I think we should be able to leave negative feedback for non payers.
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07-23-2014 07:29 PM
There is a buyer that seems to bid on items but never pays but cannot be given negative feedback. You have to leave positive feedback but say this is negative as he is a non payer. Bring back
negative feedback for buyers to be able to leave for dead beat bidders and winners
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07-26-2014 09:30 AM
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07-26-2014 10:32 AM
"A Computer wiz can esaily and costly put a system in place to track caculate and punish without any need for us to report ..."
I am sorry that you do not get it.
First, it has nothing to do with "punish". This is business. There is no reason to take it personally.
eBay has no way to always know if a buyer has paid a seller or not. You may assume from your experiences that buyers only use PayPal to pay sellers. eBay only knows if PayPal is used.
However, many sellers will tell you that: they receive payments from buyers by methods other than PayPal. eBay has no way of knowing that.
In fact, I received an inquiry a few days ago from a buyer who wanted to pay by personal cheque. As always I quickly answered that personal cheques are always welcome. He followed up by asking if there is a way to stop eBay from sending payment reminders every second day! He finds them annoying. I do too!
The current system of sellers reporting non-paying bidders works well as long as sellers participate. I am sorry of your decision to ignore it, not to help all sellers minimize the problem. It may not be a perfect system but it works when used properly.
Hopefully, you will still benefit from other sellers reporting non-paying bidders who will then be prevented from purchasing your items and not paying you.
Yes, I know, it seems unfair that you benefit from a system when you refuse to participate but... that is the way it is.
And life does go on.

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07-26-2014 01:23 PM
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07-26-2014 01:30 PM
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07-26-2014 01:36 PM
Recently had a buyer NOT pay for a purchase...
Unpaid Item Dispute was eventually closed and buyer was blocked.
Buyer came back and still wanted the book... but was unable to buy it.
Buyer asked ... Why?
My response... This is the reality of eBay.
Many buyers do not realize until late that if they buy and do not pay...
First .... they cannot buy again from the same seller
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Second... they eventually become blocked from buying from other sellers.
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eBay has slowly changed for buyers.... Report a buyer is anonymous... Buyers are oblivious to the end result of too many reports.
However, what must happen is a seller MUST report the buyer or in turn block the buyer....
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Many have assumed that the new defect system is there solely to "punish" a seller..... If one looks closely ....
Buyers that continuously create defects are also identified... Report a Buyer
Think About It.....
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Adjustments to the defect system will come..... all the better for sellers.... and equally effective in identifying problem buyers...
Nothing is hidden from a seller... with this new Defect System
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07-26-2014 01:47 PM
Only once was a block removed for a buyer.... who did not pay but wanted the book...
This worked because the buyer was asked to treat this as a totally new transaction... and buyer did so
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The most important thing a seller should do is .... Report a Problem Buyer...
and Ultimately... Report a Buyer and UID's will wake up buyers ... Each to their own unique reality....
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Several people have been blocked for what was said in emails..
And ... several times It was felt that they bought through a second ID.... either their new ID or another person's ID...
and they behaved without incident..
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My listings are very heavily weighted towards one category....
Many buyers fail to recognize that with any problems.... they are blocked from buying from sellers such as me that list heavily and have a significant presence in one category.
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I have actually had one Customer Service Rep say to me... "one more report and he is gone"... paraphrased...
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07-26-2014 02:02 PM
@brandeentertainment wrote:
Just Remembered you asked .. Ebay used to have workers randomly answer peoples questions on the board what happen.. Answer was not enough staff anymore aka staff cuts ... Backing up my they save because you do there work statment...
Brande? Are you reading what you are writing? It is way over the top. You are hurling remarks better not hurled. Bordering on accusations. This is not like you. I do not understand this us and them under lying current you have going. I do not at all understand why you are attacking Pierre?
No-one here is your enemy. Quite the opposite.
Please, do not give me the difficult customer spiel. I managed inner-city liquor stores. The public has no idea.
Brande, c'mon, this is not like you.
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07-26-2014 04:47 PM
brande- If someone is threatening you and your family, eBay is not the place for the Report. You have to deal with the local police. I think that is the OPP for you? At the very least get a report number.
The police report number, attached to the eBay report, may help the dimwit clerk realize that this is a real problem member who needs discipline.
And the police report, forwarded to the threatener's local force, may mean he gets a visit.
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07-26-2014 05:36 PM
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07-26-2014 05:38 PM
"I mean really pierre how much time and money have you actually lost to non paying bidders ... I would assume a very very small percentage perhaps to small to say it is a not PROBLEM .... I mean what we see maybe a dozen complaints a week out of a couple million users which makes the percentage what .00000000001 not exactly a Problem"
I am really sorry you do not understand the extant of the problem.
Quite possibly, you never had anyone buy from you and not pay. Maybe that explain why you think it is not a problem on eBay. Maybe that explains why you think it is such a small problem (.00000000001).
eBay has previously acknowledged it is a problem, a real problem. They are not talking about "maybe a dozen complaints a week" but hundreds of thousands of transactions each year where the buyer did not pay. Sometimes the buyer was right in not paying as the seller may have been at fault (raising shipping charge, etc...)
For most of us, it is a problem. Is it 1%, 2% or more? I do not know but I can assure you the problem is much larger than that small percentage of yours. How do we handle the problem? Using the system because it works.
My "site preferences" block anyone from purchasing from me if they have received two (2) unpaid strikes in the last twelve months (among other requirements). So, I may not see a huge problem because I took steps to minimize it.
For example, a few days ago, unknown to me until today when I checked my "buyer requirements activity log", a buyer registered on eBay six years ago with feedback rating exceeding 600 was prevented from buying a $55 item because he has at least two unpaid strikes against him in the last twelve months. So I lost a sale (maybe) but I do not want to waste my time on those buyers. Frankly, I am very happy other sellers who experienced non-payment from that buyer took the time to file a non-payment complaint with the Resolution Centre. And I do the same for them.
As stated earlier, the system only works if sellers participate.
You may want to reconsider your policy and see that the system may benefit you if you use it properly.

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07-27-2014 01:07 AM - edited 07-27-2014 01:07 AM
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