08-21-2013 07:30 AM
By now we are all aware of the federal government policy inviting US giant Verizon to obtain a lion share of the Canadian telecom market at bargain prices at the expense of Canadian owned companies BCE, Telus and Rogers currently dominating the market.
BCE (Bell) has been very vocal on the subject: http://web.tmxmoney.com/article.php?newsid=61797553&qm_symbol=BCE
How do Canadians feel about the federal government policy?
Valve - You being retired from Bell and getting your pension cheques from them every month and your dividend cheques every three months, how does it feel to send $10 monthly to the Conservative Party ?
Now, most Canadians with a cellphone feel they pay too much and hope American competition will help reduce the monthly charge.
Reality check: a recent study commissioned by the Conservative federal government through Industry Canada and CRTC found:
For a plan including 450 incoming and outgoing minutes, voice mail and call display and 300 text messages per month, the cost was $44.86 in Canada. A similar plan in the U.S. cost $76.14 and $38.85 in Britain after adjusting for currency and the relative purchasing power of the Canadian dollar.
A plan including 1,200 incoming and outgoing minutes, 300 text messages and one gigabyte of data usage per month was $93.59 in Canada, $145.79 in the U.S. and $63.52 in Britain after currency adjustments.
08-22-2013 10:00 PM
"What did you do before cell phone technology?"
I do not know. I do not have a cellphone (yet). This thread has nothing to do with using or paying for a cellphone.
What do you think of the government policies?
08-22-2013 10:02 PM
"According to the 2010 article"
That is the problem. Forget three years ago. The federal government is CHANGING THE RULES, this year.
08-23-2013 12:02 AM - edited 08-23-2013 12:02 AM
@prior-of-verity*shake-hands-with-your-devil wrote:
Has this poll also been reported by a news source that's not owned by Bell Media?
08-23-2013 07:33 PM
it saddens me to see that people are using this board as a Canadian political chat board when it is supposed to be about ebay topics
A place that people go to find Ebay answers.
Shouldnt you people be on the Globe and Mail message board or something?
08-23-2013 09:04 PM
Hi Ammolitehunter,
There are numerous boards for the type of thing you are talking about. Buying, selling, paypal, etc. etc... Also, dozens of U.S. boards for more specific discussions.
As the name kind of suggests, Canada Town Square is for general conversation and socializing. Mind you it used to be way more active before Facebook :). And the explanation I'm giving you used to be written somewhere on the board landing page...
But you are welcome to post questions here as well - there are a few nice folks around who will usually answer a question.
don't be sad!
08-24-2013 01:34 AM
08-24-2013 08:33 AM
"I think the potential preferential treatment being available to Verizon is kinda beside the point and insignificant."
– A clear majority of Canadians (81%) preferred that neither foreign nor Canadian‐owned telecommunications companies are favoured in the upcoming government auction of the airwaves used by wireless phone companies according to the results of a survey conducted by Nanos Research
Full details of the survey (2,000 Canadians) are available at: http://www.nanosresearch.com/library/polls/POLNAT-W12-T582E.pdf
When I first read the results of the Nanos survey I had two reactions:
1) pleased to see that the vast majority (81%) of Canadians had a similar opinions - nothing to do with political orientation. Too often we see opinions being a reflection of what a party leader stated. Not in this case. That felt good.
2) surprised that as many as 19% would feel differently.
Your posts confirm that yes some Canadians are willing to give American companies preferential treatment.
And life does go on.
08-24-2013 08:36 AM
"I say, let them come. If Verizon hikes the prices to the sky, at least we will live healthier. If they scare big 3 into pricing wars, that works well too."
I have no problem having Verizon come into Canada and compete with the three large Canadian telecom companies - competition is good - with two conditions:
1 - They be given the same treatment - not preferential treatment as proposed by the federal government
2 - Canadian companies be offered to same opportunities to enter the huge American market on the same conditions. That is called reciprocity.
08-24-2013 11:35 AM
The one thing I find fascinating on the subject is the fact the Conservatives portray their policy as "defending the interest of the consumers" while the NDP is defending the interest of three large Canadian corporations.
It is the world upside down. We expect the Conservatives to promote businesses and the NDP to promote the consumers.
08-24-2013 02:01 PM
You have it wrong Pierre.
The NDP are only interested in union jobs and not the consumer
The business that the conservatives promote benefit the consumers.
08-24-2013 03:53 PM
@ilurkthereforiam wrote:
The NDP are only interested in union jobs and not the consumer
The business that the conservatives promote benefit the consumers.
Unionized workers are consumers as well, and a well-treated workforce benefits the economy as a whole.
08-24-2013 04:28 PM
Unionized workers are consumers as well, and a well-treated workforce benefits the economy as a whole.
You don't need unions to convince employers to treat their employees well.
I appreciate what unions have done in the past.
The labour movement forced governments to legislate labour laws that provided safe and fair working conditions.
That was a long time ago.
The unions are almost useless now and are slowly losing membership.
Every time they try and force their will in the private sector.
Factories close and head south of the border.
08-24-2013 04:43 PM
"Factories close and head south of the border."
In the context of this thread, you are now closing factories, you are simply losing Canadian jobs (unionized or not) and replacing them by American jobs. You are also taking taxable profits by Canadian corporations and sending them to the USA.
08-24-2013 05:26 PM - edited 08-24-2013 05:28 PM
@ilurkthereforiam wrote:You don't need unions to convince employers to treat their employees well.
I appreciate what unions have done in the past.
The labour movement forced governments to legislate labour laws that provided safe and fair working conditions.
That was a long time ago.
The unions are almost useless now and are slowly losing membership.
Every time they try and force their will in the private sector.
Factories close and head south of the border.
True, there are some companies out there that will treat unorganized employees well, but most of them won't employ the policies, checks and balances necessary to forge good employer-employee relationships out of their own volition.
Many employers don't want to have these systems in place, believing it's too much "bother" or that they'll lose "flexibility", meaning that they can't give preferential treatment or show favouritism towards particular employees or suddenly decide to outsource the majority of their operations. A certain process has to be followed instead.
That's why some employers relocate to where people are so desparate for a job that they'll put up with injust hiring and working conditions.
Employee pay and benefits tend to be secondary considerations.
08-27-2013 02:24 PM
"Practically speaking, allowing external-to-Canada companies to bid for and buy a Canadian carrier with greater than 10 per cent national market share is an impossibility," said telecommunications analyst Iain Grant of the Seabord Group.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2013/08/26/telecoms-foreign-ownership-reaction.html