08-05-2015 10:20 PM
In contemplating the ramifications of transferring my listings to com. in the future in order to continue selling in U.S. dollars and the suggestions from some people on this board that many Canadian sellers will be unable to meet the the requirements needed to remain qualified for the TRS status due to the high costs re tracking in Canada, what are your thoughts on the possibility of Ebay continuing to grant Canadian sellers an exemption on tracking requirements, albeit it be on com.
Your thoughts ?
Bill Lynn
08-05-2015 11:15 PM
08-06-2015 01:50 AM
Info on TRS for eBay.ca registered sellers.
http://pages.ebay.ca/help/sell/top-rated.html
Global TRS is what you have now from listing on eBay.ca Canada and does not need tracking and gives you 20% discount.
If you list on eBay.com, these USA listings still qualify for Global TRS on eBay.ca even if they do not have tracking. You still get the 20% discount.
If you want to qualify for eBay.com TRS in addition to eBay.ca Global TRS, then you will need tracking which is hard for a Canadian to do. TRS USA gets you better search visibility and some other perks but no big loss since you don't have TRS USA now anyway.
So listing on eBay.com should not affect your Global TRS that eBay Canada gives.
PS Global TRS shows on other smaller eBay sites worldwide. Global TRS members are eBay Italy, Spain, Poland, Netherlands, France and other smaller eBay sites. You show as TRS on these sites. Australia, USA, UK, Germany have there own TRS programs and your Global TRS does not show there.
08-06-2015 03:33 AM
You are selling kiloware to philatelists, a notoriously honest and phlegmatic bunch.
If you start using tracking, the money you spend will far exceed the discounts you might get from TRS status.
You have over 2500 positive FB and 100% reliability.
Don't worry about. Keep on doing what you are doing.
If you were selling in a different category, you might have reason to be concerned. But stamps? You guys are way straight shooters.
08-06-2015 08:12 AM
"some people on this board that many Canadian sellers will be unable to meet the the requirements needed to remain qualified for the TRS status due to the high costs re tracking in Canada,"
Most unfortunately, "some people" may not understand how the TRS works for Canadian selling on eBay.com.
08-06-2015 08:41 AM
Thank all of you for your input and information. This relieves my mind in regards what was obviously erroneous information.
Regards.
Bill Lynn
08-06-2015 08:54 AM
For more factual information about the Global Top Rated Seller (TRS) program allowing you to earn 20% rebate on your FVF fees:
http://pages.ebay.ca/help/sell/top-rated.html
That program - applicable to Canadians - should not be confused with the TRS-Plus program, requiring tracking.
08-06-2015 11:23 AM
@bl32 wrote:Thank all of you for your input and information. This relieves my mind in regards what was obviously erroneous information.
Regards.
Bill Lynn
When visiting various sources, usually message boards, for "information", keep in mind that a lot, many?, most?, of the people posting have a negative agenda: "eBay did this to me!" "PayPal did this to me!", etc.
People come to post, and read, negative stories. I have posted positive stories and been subject to a variety of abuse that I am a shill, liar, an eBay plant.
The TRS discount is quite easy to obtain, simply work hard and be dedicated. I should know. It was about three years ago and I was below standard, a variety of reasons, none to do with eBay. I simply stopped what I was doing and rededicated my efforts. I went from below, to standard, to above, in a few months. I was quite pleased.
Fall of 2014 I was "awarded" with TRS. I was confused and bemused. I said "This must be a mistake and will not last". Well, nine months later the mistake seems to be persisting.
The only time I use tracking is when the customer, I dislike the term "buyer", pays a premium price and I elect to upgrade shipping, or, when size or weight puts the widget into Expedited. I only list on com.
One gets the TRS discount by working smart. There really is no secret to it.
Consider that tracking is NOT required for selling and shipping. Tracking is only required in the event of a dispute. Cutting out Mexico and Chile, and I have had one (1) for real INR in the last 1,000 sales. I should spent an extra $7-$10 per packet to insure against the 1:1000?
There are a lot of ways to rationalize how we each run our own business. My way is to spend the least I can. That works very well for me.
08-06-2015 11:31 AM
@pocomocomputing wrote:
If you list on eBay.com, these USA listings still qualify for Global TRS on eBay.ca even if they do not have tracking. You still get the 20% discount.
If you want to qualify for eBay.com TRS in addition to eBay.ca Global TRS, then you will need tracking which is hard for a Canadian to do. TRS USA gets you better search visibility and some other perks but no big loss since you don't have TRS USA now anyway.
Thanks for posting that link. So those of us who do currently have TRS US (not TRS Plus though) will presumably lose it after one evaluation cycle if we decide to list on eBay.com but not use tracking. I'm certainly never going to be able to afford to send most parcels with tracking.
