05-09-2024 09:05 AM
I have 2 small packages coming from the US they got to the hub fine and then they have just sat there or been mailed around in a circle in Illinois for like 2-3 weeks. I've used it many times before and never had this problem. It usually just takes a day or two to clear customs and send it up here.
So frustrating. I'm going to go back to using my own mail forwarding service as it's a little cheaper and now way more reliable as well
05-09-2024 01:34 PM
The program has changed from the GSP, and is now eBay International Shipping (eIS).
It is still a Seller Protection Program, but a few more seller protections have been added.
There are more complaints about slowness of eIS, but the complaints about the high cost (because the GSP automatically charged import fees to the customer upfront) seem to have disappeared.
Frustrating as it is to watch nothing happening, the main question is: What is the last estimated date for delivery ?
Mark that on your calendar and don't watch tracking.
If that date has passed, open an Item Not Received claim.
The value will be refunded by eIS, not your seller.
It would be polite to let your seller know about your frustration, either after receiving the purchase or the refund.
BTW- if you are refunded and the purchase arrives late, eIS doesn't want the parcel back.
05-09-2024 03:12 PM - edited 05-09-2024 03:14 PM
I agree with @reallynicestamps in that there usually isn’t much point in slavishly checking the tracking for an item until it’s reached the estimated delivery window. If your items have been in limbo for three weeks or so, it does sound as though you’ve shown restraint.
An item with tracking scans suggesting the item is “circling” Illinois is probably one that’s dealing with backups somewhere. The item is trying to get dropped off somewhere but that shipping point can’t accept it and the hundreds of other items it’s travelling with, so those items have to be warehoused elsewhere until the next shipping point is ready to accept them.
That point could be the eIS processing hub, it could be the USPS International Sort Centre in Chicago, it could be a commercial facility. It depends on who’s handling the item from the eIS hub to Canada. The Parcelsapp site may be able to give you more information if what you’re seeing on eBay is a little cryptic.
05-09-2024 07:47 PM
Update.Ebay refunded my money for the phone I got today so I guess they are taking responsiblity for losing it or something (I didn't even ask them for a refund just to check on the status of it). Since it's my only phone waiting much longer for it isn't really an option so at least I was able to get another one now without wasting a bunch of money.
Any forwarder will "double charge" you for shipping as you obviously need to pay the cost to get it to them but I need to know the packages will arrive in reasonable time.
A couple of other things I ordered recently have also been very slow to ship and I haven't got them yet so it seems like it is an issue for this new company they have handling it. The one they used to use in Kentucky seemed better at least as a buyer
05-10-2024 10:02 AM
@ivystung wrote:Update.Ebay refunded my money for the phone I got today so I guess they are taking responsiblity for losing it or something (I didn't even ask them for a refund just to check on the status of it).
Thanks for the update, @ivystung. eBay generally believes that buyers are due refunds if their item hasn't reached them by the last estimated date of delivery and there's no indications that it's going to show up anytime soon after that. Did the phone ever get checked into the hub? Did it leave the hub?
@ivystung wrote:
A couple of other things I ordered recently have also been very slow to ship and I haven't got them yet so it seems like it is an issue for this new company they have handling it. The one they used to use in Kentucky seemed better at least as a buyer
The new eBay International Shipping system deals with twice as many countries as the old Global Shipping Program did, so that may be part of the problem. Also, shipping to the EU is a lot more involved than it used to be, so there may be delays in getting EU-bound orders prepared for delivery or double-checking that they're even deliverable in the first place, and all this extra work is gumming up the works.
I purchased a couple of clothing items last year that sailed through the Glendale Heights hub in a matter of days. One was delayed, but that was due to problems USPS was having getting the item to the hub in the first place. It still arrived within the delivery time estimate. Something seems to be causing a backlog somewhere but we mere mortals aren't privy to that info.
