors and Harper has locked out the media from anything at all related to the federal government.
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02-02-2013 03:07 PM
and Harper has locked out the media from anything at all related to the federal government.
I read somewhere government is allowed to delay media release of sensitive issues for max 90 days or so.
Some of the reason Reporters Without Borders feel Canada belongs on 20th position are here: http://en.rsf.org/canada.html
Costa Rica (#18) seems like a nice place to retire to for Canadians. Estonia (#11) really turned around economically and yet managed to get #11 in press freedom index. Maybe Mr. Harper should take some private lessons from Mr. Ansip.
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02-02-2013 04:42 PM
Puck has a point. But, IMO this point is overdone by a factor of at least x1000 in comparison to the amount of information that is stifled, subverted or misrepresented.
Yes. And, we are both engaging in speculation - with no facts to back us up. Just expressing opinions.
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02-02-2013 06:32 PM
Actually I'm not sure what you think is just speculation or an opinion, Puck. Most if not all of what I said on this thread is common knowledge.
There are hundreds if not thousands of instances of Harper muzzling anyone he has any dealings at all with - that you can google to your heart's content. I'll just pull one up for you...
Canadian government is 'muzzling its scientists'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16861468
As for school districts and city councils, I have personal experience as well as readily available references on the internet you could refer to. Probably even worse is the gag order mentality that goes on in corporations. i.e. - during the contaminated beef situation XL Foods did the worst possible job of communicating anything with anyone. They didn't say a thing for days - it was pathetic.
It's so ironic that "transparency" is such a buzz word. The minute I hear that word I go looking immediately for what's being hidden and covered up!
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02-02-2013 06:55 PM
An example from yesterday (Canadian Press)
"...Harper made the announcement with Marois, whom he met with privately afterward. They held separate news conferences, however, because Marois wouldn't agree on the prime minister's more tightly controlled conditions for holding a media event...."
