10-10-2013 02:01 PM
Not sure whats up with ebay views counting system, but on some of my items I have more watchers than views 😉
10-10-2013 02:03 PM
I always enjoy getting a bid yet showing no view!
Yes, I believe in the Virgin Mary!
10-10-2013 02:29 PM
10-10-2013 02:33 PM
Mary, like many modern women, has been using her maiden name since she was born. Has nothing to do with our marital status!
10-10-2013 03:48 PM
10-10-2013 03:49 PM
Did you know:
Under the Civil Code of Québec, both spouses retain their respective names in marriage and exercise civil rights under those names. Consequently, if a married woman wants to adopt her spouse's surname, the Directeur de l'état civil will authorize that change of name only in an exceptional situation.
10-10-2013 04:43 PM
@pierrelebel wrote:Did you know:
Under the Civil Code of Québec, both spouses retain their respective names in marriage and exercise civil rights under those names. Consequently, if a married woman wants to adopt her spouse's surname, the Directeur de l'état civil will authorize that change of name only in an exceptional situation.
I remember hearing about that. I'm curious what you think about it Pierre.
I think that it should be the woman's choice which name they use.
10-10-2013 05:03 PM
10-10-2013 05:13 PM
"it should be the woman's choice which name they use"
It is a difficult question for a man to answer.
Tradition seems to lead most married women to take their husband surname. Somehow Quebec and other jurisdictions, answering pressure from the "liberated" women movement, decided that a woman should legally maintain her maiden name once married, just like men have done for as long as we can remember. It was a question of equality of gender. Some may agree, some may not.
http://marriage.about.com/od/canada/p/quebec.htm
"Women keep their birth name after marriage and continue to exercise their civil rights under that name, i.e. they must use their birth name in contracts, on credit cards, on their driver's licence, etc. They are free however to assume their husband's name socially."
10-10-2013 06:18 PM
Is the husband free to assume the wife's name as well? (Virgin and Pierre Mary)
To be truly equal one has to add that to the mix
10-10-2013 09:43 PM
Virgin Pierre. A new deity.
10-11-2013 12:40 PM
I think that it should be the woman's choice which name they use.
WRONG PJ, Gawd i love disagreeing with you. :smileyhappy
Women should not have a choice.
My wife understands who the boss is & everything i say is law.
I give her a little wiggle room when it comes to rescheduling my foot rubs.
Now back to reality.
My wife has kept her maiden name.
My daughter has kept her maiden name.
In our circle of friends the women have all kept their maiden names.
I have never had an issue with this. Maybe some do, but i am not part of that group.
I can distinctly remember when she mentioned many years ago, " Do you mind if i kept my last name ? "
My reply " Why would i mind, that is the name you were born with. "
Have our female friends on here kept their maiden names ?
10-11-2013 02:31 PM
Very funny 'pj'
If I can add my 2 cents, as a woman I can say that some of us like to "merge" our identities with those of our spouses, others prefer to keep the name they were born with and have a sense of continuity of identity. Sometimes it's just easier to keep a simpler name.
I confess I gave in to my husband's expectations and changed my last name, although I probably would have preferred to retain my maiden name (easier to say and spell) -- shhhh, don't let this get beyond here. It was important and meaningful to him that I take his name and not so important to me to keep my own.
There can be pressure from tradition and subtle pressure (or sometimes not so subtle) from some men, something to do with ego, possession, or need for supremacy? I don't know. Some can actually get very hurt at the idea that a wife doesn't want his family name. I've had some female friends whose husbands practically insisted upon it -- you get the ring, you take the name (ughhh). True love would be leaving that decision up to the woman herself and not feeling hurt or insulted if she chose to retain her name.
Québec may have a point: obliging a woman to keep her own name takes the pressure off the woman and avoids putting otherwise goodhearted men in the position of having to ask. Being able to use the man's family name socially is a decent compromise for both parties. The other advantage of course is that it makes people a lot easier to keep track of by government and others (ever tried finding an old female school friend who may have been married twice? - impossible).
The only trouble is that you end up with those weird and hideously hyphenated family names that I notice pop up a lot in Québec, presumably because neither spouse can agree which name the child is going to take.
10-11-2013 02:40 PM
"weird and hideously hyphenated family names"
I know what you mean.
My daughter - living in Toronto with her husband - has kept her maiden name. That was important to her. The children have hyphenated names.
My son - living in Toronto with his wife who has kept her maiden name - has named his daughters with his last name only. Everyone is happy with that solution.
There is no right or wrong. Folks have to do what they feel is best for them.
10-11-2013 08:36 PM
I hyphenated my name with my husband's and have had 45 years of carrying two unpronounceable and unspellable names.
My mum, born and married in Scotland, got a shock when her first British pension cheque arrived after 25 years in Canada, in her maiden name. Seems that Scotland follows the same rules as Quebec.
I get one of my pension cheques in my maiden name and one in my hyphenated name.
And once upon a time when I was a bank teller I had a customer who received cheques in :
Her Chinese name
Her Canadianized name.
Her married Chinese name
Her Canadianized stage name
and her Chinese stage name.
It really only got confusing when the Chinese ones came in Chinese characters instead of Roman alphabetics.
10-12-2013 12:41 PM
@femmefan1946 wrote:I hyphenated my name with my husband's and have had 45 years of carrying two unpronounceable and unspellable names.
The ones I really used to find bizarre were those Québecois names with several accents of different types in a hyphenated name, each of which portion had two or three syllables. You'd just get a headache looking at them. I always felt sorry for receptionists in doctors' offices, etc. who had to call out those names -- there would be a huge silence after the "Mrs." while the poor office clerk attempted to disentangle the syllables.
Mind you, there are those short names (such as my husband's -- and my -- surname) that are not only fairly short but also unpronouncable and unspellable for most people. Despite having only 6 letters, few people ever get past the first two without a certain prolonged and gutteral choking sound ensuing.
10-12-2013 12:49 PM
Just as a historical footnote for the day --
If you go back enough centuries, most people's surnames were given to them by others anyway because of personal traits, etc. (or were attached to them by default, such as people who all lived in the same hamlet or belonged to the same clan), so it's probably a good thing that people now get to choose for themselves. Changing names legally, aside from marriage, is a lot simpler than it used to be too.