05-10-2024 12:55 PM
It has a Canada Post tracking number and says they mailed it from IL but it's been stuck on that status over a week. I may still get it I suppose but I'm not optimistic:
https://www.canadapost-postescanada.ca/track-reperage/en#/details/LV828593685US
It could have to do with phones being hard to ship due to the batteries. I'm not sure why but I know I've had to declare that on customs when I've had to fill it out myself before for my last phone but they should be still able to ship it.
I got some things around Christmas and they came through fine but the shaver blade and shoes I recently bought are thaking their time getting through it as well so maybe they are really backed up or something. Anyway thanks for your advice
05-10-2024 01:37 PM
Is the problem that some sellers are slow to ship, or that the eIS is not meeting their deadlines?
Again, the only important date is the last estimated delivery date.
Ebay refunded my money for the phone I got today so I guess they are taking responsiblity
So now you have both the phone and your payment? bonus!
Has the other item you mentioned arrived yet? Is it past its estimated delivery?
05-10-2024 04:26 PM
well certainly no guarntee I will get the phone as it appears to be lost in transit somewhere but it may show up. Give credit to Ebay though they were generous refunding it and made the situation a lot less frustrating. It's not a problem to the seller they shipped it to the hub within a couple of days but it's been stuck there for almost a month although the tracking claims it has been mailed out.
It should take a wek or two at most to clear customs and get here amd the tracking hasn't updated at all in a week. so there is some kind of problem either with the shipping company or Canada Post losing it I'm pretty sure
Other items are going through the same thing of being stuck in Illinois now. I am watching it but it's only been a couple of weeks so they may be just held up.
05-10-2024 11:34 PM
Nothing generous about it.
They have insurance to cover themselves, and their eIS subcontractors, when they mess up.
(grump grump grump)
If the package hasn't left the USA it probably won't. It will eventually be sold to a liquidator and may even turn up on eBay once again.
If the tracking is just behind it may have entered Canada.
Don't count on anything except the money you were refunded.
05-11-2024 01:09 AM
@ivystung wrote:It has a Canada Post tracking number and says they mailed it from IL but it's been stuck on that status over a week. I may still get it I suppose but I'm not optimistic.
Technically speaking, it's a USPS tracking number (it ends in "US"), @ivystung, but I'm not going to split hairs about that. You can use that tracking number on the Parcelsapp and USPS websites and you'll find the same sorry tale of the item doing a U-turn after customs pre-clearance at the USPS Chicago International Sort Center. It looks as though the phone is now back in beautiful Glendale Heights where, as @reallynicestamps suggests, it's likely being prepared for liquidation.
@ivystung wrote:
It could have to do with phones being hard to ship due to the batteries. I'm not sure why but I know I've had to declare that on customs when I've had to fill it out myself before for my last phone but they should be still able to ship it.
Items with batteries--particularly lithium-ion batteries--do seem to give the eIS system a tough time. There are several posts on this board about items such as mobile phones and laptops sent through the system that simply "dead-end" once they're accepted at the Glendale Heights hub. Yours is the first post I've seen about an electronic item that's got through the hub only to be turned back at the next stage in its journey, although we did see another post this week about an item that did a U-turn but I don't think the poster specified what it was.
You're right, the phone should be shippable as the battery is contained within the phone itself. I purchased three mobile phones at various times that were forwarded through the old Global Shipping Program and had no issues receiving them. Why electronic items are tripping up this new system is anybody's guess, but I'm suspecting poor employee training that may be leading to a misunderstanding of the regulations regarding the handling of Li-ion batteries or how they should be documented/labelled for customs.
@ivystung wrote:
I got some things around Christmas and they came through fine but the shaver blade and shoes I recently bought are thaking their time getting through it as well so maybe they are really backed up or something. Anyway thanks for your advice
Yeah, I guess the original subject of your thread was the slowness of eIS, wasn't it? Oops. Yeah, there's something going on that's leading to back-ups, I suspect. My advice again is to just keep your blood pressure at a reasonable level and don't bothering with checking the tracking information until the items are within the delivery time window.
