Canada may be the first nation to do it...

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Canada may be the first nation to do it...

There are those who get their panties in a twist about people receiving an "unearned" income.

 

But  I can see the taxpayer saving money on a Guaranteed Annual Income, simply by rolling all welfare, disability, old age, baby bonus and other income programmes into one. 

And like the Baby Bonus (yes I'm old) and the Old Age Pension (which I get every month) it can be given to everyone and then taxed back from those who do not need it. A simple system that has been working well for nearly 100 years.

 

It's worth noting that Revenue Canada announced that some 800,000 CERB recipients  returned their payments as not being needed.

 

One thing, Canada may not be the first.

I believe Saudi Arabia has a GAI programme for all their citizens taken from oil revenues. And Alaska does something the same with their oil income.  I'm admittedly not clear on the details.

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What is the use of working if everything is gifted to you on a silver platter. ?

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@nuvistors wrote:

What is the use of working if everything is gifted to you on a silver platter. ?


There will be no silver platters.  Maybe cheap paper plates.

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How old are you, evidently not very...

 

Last Century when work was abundant, workers not only got a wage for their labour...

 

Millions got other "Benefits"

 

In the case of my Grandparents that was a 4 bedroom House with 6 Fireplaces, FREE coal for said fireplaces, FREE hot piped in water. A Garden, an allotment, access to the Miners Welfare Club with all the latest luxuries for all the workers and families...

 

Trips on the company train to the seaside...

 

THAT WAS BACK IN 1938

 

You have been raped of all these "Benefits" by a greedy elite and corrupted GOV

 

BASIC INCOMES have always been there in one form or another, you really need to educate yourself, and get a better grasp of grammar.

 

What do you think the $200.00 is when you pass GO in the game MONOPOLY.

 

That game was created by a Woman to teach "Capitalism" in School and purchased by Parker Bros to turn it into a game!

 

Basic Incomes was always in the PLAN, and if you do not get involved in that conversation it may well be only engough for a paper plate to eat from...

 

 

 

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Your grandparents lived a very different life than my grandparents and parents.  According to them, life was very tough then and there was absolutely nothing given to them for free.  So my family hasn't lost  any of those benefits as they didn't exist here. 

 

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Your grandparents lived a very different life than my grandparents and parents.  According to them, life was very tough then and there was absolutely nothing given to them for free.  So my family hasn't lost  any of those benefits as they didn't exist here. 

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Same here.  Your benefits apparently were only for   the elite.   My grandparents did not get all the handouts that his  grandparents did.  Perhaps his grandparents were politicians,

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I worked hard for 44 years, paid a lot of taxes, never burdened the system, and would like some of that action too please.
Incrementally increase income taxes for income over $100,000, review and correct loopholes, etc. in the tax code, and you have my blessing.

Neither my parents or their parents, or any relations, neighbours, or families I've ever known, received any of the sweetheart benefits mentioned.
They all worked their butts off to provide for their families, and achieve all they did.
They weren't stupid people that missed the boat.
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Sounds like brettjet's grandparents were underground miners in Britain. Or perhaps in Cape Breton.
Most of those "perks" were the result of union action, and some (the housing perhaps?) from a paternalistic mine owner who understood that an underfed, sickly miner wasn't going to make any money for him.

 

When my family came here in 1952, with no job promise, my dad was able to buy a brand new house within four months of landing, subsidized by the government for veterans. 

Other veterans were able to complete schooling, including post-secondary education with government subsidies. I attended Carleton University (15 years later) one of the new universities that specialized in educating those veterans.

My parents left school for apprenticeships around 14 years of age. But both my mum and, later,  I got a Baby Bonus for our children, which allowed those kids to go finish high school  or even go to university. The Baby Bonus is back in some form I believe having disappeared for some time.

Unemployment insurance was another government program that was cut way back during Conservative regimes. It was never a living wage in itself, but was generous enough to help many families through rough spots.

 

 

 

 

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Baby Bonus = Canada child benefit (CCB)

 

Your folks were lucky.

We lived in PMQs (military housing) , now called RHUs (Residential Housing Units), in Lancaster, Leicester, and CFB Montreal.

Then renting in Richmond, upon my father's transfer to RCAF Station Sea Island.

He moonlighted on the graveyard stocking crew at Woodwards , Oakridge, in Vancouver to help save for a house of their own.

In his 30s, my father did receive a paid electrical engineering degree through DOT.

My mother became a bank manager.

Yup, things worked out and they prospered, as it did for many of that generation.

Many of my generation and our children have benefited from their commitment, hard work and sacrifices.

Instant gratification and self-entitlement is where it's at now-a-days.

But that's another story.

 

 

My grandfather was a coal miner in England.

All he ever got was a lot of crud in his lungs.

 

 

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In Many Ways, Justin Trudeau is like his Father... 
It's Actually an OLD IDEA - with a NEW FACE 

A Guaranteed Income is Not Actually New in Canada.. It's just Not Been Done on Such a Wide Scale:

A Canadian City Once Eliminated Poverty And Nearly Everyone Forgot About It

Between 1974 and 1979, residents of a small Manitoba city were selected to be subjects in a project that ensured basic annual incomes for everyone. For five years, monthly cheques were delivered to the poorest residents of Dauphin, Man. – no strings attached.

And for five years, poverty was completely eliminated.

The program was dubbed “Mincome” – a neologism of “minimum income” – and it was the first of its kind in North America. It stood out from similar American projects at the time because it didn’t shut out seniors and the disabled from qualification.


The project’s original intent was to evaluate if giving cheques to the working poor, enough to top-up their incomes to a living wage, would kill people’s motivation to work. It didn’t.



https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/12/23/mincome-in-dauphin-manitoba_n_6335682.html

The Tar Sands is Another Per"fact" Example:

"Lest we forget, the tar sands fuel war and the phrase ‘never again’ requires a deeper look at the historical development of the tar sands. Since the creation of the first tar sands operations, the nation-state of Canada viewed bitumen as part of its military strategy. During the cold war, Pierre Trudeau brought tar sands plants online to help provide ‘energy security’ to North America. Over the past decade, Canada has been a war profiteer and fuel tank for the US military, who have killed well over a million people since the turn of the new millennium."

https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/lest-we-forget-tar-sands-and-war




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@bearlover69 wrote:

 

In Many Ways, Justin Trudeau is like his Father... It's Actually an OLD IDEA - with a NEW FACE 
The Tar Sands is Another Per"fact" Example:

"Lest we forget, the tar sands fuel war and the phrase ‘never again’ requires a deeper look at the historical development of the tar sands.

 

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