Importing from China via Air Freight (Questions)

mirakbiz_inc
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Does anyone know what do I need to do to clear a shipment coming from China via Air Cargo?

I would prefer to clear it myself (don't want to get ripped off by a broker)
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Find a cheap broker. CDN customs is in cohorts with the brokers ... you will NOT get any info from them. The system is completely unfriendly to you. If you try to do it yourself you will need to know classifications etc ... CDN customs actually has an info session on how to do it yourself ... be willing to spend a lot time listening on why you should go through a broker.
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Can someone recomend a "cheap broker" in the GTA?
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Actually it's very easy and I have witnessed countless customs officers handholding casual importers.

I cleared my own weekly shipments through Pearson for over 20 years. A small amount of research and computer skills suffient to list an item on eBay are all you need.

That being said you can probably get a broker to do it for a pretty reasonable fee depending on the level of "disbursements" (gst/duty paid on your behalf), this could be quite a bit especially as the broker will want cash before you get the customs release and delivery. Of course you'll have to pay customs on the spot as well.

You can get all the info you need here:

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/formspubs/topics/imp_comm_goods-e.html

If you have any specific questions just post 'em.

Ben
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Just had a look at your listings....if you're importing those "supplements" or whatever you want to call them...


Get a broker!

It could get complicated

Ben
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iburk
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recped,

Goes to show you everyones circumstances can be different. I'm talking about a border crossing US/CDN ... they told us they can't help us (but in the end let us pass through w/o any taxes etc ... felt sorry for us). I wasn't trying to avoid anything ... just getting in water based polish from the US ... safe, safe, safe.

Another instance I was told by the customs officer that they can't tell me ... played the cold, warm, hotter game. It's not they don't want to help - they are told not to. I don't have a problem with any border guard - just the garbage that that our gov't is making them do.

The brokers have a big lobby going. This is completely against small business ... the same thing our lame gov't is saying they are promoting.
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No such thing as a cheap broker. All scum of the earth type that take your money for doing nothing.

BTW, if air cargo, sometimes the brokerage fee may be included.

Angelo
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iburk
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No such thing as a cheap broker. All scum of the earth type that take your money for doing nothing.

BTW, if air cargo, sometimes the brokerage fee may be included.



Well, actually, it's more like a "do it youself service" you pay them and do it yourself.
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iburk
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"do it youself service"

Make that do it your self service
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Border crossings are a bit of a different story......

Yes customs policy is to only assist commercial importers during their first importation. I don't see anything wrong with this, it's COMMERCIAL, as a taxpayer I don't see why I should contribute to the bottom line of some private business who is unwilling to either do it themselves or hire a broker/agent to do it for them. They can recoup the expenses when selling the product they are importing, if I buy one of their widgets I'll be paying a share. If I'm not interested in their widget I don't want to subsidize their business.

As for brokers (or agents or "representatives") customs or otherwise it's an occupation close to a parasite pretty much like PayPal or eBay, they take a cut off the top without seeming to do much of anything.

I have time on my hands so a trip across Toronto and a couple of hours at customs is no problem but there are quite a few who wouldn't mind paying 30 bucks to have someone take care of it for them even if it only takes them 5 minutes.

I got to know lots of brokers when I was a regular importer, the good ones made a decent living and in the Air Freight end of things the hours and pressure can be intense. I've also known lazy slobs who had no idea what they were doing, not much different than any service sector business.

Ben
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Hi all!
I think there is a limit amount to be able to import by yourself! And I also know they custom officers "must" help you with your importation... it is one of their tasks!

If I remember, your importation must be less than 3000$.

Call a broker and ask him... he will tell you that they must help you!
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mirakbiz_inc
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Thanks for the info Ben, I was there already and already downloaded the B3 form , a guide to complete it and a copy of the page showing the tariff applicable for my product (by the way, there are not the "supplements" those come from the US LOL)

I will give it a try myself, it's less than 2,000 so I don't think it should be too difficult (only one product /tariff)

I'm sending the balance of the $ today to the supplier (just received production samples yesterday) so the product should be here next week. Will see how it goes
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By the way, my day job is in Logistics.... a few years ago when I started,I worked for a company that imported raw materials from the US and Shipped final product back there... We used to pay about $250.00 to clear a trailer load. After i did some negotiation with some brokers I got it down to $17.00 USD to clear 1 trailer load with an extra $3.00 for additional SKU

Talk about BIG PROFITS !!!
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Talk about BIG PROFITS !!!

I used to sell one of my widgets consitently for $25 but after a few years the price has fallen to less than $10 and now they don't even seel that often....

There goes my BIG profits.

I don't want to give the impression I'm a big friend of customs brokers, if I was I would not have done all my own customs work. I just find it funny that eBay sellers who generally try to get the highest possible price for their product are very quick to slam someone else who is doing the same thing. If you're a "good" shopper you can get a "good" price it works the same with customs brokers as it does when buying on eBay.

Some sellers get all hot and bothered when a buyer makes a lowball offer but they would not hesitate to do the same as in your example. For better or worse "haggling" which had to a certain extent had vanished as a common practise in North America (a corporate conspiracy no doubt) is making a comeback, this is no more clearly demonstrated when it comes to money (lending/borrowing).... we are all advised now to negotiate a lower mortgage rate from the listing rate and if you want to buy a GIC just ask for a better interest rate and it's yours, those that have the nerve and skills get a better deal than those that just accept what's given to them.

Back to clearing your shipment....it will be easy, in fact the most difficult part might be finding customs out at Pearson (it's now out in the middle of the runways with obscure access off of Dixie). The Frieght company will call you, you oick up the manifest (cargo control document) from them. You'll need that tariff number, your (gst) business number and copies of the commercial invoices for the shipment. Shouldn't take more than an hour unless they want to actually inspect the goods (rare) and you can pay the duty/tax by cash, credit card or company cheque (there's a limit for cheques but it's probably well above what you'll need). Once you have the Customs Release you just go to whatever warehouse your goods are in and pick up your stuff.


Call a broker and ask him... he will tell you that they must help you!

Wouldn't do that, the broker will tell you it's very complex and you NEED his help (for a fee of course), they work pretty much like an eBay Trading Assitant....."I can sell this on eBay for you, you could do it yourself but it's so very very complicated".

Ben
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can-import
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I am working as a trucker to us... and I have to deal with brokers 3-4 times every week (on both sides). I once heard a broker talking on the phone to a client and telling him that he can clear his stuff easily if that was below a certain amount and that officers were paid to help him do so!
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