Is there any way to actually do a 'cash on pickup' for local buyers? (Manitoba)
When I try to checkout on my own item from another account, and I believe I have all the addresses setup to see what the steps would be for a cash on pickup, I get this message on desktop:
@jtg204 wrote:Is there any way to actually do a 'cash on pickup' for local buyers? (Manitoba)
When I try to checkout on my own item from another account, and I believe I have all the addresses setup to see what the steps would be for a cash on pickup, I get this message on desktop:
Here is screenshot from a recently created listing. The tax is set up as per link below screenshot.
Here it is from the created listing.
It could be blocking you out because somehow it may know the accounts are connected. From my searches in help there is nothing I can find about sellers needing to collect the tax. I only know if they pay with a payment method eBay AUTOMATICALLY collects applicable tax.
As a random observation, when you create some listings you can add a handling charge for cash pick ups. For other listings the option is not available. Again, no explanation in eBay help on this.
@marnotom! wrote:Could it work differently for you, @lotzofuniquegoodies, because you're in Alberta which has no provincial sales tax? The fact that Manitoba has RST as well as GST may be what's tripping up @jtg204.
Also, this thread is from last year and things may have changed a bit since then.
As far as I know it hasn't changed. eBay just doesn't have a clear explanation in help on the subject. According to the the bonus link attached above regarding the ebay display, you have to be set up to collect tax. Because eBay is doing it for us should we really be collecting it on our own?
From my previous not that many months ago I believe we determined that eBay charged me for the AB recycling fee. Only problem being it did not show up until the customer paid and I noted it in eBay. After the buyer has left the building next to impossible to collect. It wasn't a large amount so not a big deal. In other situations it may be.
Important to consider that in the past the only sellers that collected tax were the ones registered to do so. Because of my volume I never did. I often had 3 or 4 sales (pre MP) where it was cash at the door. I never worried about it. (Personally I have the impression may have modified their procedure but never advised buyers. That is just conjecture on my part.)
PS. If you can locate I clearer explanation in eBay help, happy to peruse. I spoke to eBay in passing on this and even they didn't have a clear explanation on the concept which came with the token "we will get back to you" and not doing so. It could also be directly tied to FVF's and the total ebay chooses to use on CASH on BARRELHEAD transactions and wanting their cut.
As a side when you create a listing and eBay sends the email confirming this is what the title includes.
Which opens to this after the listing specifics:
Zippo is noted about being responsible for collecting tax from the buyer.
@marnotom! is probably correct, so I can't use it but sellers in no-tax locations can.
I'm using Business Policies, so the Cash on pickup option is in a payment policy instead of per-listing, and then I select that policy in a listing. The tax tables, don't seem to accept 0% and reverts to being not set after saving '0'.
When enabled, I see the option for cash on pickup on the listing page too, but when going to checkout it's not selectable, because ebay collects tax.
@jtg204 wrote:@marnotom! is probably correct, so I can't use it but sellers in no-tax locations can.
I'm using Business Policies, so the Cash on pickup option is in a payment policy instead of per-listing, and then I select that policy in a listing. The tax tables, don't seem to accept 0% and reverts to being not set after saving '0'.
When enabled, I see the option for cash on pickup on the listing page too, but when going to checkout it's not selectable, because ebay collects tax.
It appears now that tax is being collected on even cash sales. That tax comes out of anysellers profits on the and is used in calculating the FVF's. In trying several ways there is no work around. See screenshot.
This is what the buyer sees so unsure where the revised amount is coming from. The seller is Alberta. The buyer is in Alberta. The only tax in Alberta is GST at 5%.
devon@ebay Is this something that was recently update by ebay but with no warning to sellers? In the past on a cash sale the buyer ONLY paid the actual amount of item.
Justify collecting the tax? I'm not sure why this is a problem. The fact the buyer paid in cash doesn't change the fact that eBay provides an "invoice" that includes the taxes payable.
I have always been registered for GST and always charged eBay buyers GST, if a buyer is making a cash on pickup they still have to pay the tax.
Some people might tell that buyer, next time contact me directly wink wink and perhaps the tax goes away?
Buyers do pick up with cash expect to avoid shipping charges, if they expect no taxes as well they are out of luck.
So appears what happens is even though the item sold for 17.00 (listed for 18.00) the applicable tax is somehow becomes 1.45. (5% tax on a 17.00 item should be .85 or how it applies at a normal store.)
FVF fees attached. Magically those fees are being based on 18.00 + .45 tax. There is a secondary charge for that standard .40 + 2 cents tax. This is not really about the amount vs having the charges being calculated correctly. Is eBay applying best offer as some kind of imaginary coupon? Is this similar to how a sellers total sales dollars are calculated using item price + shipping + sales tax/vat when in reality tax and shipping are not profit?
As a point of reference confirmed another item that was sold recently using best offer and shipping. The FVF's were based on the best offer price + shipping + tax correctly.
@lotzofuniquegoodies wrote:
So appears what happens is even though the item sold for 17.00 (listed for 18.00) the applicable tax is somehow becomes 1.45. (5% tax on a 17.00 item should be .85 or how it applies at a normal store.)
FVF fees attached. Magically those fees are being based on 18.00 + .45 tax. There is a secondary charge for that standard .40 + 2 cents tax. This is not really about the amount vs having the charges being calculated correctly. Is eBay applying best offer as some kind of imaginary coupon? Is this similar to how a sellers total sales dollars are calculated using item price + shipping + sales tax/vat when in reality tax and shipping are not profit?
As a point of reference confirmed another item that was sold recently using best offer and shipping. The FVF's were based on the best offer price + shipping + tax correctly.
I realize this is going to be magically called the dreaded "Zombie Thread" but come up against this again.
According to ebay (currently) with a cash sale if customer pays via Paypal/CC etc eBay collects tax and charges fees on the total amount.
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If the buyer pays cash at your door SELLER can either try to collect tax from BUYER or the alternative is write it off as a loss. As soon as you park picked up/paid SELLER will be charged FVF's based on the total including any applicable tax.
There is nothing specific I can find in eBay help on the subject other than what I posted originally from the US help page archives. In speaking to eBay help via Facebook this evening their only suggestion was speak to an accountant on their hourly rate to get real legal advise. Again this sounds something else that was implemented without advising sellers. They did say they would send the 1099K form if I qualified. (A) Nowhere close to 30,000 USD and B)in Canada. C) That is 30,000 in a calendar quarter
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