Switching from Auctiva to Vendio

I have done some research into image hosting and listing application companies, and have settled on Vendio.
Here is what they are offering (copied and pasted from their site):

The Vendio Platform FREE for the rest of 2009 and only $10/month for 2010.
No Listing or Transaction Fees - Easily Import Your eBay Listings - Completely FREE Online Store - 2GB of Image Hosting - Unlimited listings on eBay, Amazon, and your own Vendio store
Robust and full featured free online store
2GB of Image Hosting
100s of free templates for your listings and store
Order management with tax and shipping calculation
Integrated with multiple payment platforms
Item and inventory management across all sales channels
Advanced item scheduling

The rep assisted me with setting up my free account, and I was up and running in 20 minutes. I also took them up on another offer- a one hour person to person phone seminar tomorrow morning with their rep who will assist me in getting everything changed over and help to familiarize me with the site and all of it's features. This was a one time cost of 30 dollars and was optional.

If anyone is interested, their toll free number is 877-258-8488 , or if you want to speak directly to the rep that helped me, his name is Allen and his number is 877-426-3253 extension 7001.

Cheers,
AXE
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The $70/month figure wasn't picked out of the air - that's likely what their accountants said they needed.

Auctiva is highly automated and software has been written and is fairly stable, so it can be pretty much slimmed-down to a garage operation if it has to. IMO unless they get bought but some aggressive competitor to close them down, they are not going anywhere.

Since everything is automated, there is almost no cost retaining a customer, no per customer consumables. If the customer has been no trouble, not many support requests, no high loads on the system and has been a happy camper, they'd be stupid to send this customer away.
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I agree that they're stupid to lose customers, especially in this environment.

But here's a story on the other side of the argument;

http://blog.auctionbytes.com/cgi-bin/blog/blog.pl?/pl/2009/6/1244656520.html

eBay's Vendor Pricing Wars - Really a Good Thing?


Everybody loves a bargain - no arguing that. But the pricing changes, lock-ins, bonuses, etc. that some of eBay's Certified Third-Party developers have been throwing around lately make me wonder if there is a price to be paid somewhere down the line for trying to attract sellers who may be in flux.

I remember using several excellent free tools such as AuctionSubmit and Invenna Software, which sadly, are no longer around. While sending out update reminders to services on the AuctionBytes Auction Management Services chart the other day, I noticed that nearly 20% of the listing services on the chart that weren't directly owned by eBay were either no longer in business or had merged with other companies. That percentage would be even higher had I not removed some of the "dead" sites a few years ago.

The point is, right now, it's a bit of a "land-grab" for sellers who may be in transition. The fact that vendors are competing is great for sellers because it keeps fees competitive, but the vendors themselves are vulnerable to one company, eBay, since they serve eBay sellers.

Offers are being made that may come back and bite companies squarely in the profit margin down the road, limiting their ability to adjust to economic conditions and industry changes. By attempting to attract new customers, could some be overreaching? Services have real overhead and costs, such as development, hosting, public relations, advertising and technical support - just to name a few. The main players in this pricing war are also eBay Certified Providers, a moniker that they pay for ($3000/year plus training costs plus $150/individual for consultant or engineer certification with an another annual $75/individual annual re-certification fee; all payment paid to eBay prior to gaining actual certified status). Another factor to consider is the cost vendors incur in keeping up with eBay changes, which according to those we've spoken with over the years, is formidable.

It's definitely a "buyers" (i.e., sellers) market right now in the 3P Service space, so I'm sure that sellers are weighing their options carefully, but a few questions come to mind:

* What is it that you expect from your service provider?
* How do you view free services? If the service is free or very inexpensive, are you assuming that it comes with little or no support?
* What is the balance between price and features/support that you look for before signing up with a service?
* When you change services, how big an impact does it have on your business?

I expect that there will be supporters and detractors of all of the services commenting here, but I'd like to take a bigger picture view of this issue, so setting aside the pom-poms and slingshots for a moment, give us your perspective on what factors will determine your choice in a service. And third-party service providers - you're welcome to comment as well, but please identify yourselves as such. -------------------------------------------------------------------

"The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority."
- Ralph W. Sockman

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. Carl Sagan
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This one is a direct answer to Bernie's question about how long Auctiva would guarantee the 9.95/month lock-in.
After you posed that question, Bernie, I went and asked the Auctiva support tech directly..... The answer?
He said that only 250 sellers (including myself) would be locked in at the 9.95/month rate for 18 months (to the end of 2010).

Just thought you would like to know.
Cheers,
AXE
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Copied from the Auctiva board

Auctiva Jeff
Posted June 11, 2009 03:55 PM
We've locked the prices for 12 months.


[url http://community.auctiva.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/196105921/m/621101741]Link[/url] - near the bottom of the page


I think that the people that paid $180 upfront are locked in for 18 months and the rest are guaranteed the new prices for 12 months. I did pay upfront as well but have debated on getting my money back and going month to month.
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He said that only 250 sellers (including myself) would be locked in at the 9.95/month rate for 18 months (to the end of 2010).

:^O

They're running a Banner ad offering the same deal on auctionbytes.

The guy just ran a selling slogan on you - they'll be locking in tens of thousands of people on this if they hope to survive. -------------------------------------------------------------------

"The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority."
- Ralph W. Sockman

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. Carl Sagan
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pjcdn2005-

I was never asked to pay up front for the 18 months in order to get the locked in 9.95/month deal, and although I do really like Auctiva's services, I would not pay anyone in advance like that, just in case.

Surplus-

While you may have your own theories, my previous post was an answer to Bernie' question, which was not a theory, but something that was spoken directly to me by the company. That said, even though I was told directly by Auctiva that 250 sellers were receiving the deal, I do understand the possibilities for any business to go back on their word or "tell the people what they wanna hear", which again, is why I would never pay them in advance. If they are out of business in a year, I really don't care- at 10 bucks a month it is still more than worth it for me. B-)

Cheers,
AXE
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Axe

I apologize for my assumption that you had prepaid. I agree that it is not the best idea to have prepaid in a situation like this and when they did offer the $10/month plan to the first 250 that would prepay for 18 months, I ignored it. But then I decided that I am comfortable at Auctiva & I that really didn't want to have to switch everything so I took a chance. For me, it was worth the lowered stress level.

Of course now I'm curious as to why you (and others?) are locked in for the same period without prepaying. And of course it is none of my business so I expect that I will continue to remain curious. 🙂

Have a great day.
Pam
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Hi Pam,
Yeah, to be honest, they never even asked me to prepay. I think that I was one of the first guinea pigs that they had asked if I would be interested in the 10 bucks a month plan, and they never asked me to prepay, just said that it's good for the 18 months. When I asked them to confiirm the 18 month guarantee they said "absolutely guaranteed locked-in". I am actually paying via automatic withdrawal from my Paypal account every month for the 18 months, so in a sense I am prepaying too.

To be honest, I agree with you. 180 bucks is nothing, especially when you like the service and want peace of mind, and I think you will find that you did the right thing.

Have a great weekend,
Cheers,
AXE
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Axe,

I was just remarking that the "you're in a special group" is a hoary old salesman's trick, and it looks like Auctiva is using it.

I just got one of the "come back to auctiva" letters - they offered the same rate.

They're offering it to everybody on request. -------------------------------------------------------------------

"The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority."
- Ralph W. Sockman

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. Carl Sagan
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