05-11-2024 11:23 AM
I'm going to just go back to using Shipito at least until they fix this stuff. It's too annoying to have to worry about every package getting through. and Shipito lets me combine the shipping which means I can save some money if I wait and buy multiple items at once.
Thanks
05-11-2024 12:35 PM - edited 05-11-2024 12:37 PM
@ivystung wrote:I'm going to just go back to using Shipito at least until they fix this stuff. It's too annoying to have to worry about every package getting through. and Shipito lets me combine the shipping which means I can save some money if I wait and buy multiple items at once.
I think that's the best plan for "must have" items that we don't trust the eIS with. I may buy a Mister Rogers-style cardigan or something else I don't need this time of year just to see for myself how eIS is working or not working.
For what it's worth, there was an announcement a few months back that combined shipping was being rolled out for sellers using eIS, but I suspect it doesn't work as planned.
05-14-2024 05:04 PM
I purchased a small item mid April and mine is doing the dance . I was even contacted by DHL to pay customs costs and the item isn't even in Canada or at the border yet but they keep bumping the delivery dates and they have not suppied any tracking number .
The estimate deleviery date has now been moved to May 23rd which will make it 6 weeks since purchased and it was sent within 2 days by the seller . The Seller is in California and I'm in Edmonton which is noramlly a week at the most
What does DHL have to do with this ? When I try to check the DHL site ,which asked me to pay duty ,there is no tracking info at all
This is the last time I buy from EBay . I use Amazon or other sites instead as the shipping is painfully slow and expensive
05-14-2024 09:18 PM
@1bad86gt wrote:
What does DHL have to do with this ? When I try to check the DHL site--which asked me to pay duty--,there is no tracking info at all.
This is the last time I buy from EBay . I use Amazon or other sites instead as the shipping is painfully slow and expensive
My guess is that DHL is shipping your item up to Canada as part of a consolidated shipment and your payment was required as part of a customs pre-clearance process based out of the US. Sometimes--particularly with Express shipments--the carrier will pay taxes and duty on behalf of the recipient and then the recipient pays the carrier back along with a hefty fee for the carrier's service of "advancing" the taxes and duties due.
05-15-2024 04:17 AM
I was even contacted by DHL to pay customs costs and the item isn't even in Canada
It's not unusual for private couriers to broker imports through customs. They charge an arm a leg and three toes for the service though.
Many customs points are in the exporting country. Not unusual.
When I try to check the DHL site ,which asked me to pay duty ,
They are not going to send it on until the import fees are paid.
Once you pay the import fees, they will (probably) start it moving.
The ball is now in your court.
05-24-2024 09:39 AM
I had a laptop sit 5 weeks in a limbo, never got it. Now I have a batch of laptops also sitting in GLENDALE HEIGHTS limbo. What the hell? It hasn't been this bad in the past.
05-24-2024 10:47 AM
@stacklakeoy wrote:I had a laptop sit 5 weeks in a limbo, never got it. Now I have a batch of laptops also sitting in GLENDALE HEIGHTS limbo. What the hell? It hasn't been this bad in the past.
A possible problem with laptops and/or anything with Lithium Ion batteries is they could be stopping in their tracks with eIS. See attached.
See 622.1
https://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/pub52c6_004.htm#ep254913
eBay USA announcement on subject 2022
In some cases sellers may be unaware and just send to eIS for forwarding where banned items "could" potenially get refused and refunded. Sellers are supposed to be knowledgable on what they can and can't send. Not all do their due dilligence.
-Lotz
03-15-2025 01:14 AM
03-15-2025 10:55 AM
03-15-2025 01:54 PM
ZOMBIE THREAD FROM MAY 2024
The problem with zombie threads is that the information and advice may be out of date.
For example, the last two posts to this thread concern not GSP but eIS and discuss the new tariff and de minimus situation with shipping to the USA.
Useful information but unrelated to the original problem