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@reallynicestamps wrote:It's true that the invoice could be clearer.
I'm looking at the packing slip from a sale yesterday.
Subtotal (purchase price) C $149.99
Shipping C$43.86
GST(eBay collected) C$19.39
Order total** C$213.24
**Order total includes eBay-collected sales tax ..... remits to tax authorities.... applicable state law.
According to my records, the buyer paid $24.72 to me for calculated shipping from Victoria to ON.
1.) It is my understanding that the rest of the "shipping " charge is the eIS shipping + tariff/duty/import fees
2.) The buyer pays their state sales tax. But eBay calls it GST, which is a Canadian term not used in the USA, and the Canadian GST would not be applicable to an exported sale.
3.) Are we now being charged fees on state sales taxes or not? We are when we ship outside the eIS, so I would assume that we are.
4.) It is not possible for the programming to tell the seller the exact cost of shipping (or of sales taxes) until the buyer purchases and their location established. And never has been, which is why we have Calculated Shipping in the first place.
Were any of these points covered in the seminar last week?
Are these new questions, devon@ebay ?
You are definitely correct. The final packing slip should be much clearer. Even a receipt from 7-11 is more transparent.
If you compare it to sending an invoice (sellers have to do from time to time when revised shipping or a discount is in play and a customer asks for 1...saves refunding after the fact) the invoice does NOT mirror the packslip exactly. Are all sellers including a PS in the box for buyers records? Highly recommended. Especially with ebay and customs being involved in multiple processes.
For a Canadian invoice to buyer it "currently" shows and includes the tax rate based on the province it is going to with split. The packing slip for tax shows it as line item(s) amount without % (with notation ebay collected). Unsure for US format because I haven't viewed or sent one in years. They have made sooo many modifications over the last 25 years I can no longer remember seeing a physically correct standard displaying invoice for anything eBay related.
In checking a purchase invoice I made in 2024 from a Canadian (ab) seller displays as follows. 12.00 for item. 2.00 for letter mail. Total 14.70. Tax wasn't even noted as a line item. So it has definitely been revised.
For your example it should show the sales tax collected from buyer based on their state an applicable tax rate with %. IF there is something like a recycling tax that should be shown also as secondary line item with applicable %. (From a personal experience it does not.) Important to note and realize tax rates can differ based on the zip code in a state. They also should be showing duty rate that was charged to the buyer. Does buyer even get an itemized charge of eis customs fees? Otherwise very challenging for a buyer to dispute.
Basically eIS is a Canadian Freight Forwarder. (Middleperson for transaction). For outside of USA shipments are they routing orders thru/via the USA or are they going directly to the foreign country bypassing the USA? Are they collecting tax(s) based on destination state or on fact item is now going to an Ontario address? Which tax total or are Canadian sellers being charged fees against the revised total amount?
And throwing it out there again. The Canadian portion with calculated shipping to hub or anywhere in Canada has prov. tax already built in as per example below. Why is ebay charging tax again on the item price and shipping total?
Tax calculation for QC Gov of Canada Site:
eBay PS Display: Note magic rounding difference
Based on @reallynicestamps example, the tax appears to be US state % vs Ontario.
When you view your FVF's for eIS transactions how transparent is the explanation as to what you were charged displayed? Or is it just as fuzzy? Looking forward to follow up to your post from eBay.
@reallynicestamps wrote:It's true that the invoice could be clearer.
I'm looking at the packing slip from a sale yesterday.
Subtotal (purchase price) C $149.99
Shipping C$43.86
GST(eBay collected) C$19.39
Order total** C$213.24
**Order total includes eBay-collected sales tax ..... remits to tax authorities.... applicable state law.
According to my records, the buyer paid $24.72 to me for calculated shipping from Victoria to ON.
1.) It is my understanding that the rest of the "shipping " charge is the eIS shipping + tariff/duty/import fees
2.) The buyer pays their state sales tax. But eBay calls it GST, which is a Canadian term not used in the USA, and the Canadian GST would not be applicable to an exported sale.
3.) Are we now being charged fees on state sales taxes or not? We are when we ship outside the eIS, so I would assume that we are.
4.) It is not possible for the programming to tell the seller the exact cost of shipping (or of sales taxes) until the buyer purchases and their location established. And never has been, which is why we have Calculated Shipping in the first place.
Were any of these points covered in the seminar last week?
Are these new questions, devon@ebay ?
You are definitely correct. The final packing slip should be much clearer. Even a receipt from 7-11 is more transparent.
If you compare it to sending an invoice (sellers have to do from time to time when revised shipping or a discount is in play and a customer asks for 1...saves refunding after the fact) the invoice does NOT mirror the packslip exactly. Are all sellers including a PS in the box for buyers records? Highly recommended. Especially with ebay and customs being involved in multiple processes.
For a Canadian invoice to buyer it "currently" shows and includes the tax rate based on the province it is going to with split. The packing slip for tax shows it as line item(s) amount without % (with notation ebay collected). Unsure for US format because I haven't viewed or sent one in years. They have made sooo many modifications over the last 25 years I can no longer remember seeing a physically correct standard displaying invoice for anything eBay related.
In checking a purchase invoice I made in 2024 from a Canadian (ab) seller displays as follows. 12.00 for item. 2.00 for letter mail. Total 14.70. Tax wasn't even noted as a line item. So it has definitely been revised.
For your example it should show the sales tax collected from buyer based on their state an applicable tax rate with %. IF there is something like a recycling tax that should be shown also as secondary line item with applicable %. (From a personal experience it does not.) Important to note and realize tax rates can differ based on the zip code in a state. They also should be showing duty rate that was charged to the buyer. Does buyer even get an itemized charge of eis customs fees? Otherwise very challenging for a buyer to dispute.
Basically eIS is a Canadian Freight Forwarder. (Middleperson for transaction). For outside of USA shipments are they routing orders thru/via the USA or are they going directly to the foreign country bypassing the USA? Are they collecting tax(s) based on destination state or on fact item is now going to an Ontario address? Which tax total or are Canadian sellers being charged fees against the revised total amount?
And throwing it out there again. The Canadian portion with calculated shipping to hub or anywhere in Canada has prov. tax already built in as per example below. Why is ebay charging tax again on the item price and shipping total?
Tax calculation for QC Gov of Canada Site:
eBay PS Display: Note magic rounding difference
Based on @reallynicestamps example, the tax appears to be US state % vs Ontario.
When you view your FVF's for eIS transactions how transparent is the explanation as to what you were charged displayed? Or is it just as fuzzy? Looking forward to follow up to your post from eBay.
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