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We all know how long the negotiations with CP have been going on - month and months.  But I really got ticked off the other day.  I had ordered something from the U.K. before all this broohaa, or, as I always keep my eyes on the news, thought everything would be o.k.

The last day for delivery was shown as Sept. 2 and I sent a very polite note to the seller saying that the tracking order had been stuck on nearly delivered for ages.  I also let them know, if they didn't already, about CP here if they had other Cdn. Sellers,

 

In this apartment, a long time ago they put a CP box in the lobby which is great - in that if there's a parcel delivered, they leave a key in your mail box showing which of the boxes it's in, complete with a key to open it,  Much better than the old way of leaving a note telling you which P.O. to pick it up,  It even has a box you can deposit mail to be picked up without going out to mail

 

The other day I was in all day and the phone rang twice (it's set for four rings before answering machine picks up),  When it rang, knowing I was waiting for this shipment, I literally dashed to the phone and picked up on the 2nd ring.  Nothing,  I could tell the call came from the front door,  Sure enough received a note to pick it up at a P.O. yesterday and am going today,  To me the P.O. carrier was just too LAZY to wait for another ring or leave a key in my box.  End of rant,

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Read the news article I posted if you cannot accept taking our words for it. I'm sorry to be the person to tell you this, but your assertions are incorrect in this arena.
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@mjwl2006 wrote:

The system of mail and parcel delivery changed Between seven and five years ago. 


That would correspond to when the new Winnipeg mail sorting facility opened.

http://www.waa.ca/blog/post/622/canada-post-opens-new-state-of-the-art-mail-processing-plant


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. . . it's possible you just have not noticed they do things differently now. It was a big deal, this change, at the time.


The biggest change we Vancouver Islanders have noticed is that all letter mail is now taken off the island to be processed, even stuff that's addressed to someone in the same locality.  Parcels are still processed just outside Victoria, though, which means that parcel delivery times within the island are really quick, while letters can sometimes take a week or more.

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"Neal said Canada Post is spending about $1.9 billion across the country to implement the changes, which are being phased in and should be complete by the summer of 2011."
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Last I checked, Vancouver Island was still considered part of Canada. Again, you don't have to take my word for it. You can also consult an atlas.
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@mjwl2006 wrote:

Read the news article I posted if you cannot accept taking our words for it. I'm sorry to be the person to tell you this, but your assertions are incorrect in this arena.


I know what I'm seeing at my front door, though.  The people who deliver my parcels are not the ones who deliver my letters.  Don't ask me how or why that is.  It just is.

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Maybe time stood still on the West Coast then.
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It's different everywhere else.
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Use "mjwl's" box size as an example.....

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I think we're going to all have to agree to disagree. Apparently, the new mail delivery system hasn't yet migrated to Vancouver Island where they're still doing it inefficiently until further notice.
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@mjwl2006 wrote:

I think we're going to all have to agree to disagree. Apparently, the new mail delivery system hasn't yet migrated to Vancouver Island where they're still doing it inefficiently until further notice.


I don't think it's necessarily inefficient, at least within town limits here.  Since this town's streets are sort of on a grid system, somebody doing a route completely on foot can cover a fair bit of territory pretty quickly, rather than someone who has a vehicle to stop and start every few houses.

This isn't a big town, either.  Probably fewer than 20K residents within the town itself.  The parcel volume is such that probably one or two contractors can cover the day's deliveries in a pretty timely fashion.

I suspect somebody's done an analysis and figured out that for delivery in my town, at least, separating the two streams makes more sense.

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I think more to the point is that we do not know what region of Canada that the Original Poster lives in so you cannot assume they, like you, are also located the last place in Canada to get benefit of the new, more efficient system of delivering the mail where every letter carrier is given a cargo van and their own route to deliver lettermail and parcels alike. 

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@mjwl2006 wrote:

I think more to the point is that we do not know what region of Canada that the Original Poster lives in so you cannot assume they, like you, are also located the last place in Canada to get benefit of the new, more efficient system of delivering the mail where every letter carrier is given a cargo van and their own route to deliver lettermail and parcels alike. 


Point taken, but you also have to acknowledge that a news piece from 2010 that refers to future plans is not necessarily a statement about how things are in 2016.  Those plans to be implemented by 2011 may have gone awry or they may have ended up being slower to phase in than anticipated.


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That's true. I will make a point of clarifying how the rollout went to date the next time I speak to someone from CPC, and report back. 

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This page from the Canada Post website might shed a little light on how this changeover is progressing:

https://www.canadapost.ca/web/en/kb/details.page?article=new_model_for_delive&cattype=kb&cat=receivi...

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We have community mailboxes and when they did have separate parcel/mail we would get parcels delivered right to the house but now they are either put in our box or they leave a note to pick it up at the postal outlet.  I didn't know why it had changed but now it make sense.

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@marnotom! wrote:

This page from the Canada Post website might shed a little light on how this changeover is progressing:

https://www.canadapost.ca/web/en/kb/details.page?article=new_model_for_delive&cattype=kb&cat=receivi...


The changes to service in Port Moody seem to have had an unintended consequence.

http://www.cknw.com/2015/11/28/por/

The comments section following the article is a useful read.

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Here in Victoria (Oak Bay)  we get lettermail, including some small packages, delivered by the carrier, Marc. But a woman with a truck delivers the larger parcels.

We get a lot of signature mail as well as parcels, so I've got to know them.

While our postal walk is mostly houses, Marc also does the apartment buildings across the street.

 

The presence of apartments, with their tiny mailboxes, might make a difference to the efficiency of trucking compared to walking delivery.

 

Suburban lots are 35 feet wide or more. Block after block.

While downtown homes tend to have narrower lots (we had one townhouse that was 17feet wide) and more of them.  And of course, apartments, even low rise ones like my neighbourhood. A truck would not be efficient for city delivery.

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By the looks of things, the adoption of the new mail delivery system has not gone well in one Port Moody neighbourhood.

Google canada post gatensbury.  The CKNW news piece is the best, IMO.  The comments section is well worth a read.

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Suburban lots are 35 feet wide or more. Block after block.

While downtown homes tend to have narrower lots (we had one townhouse that was 17feet wide) and more of them.  And of course, apartments, even low rise ones like my neighbourhood. A truck would not be efficient for city delivery.


I can see problems similar to the one in Port Moody possibly cropping up in the Capital Regional District, such as on the southern portion of Foul Bay Road that straddles the Victoria-Oak Bay Border.  While not a steep street like Gatensbury in Port Moody, it's barely wide enough for two-lane traffic and full of blind corners.

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