In light of recent indications that eBay.ca will likely switch to $Cdn only listings at some point in the not too distant future, I'm trying to be pro-active and consider whether to make the switch before the axe falls anyway.
08-06-2015 11:39 AM - edited 08-06-2015 11:41 AM
@rose-dee wrote:
@pocomocomputing wrote:
If you list on eBay.com, these USA listings still qualify for Global TRS on eBay.ca even if they do not have tracking. You still get the 20% discount.
If you want to qualify for eBay.com TRS in addition to eBay.ca Global TRS, then you will need tracking which is hard for a Canadian to do. TRS USA gets you better search visibility and some other perks but no big loss since you don't have TRS USA now anyway.
Thanks for posting that link. So those of us who do currently have TRS US (not TRS Plus though) will presumably lose it after one evaluation cycle if we decide to list on eBay.com but not use tracking. I'm certainly never going to be able to afford to send most parcels with tracking.
In light of recent indications that eBay.ca will likely switch to $Cdn only listings at some point in the not too distant future, I'm trying to be pro-active and consider whether to make the switch before the axe falls anyway.
I do not understand your reply. If you have eBay.com USA TRS Plus then you have already must be using tracking with Delivery Confirmation on 90% of transactions. Most Canadian sellers cannot do that using Canada Post services since tracking is expensive.
If I look at your eBay id, rose-dee, you have Global TRS because you are eBay.ca registered and meet the requirements in that link I posted (and Pierre). If you were to switch all your listings to eBay.com, you would not require tracking to keep eBay.ca Global TRS. You would not qualify for eBay.com USA TRS Plus because tracking is required. You do not have eBay.com USA TRS Plus when I check your profile on eBay.com.
Switching to eBay.com for your listing would not affect your eBay.ca Global TRS and your discount. Tracking is not needed to keep this.
08-06-2015 11:41 AM
"will presumably lose it after one evaluation cycle if we decide to list on eBay.com but not use tracking."
Where do you get that information?
08-06-2015 11:48 AM
@pierrelebel wrote:"will presumably lose it after one evaluation cycle if we decide to list on eBay.com but not use tracking."
Where do you get that information?
Same query.
I do not use tracking, well, maybe 2% (two) of the time and I am TRS with discount going on nine months.
08-06-2015 11:59 AM
About half my listings are on eBay.com.
I never ever use tracking yet I am pleased to get my 20% rebate every month on all my sales, including those on eBay.com with my Global TRS status.
08-06-2015 12:03 PM
@pierrelebel wrote:For more factual information about the Global Top Rated Seller (TRS) program allowing you to earn 20% rebate on your FVF fees:
http://pages.ebay.ca/help/sell/top-rated.html
That program - applicable to Canadians - should not be confused with the TRS-Plus program, requiring tracking.
I've just read through the link that 'poco' posted above, and if I'm not mistaken (someone please correct me if I am) there seem to have been some subtle changes in the rules for Canadian sellers with respect to US TRS and US TRS Plus.
Some time ago (I think it was in 2014, but it may have been earlier), eBay dropped the "pseudo" tracking that was allowing many Canadian sellers to maintain US TRS Plus, and introduced verified tracking. Prior to that time, any confirmation number (Light/Small Packet for example) would be counted toward the US TRS Plus tracking requirement. I know this because I did have US TRS Plus for several months prior to that change.
At that time, US TRS did not require tracking. I'm certain of this because my US TRS continued (and has continued to the current date, according to my dashboard today). Now here's the thing: in the link posted by 'poco', eBay's rules for Canadian sellers to qualify for US TRS are now (in part), as follows. Note the tracking requirement:
To become a US Top-rated seller you need to meet the following performance requirements:
Have an eBay account that's been active for at least 90 days
Have a positive Feedback rating of at least 98%
Have at least 100 transactions and $1,000 in sales with US buyers during the last 12 months
Upload shipment tracking to your buyer's My eBay within your promised handling time for at least 90% of your transactions with US buyers in the last 3 months.
US TRS Plus, on the other hand, now mentions nothing about tracking:
Top Rated Plus
To qualify for Top Rated Plus, listings need to meet the following requirements:
Meet all of the requirements of a Top Rated Seller listed above.
Offer a 14-day or more, money back return policy.
Offer same business day or 1 business day handling.
I'm really curious what this is about:
Is this an error on the 'help' pages (which we all know happens from time to time), or have the requirements for Canadians to qualify for the basic US TRS been just "quietly" changed in the last while? If so, why is my Dashboard still showing me as US TRS? Is it because this is a very recent development, i.e. only the last couple of months, and hasn't yet been reflected in the current evaluation cycle?
