shipping rip offs

I really enjoyed shopping on ebay but lately I have become unsatisfied with shipping rates that cost more than an item purchased..I have given up on getting anything from the US. for that reason, now I find my own countryman (Canada) doing the same thing.....as an example i recently bought 3 books from a Quebec seller who did not do combined shipping, and stated he went to Canada Post and it would cost $30.00 us or $15.00 us or $11.00 us shipping....he picked the 30.00 charge and tacked it to the invoice I requested for the 3 books combined but I could choose which one I wanted to pay??? Ok, I chose the cheapest price..duh and asked 2 times before getting a revised invoice.....once he asked if I was still going to buy the books or not??? So I get the books and the postal charge is right there and it cost $10.17 Canadian....now the difference btw 11 us and 10.17 isn't ridiculous but if I didn't question the shipping costs I would have been charged 30.00us???? Not to mention I have a real problem living in Canada buying from fellow Canadians and getting charged US currency....

 

It's really too bad I guess I will have to keep scouring flea markets, and thrift shops to get my books......

 

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Sounds like he was giving you a choice of services.

As a bookseller myself I am constantly amazed that customers in Fort MacMurray willingly pay me $12* for shipping a single (17x10x3 cm) paperback, but that actually is the lowest rate available. That several books could be shipped for the same price is a quirk of dimensional pricing.

 

Shipping is not just postage. It includes GST, fuel surcharge paid to Canada Post and packaging costs for the label and envelope or box.

 

If you had agreed to $30USD, the seller would probably have shipped with tracking, insurance and faster delivery by Expedited or ExpressPost, rather than by Regular Parcel.

 

 

* I just checked my shipping chart and apparently that has now risen to $18. but I can send up to 750 grams in that parcel.

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Hello 'patty55ca',

The differences in prices may depend on the service that is chosen.  Have you seen the

Canada Post website where you can get parcel rates?

http://www.canadapost.ca/cpotools/apps/far/personal/findARate?execution=e1s1

 

And the USPS site:

http://ircalc.usps.com/?country=10054

 

Your seller seems quite reasonable and fair to me.  There are so many of the other kind.

He offered you the choice, fine, and you opted for the cheapest and slowest service.

Obviously you are not in a hurry, - but the $30 would have been a bit faster.  Definitely not

worth the extra $$, no, but you are fortunate to have been able to decide for yourself.

At least that is what I understand from your post.

 

<< I have a real problem living in Canada buying from fellow Canadians and getting charged US currency >>

 

You are not alone, -- a lot of Canadians feel the same way.  The thing is, Canadian sellers will

tell you that most of their business goes south of the border.  Canada has a small population so

in order to stay in business, sellers need to sell to the US.  And in order to sell to the US,

Canadians need to list in US dollars because it makes Americans happy.  Canadians are generally

more internationally-minded and are used to thinking in other currencies, whereas Americans tend

to be a bit prickly about wanting to buy in the only currency they are comfortable with.

 

There are sellers in the UK and Europe who list their items in US dollars, -- trying to appeal to the

large American market.  It's just a necessary business practice.  The same way almost everywhere

we go in Canada we see signs in shop windows announcing "on parle français" or "hablamos español", etc.

 

You are right, though, that ebay is not the cheapest place online for books.  It depends on the title, too,

of course.  Choose "Worldwide" from the Location option on the left, and then "Price plus shipping"

in the Sort bar.

Otherwise, there are other places to go, - amazon, abebooks, and my favourite - bookdepository.

At that, however, you won't find the sinfully low prices (considering price + shipping) anywhere online

that you'll get from flea markets and thrift stores, so that may not have been the fairest comparison.

Not everyone is as mobile as you clearly are, so for those who are unable to 'scour' these local vendors

for goodies, being able to click a few buttons and have the books arrive at the door is still a pretty good

deal at any price.

All depends who you are, I suppose.

 

Happy reading.  Smiley Happy

 

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Hello,

 

My package was delivered in 3 days at the lowest shipping price.......I source my books out at various outlets including the ones you mentioned too which often have free shipping if you spend $25.00 which is the only way I buy.  Perhaps the comparison between thrift stores etc. is comparing oranges to apples but ultimately for me it's my bottom dollar that I pay that motivates my purchasing.........

 

Canadian sellers make more money charging in US funds considering our dollar is usually worth less so although the American market is larger so understandably they want to tap into that market it comes at a cost to Canadians buyers, sorry I guess I'm not that internationally minded.

 

You are right that depending on who you are and how much value you place on difference services or your particular circumstances Ebay may be the best choice for them, I do have mobility issues myself by the way and thankfully not completely house bound yet which is how I came to include ebay in the mix of places I shop.  In the end everyone gets to choose but most people want the best bang for their buck and for me that seems less likely than it was not so long ago at ebay.

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"Canadian sellers make more money charging in US funds considering our dollar is usually worth less"

 

???

 

Not really.  That is a misconception.

 

Most Canadian sellers price an item based on its market value or, in the case of auction, the market value is determined by buyers collectively.

 

If the item I want to sell is worth in my opinion Cdn$ 50, I have a choice: I can list at US$ 46 or Cdn$50, both representing more or less the same value to all buyers, based on current currency conversion.

 

If I price my item at US$50 (Cdn$ 54) then that would be more than the Canadian market is willing to pay and my item will not sell.  So a seller would not "make more money" by overpricing an item.  It would simply remained unsold.

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Pierre is right.  Listing in US dollars really means nothing, it is semantics.  To me anyway!  I sell as well as buy and I don't find Canadians gouge with shipping costs in general.  It's pretty hard to do that when our shipping costs are high anyway compared to the same item going to the same distance in a more populated country per land mass like the US. 

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@hocotatefreight2 wrote:

Pierre is right.  Listing in US dollars really means nothing, it is semantics.  To me anyway!  I sell as well as buy and I don't find Canadians gouge with shipping costs in general.  It's pretty hard to do that when our shipping costs are high anyway compared to the same item going to the same distance in a more populated country per land mass like the US. 


It's not quite semantics. Selling in US dollars means more US buyers.

 

even ebay says so right when you are listing:

 

Listings in US$ will attract more interest from US buyers and on average are 15% more likely to sell.

 


While you can't exactly relate the numbers, it's a valid point that if there are 10x as many buyers in the US, then 15% or greater than 1 in 10 (ie,all Canadian buyers) means that it's a sale losing decision to list in CAN$. 

 

Ebay further makes it difficult to switch between Can and US listings. 

 

My personal experience is that listings in CAN$ not only sell less, but sell for less money and that a $50 CAN item would for example sell for not, $46USD, but $40CAN. If listed in USD would sell for $46USD.

 

It is frustrating for Canadian buyers, but as a seller, it's a no brainer for most to list in US dollars. With taxes added by many Canadian sellers, it's almost a disincentive to buy from a canadian seller.

 

But knowing this, there are easy ways to find the cheap items and not get discouraged.

 

If you want to buy cheaply on ebay, try this:

 

1. Canadian seller

2. Low feedback, even lots of negative feedback if the FB left is for spurious claims.

3. Can$

4 Small seller.

5. Auction.  

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froogal

You are absolutley right. And many new or occasional sellers should take notice of your post to learn why they will never make a profit on eBay.

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