12-17-2013 04:47 AM
Long story short, i went to ship some items to my local post office. Im shipping non-paper products using regular stamps and sized at over-sized mail envelopes. i was going to ship to the USA and in the past affixed a green CN 22 form. I asked the CS over the counter if i can have any - they said they discontinued it.
Im using stamps and over-sized envelopes to mail non-paper products to avoid having to use the 'tracked packet' which does the same thing but im just paying a fraction of the price.
My question is - what are sellers currently using as an alternative as the customs declaration CN 22 forms have been discontinued ?
12-17-2013 08:07 AM
I still use CN22 as per Canada Post:
http://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/manual/PGcustoms-e.asp#1382681
12-17-2013 08:38 AM
I use light packet and print my label from paypal.
12-17-2013 10:20 AM - edited 12-17-2013 10:22 AM
Green CN22 form was discontinued and replaced with new white CN22 form. This form is labelled Small Packet but is used for Canada Post Small Packet service and Light Packet service. You should be using the Light Packet service for Lettermail sized items (under 2 cm thick and under 500 grams) that are goods sold.
Here is an image of the old green CN22 form
The new CN22 form is larger and has more to fill out
12-17-2013 10:36 AM
12-17-2013 01:50 PM
If your local PO staff are supportive, they can still get them. Ask them with their next order to order the inventory number on the bottom left corner. They should get them.
12-17-2013 03:01 PM
For years and years local outlets have told me these green CN 22's were discontinued but each time if I called Canada Post supplies office for businesses I have been able to order them.
It has been a couple of years since my last order as I got 5,000 the last time. Even 10 years ago it was hard to get more than a handful from a postal outlet, they are very limited in what they can order as it's not something most postal outlets use very often these days.
When I called I always had to explain why I needed them (printed matter sent O/S LetterPost)
Perhaps they are actually discontinued, I don't know.
Of course you can "roll your own" if you like and they don't have to be green, when my current supply runs (probably late in 2014) I'll probably make up an integrated one more like the current white Small Packet version that has both the customs part and the recipient/return address.
12-17-2013 03:11 PM
As Poco mentions, the purpose of letterpost USA is for documents that aren't sold 'goods'. Light packet is supposed to be used otherwise. However, I am sure that many people do use letterpost for goods and haven't had a problem doing that. But I don't know if those people actually used a customs form or sent it without one.
For Tom....just so you don't have to say it 🙂 ...I agree that it is crazy that there is such a thing as light packet rather than using lettermail/post for small items.
12-17-2013 04:37 PM
PJ,
It's kind of you to think of me but I don't mind in the least repeating - for the umpteenth time - that Light Packet is a crock and nothing more than a money grab by Canada Post.
On the subject of LP, CP has not yet announced the 2014 rates. I phoned D.J. (one of my contacts) at CP and was told he hoped to have them by the end of this week. I said I hoped those rates would be correct, as last year the rates originally published (and he was given) turned out to be wrong and there was an unholy schmozzle at CP straightening them out.
I'm curious to see the LP rates and how they compare with Letter-post rates, which are going up substantially on March 31. As you know, there's a wide gulf between LP and Letter-post rates for mail pieces weighing between 200 g and 250 g (so that, paradoxically, it's much cheaper to send such a piece as an LP). I wouldn't be surprised if this gulf will widen. It's all **bleep**-eyed.....there I go again, sorry!
Tom
02-04-2014 01:50 PM
One would think that Canada Post could figure out how to put a simple fillable pdf C22 on their website, or the variations thereof, like USPS has.
Apparently not.