If anyone has any insight into this, I'd be pleased to know. My understanding was that Canadian sellers were exempt (or at least used to be) from the tracking requirements for US TRS, but needed it for US TRS Plus. So, contrary to my earlier post, that US TRS designation should follow us if we're listing on .com. Yet not according to the above link to eBay's rules on TRS. I'm so confused!
08-06-2015 12:08 PM
You are confused?
Take a look again at: http://pages.ebay.ca/help/sell/top-rated.html
As a Canadian seller on eBay.ca and eBay.com NOTHING ELSE is relevant or important.
Global TRS gets you that 20% rebate. That's it. It is that simple.
08-06-2015 12:11 PM
@pocomocomputing wrote:
I do not understand your reply. If you have eBay.com USA TRS Plus then you have already must be using tracking with Delivery Confirmation on 90% of transactions. Most Canadian sellers cannot do that using Canada Post services since tracking is expensive.
No, that's thing that suddenly "clicked" after I reviewed the link you posted today! I've never been able to meet that 90% tracking requirement, yet I've had US TRS (not Plus) for a long, long time and it's still showing as such on my Dashboard.
If I look at your eBay id, rose-dee, you have Global TRS because you are eBay.ca registered and meet the requirements in that link I posted (and Pierre).
This is probably what you see when looking at my listings on .ca (I presume), but eBay has been telling me (on my Dashboard) that I am still US TRS. As a matter of fact, I would qualify for US TRS Plus were it not for the 90% tracking requirement. Very odd!
If you were to switch all your listings to eBay.com, you would not require tracking to keep eBay.ca Global TRS. You would not qualify for eBay.com USA TRS Plus because tracking is required. You do not have eBay.com USA TRS Plus when I check your profile on eBay.com.
Switching to eBay.com for your listing would not affect your eBay.ca Global TRS and your discount. Tracking is not needed to keep this.
Yes, I do understand this, and have understood for some time that US TRS Plus was hopeless (I just let it drop after they brought in the tracking validation last year). But since I am still shown as US TRS, will I keep that designation if I list on .com? The fact that I am still shown as US TRS seems to directly contradict the eBay information in the link you posted, so I'm at a loss.
The only explanation I can think of is that this is a "quiet" change (i.e. the tracking requirement for US TRS) that has only recently been introduced, and that my evaluation cycle hasn't quite caught up with it. If this is true, then I guess I'll find out in a month or two when my Dashboard reflects the updated rules. Yikes, I hate it when eBay makes these "stealth" alterations of their rules!
08-06-2015 12:14 PM
"since I am still shown as US TRS"
???
Take a look at your listings again using .com in the URL. You are not considered TRS Plus as the TRS badge does not appear in your listings.
08-06-2015 12:20 PM
pierre lebel wrote:
You are confused?
Take a look again at: http://pages.ebay.ca/help/sell/top-rated.html
As a Canadian seller on eBay.ca and eBay.com NOTHING ELSE is relevant or important.
Global TRS gets you that 20% rebate. That's it. It is that simple.
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Pierre, you misunderstand my reasons for wanting to hang on to US TRS. I understand completely about TRS Global and the 20% rebate. I've had that for as long as it's been available to Canadians. Which is just fine, but there is more to TRS that's important to me because:
a) Virtually all of my customers are in the U.S. and will be looking at my items in searches on .com
b) Virtually all of my competitors are in the U.S. and I want to be able to compete not only in pricing, but in placement against them.
My big concern is that if tracking is now required for US TRS (as it used to be for US TRS Plus) then I'm out of luck if I switch to listing on .com (that is, assuming eBay's "help" page on this is actually accurate).
It's that simple. Please take another look part way down the page in the link you posted:
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US Top-rated program
Canadian sellers who meet all the basic US Top-rated seller performance requirements will receive the following benefits:
A prominent badge on their listing when viewed on eBay.com
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08-06-2015 12:29 PM
The site the listing is submitted on has never had anything to do with any TRS since that started. Its buyer location
Since you don't have "plus" then you don't have the supposed .com search advantage nor do you have a badge that can be seen by anyone looking on .com. Again, that fact makes no difference as to where the listing was submitted. .ca or .com submitted listings can count towards .de TRS in the unlikely event a Canadian had enough german buyers and met the criteria
08-06-2015 12:35 PM - edited 08-06-2015 12:37 PM
It's obvious that is old info that was written before TRS plus existed and before they changed the defect system. Look at the chart on there about having less than .60 in each category...that hasn't been valid for a while.
Nothing has changed.
You would not lose your TRS if you listed on .com.
My big concern is that if tracking is now required for US TRS (as it used to be for US TRS Plus) then I'm out of luck if I switch to listing on .com (that is, assuming eBay's "help" page on this is actually accurate).
Even if that was true, which it isn't...that still wouldn't have anything to do with whether or not you listed on .com or .ca.