Anyone willing to divulge success listing on .ca vs .com?

I know this is an old subject that keeps re-surfacing but eBay keeps putting spokes in the wheels of their Canadian .com sellers and making the move to .ca seems more and more imminent. Since I have to revise all my listings anyway (as we all do), I am seriously thinking about shutting down my store and re-opening it on .ca.

Does anyone know how such a move will impact the listing searches?

Does anyone have actual experience selling on both sites with any input to share?
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Anyone willing to divulge success listing on .ca vs .com?

We sell on .CA and our listings apear on .COM as well.

If they did not, it would be no brainer. ebay.com Alexa rank 17 (0.5% of all internet users see it daily), ebay.ca ranks 676 (reach 0.015%). Meaning ... eBay.com has 33x more pagevies than eBay.ca

Also recommend using "International visibility" which shows your listings on .CO.UK. Although not as many customers from UK, but virtually zero problems with shipping delays.
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I started on .com over 10 years ago and never listed on .ca until the US $ totally tanked. Before that, items that were not of specific interest to Canadians usually did better on .com according to my research so I stayed on .com

Many Americans have an aversion to going "out of country" both as buyers and sellers. Dedicated collectors will generally search all the sites to find the must haves for their collections.

Much of the success of listing on one site or the other depends a great deal on what you sell. Since I have been doing more listings on .ca in the last 18 months or so I have found that my china sales did not suffer too much and I still had a lot of US buyers. This was not the case with certain sterling items - if it is US made then I really need to list it on .com to maximize the number of bids. Lots of Americans have their preferences set to show only items listed in the US for their searches.

Back when doing completed searches were of use in researching sales histories I did a lot comparisions between .ca and .com and .ca always came up short. Not the same number of multiple bids and usually lower closing ending prices. That situation has improved over the years, but .com is still the top of the heap.

I'm sure that all of the stupid new policies that have just been announced will eventually make their way here, but in the meantime I would think listing on .ca is smart - unless you have things that are very desirable to Americans but would have limited interest to Canadians.

As far as the impact on store items, they don't show up in core search now unless there are less than X number of items returned in search...I can't remember what the exact number is....the new search rules will further restrict every seller's items showing up so it probably won't be any worse on .ca than on .com.

What percentage of your sales is to Can - US - and international....this should also factor into your decision.
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Anyone willing to divulge success listing on .ca vs .com?

Thanks so much for the input. I really want to get a good feel for everything before making a decision because it will be a big deal to go back and switch everything if it doesn't work out.

dipmicro: Is international visibility an option to choose in turbo lister or something of the sort? I have never heard of it. I have actually sold on the UK site a few times and did well. I wish I had more time to devote to it. Not only are there no shipping delays, the Brits are a delight to deal with. They are not fussy about price either. It's my understanding that a lot of our items are sold at a bargain to them.

bits-n-pieces: I think while it wasn't your intent to steer me to stick with .com, you've pretty much answered my fears about going to .ca in terms of visibility. Almost all my items are sourced in the US and about 95% of my clientele is US based. The average price of my store item is about $7 and my auction items tend to average at about $13 nowdays so I need to sell volume. I can comply with most of the US policies but am worried about the shipping caps which are $4 if I list in the book category. Books over 250 grams cannot be shipped for $4 unless I take a loss. I don't list my books in books, so I beleive I'm not affected at this point but I have a real good nose for sniffing out the future and can see more and more restrictions coming our way.

Perhaps it might be worthwhile for me to stick with .com for the moment and dabble in .ca now that the fixed price listings are more affordable. The problem I've found with selling on two sites is that you cannot combine using the invoicing tools and the buyers get confused if there are different currencies so I may have to create another nick.

Well back to editing 450+ listings on .com
Then back to working on the 3000 other listings I have inventory for. Lol...makes me feel like a hamster in a wheel sometimes!

Thanks!
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craftystatic, do your research about international visibility. I am not sure if it's in Turbo Lister, I don't use it, but it's available in SYI, Auctiva and you can also purchase this option when doing a bulk edit directly on eBay.

I have had a store on CO.UK just because of the problems with combining the invoices and it was doing fine. Not as good as .COM, but close. Beside UK, we have sold to Germany, France, Spain, Austria and others - items that were sold on CO.UK. I believe lot of non-UK EU buyers shop on EBAY.CO.UK because of perception of no import duties since UK is part of EU.

EU is apparently going to lift duty-free personal import limit to 150 EUR next year (what is 22EUR now). That will open whole new world of trading opportuities, because here in North America many items we have access to are a bargain for EU customers.

I also find European customers less likely to get irritated than US or Canadian customers.
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craftystatic, do your research about international visibility

Sorry, I meant try it out yourself.
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I list all my stuff on .ca, I just include shipping to the USA and worldwide and I have great visibility in all countries without paying for the extra UK visibility. .ca has way more listing specials than .com.
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I have sold on both and most definitely prefer eBay.com

I even had a store on .ca several years ago and closed it after eight months. 😞

My store on .com is doing well and will remain open. :-) .
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power_batteries
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I think that I got slightly better exposure on .com but I still prefer to list on .ca because of the additional listing promotions and that the shipping on .ca shows Canada Post/International/Purolator instead of USPS - which caused my US customers a lot of confusion about shipping costs and times (regardless of what additional info I put in the listings). For a while, I was listing on both, but I found that when other people help with running things, it got really confusing/frustrating for them to have to switch between .com and .ca sites and to keep currencies separate too. Now I list on .ca only and only in $US.


C.G.
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We sell on .CA and our listings apear on .COM as well.

I list all my stuff on .ca, I just include shipping to the USA and worldwide and I have great visibility in all countries without paying for the extra UK visibility. .ca has way more listing specials than .com.


Exaclty same for me , my buyers are 40 % americans 50 % rest of the world and 10% Canadian ..


Pierre :

Anyone care to explain why I should list on ebay.com instead of eBay.ca ? I dotn see a reason for or will that raise my sells ?
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agr8_renaud, Pierre explained it in other thread. No advantage:

http://forums.ebay.ca/thread.jspa?threadID=500034191&tstart=0&mod=1219445633765
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Anyone willing to divulge success listing on .ca vs .com?

Wait a minute...maybe it's this late night hour but the thread I read with Pierre referred to registering on .ca vs .com. It says nothing of listing on .ca vs listing on .com.

Also Pierre has responded to this thread with a positive lean towards listing on the .com site.

As for me, I would have to say at least 90% of my buyers are based in the US. There are tons of other sellers selling the same things I am although I do sell many unique items.

I see the jury is out on this one as it really depends on what you sell and who you sell to. I can't see myself counting on all those US buyers to make sure they are allowing for searches for items outside the US so will be keeping my .com store open and continuing my .com listings. I may however, try a few of my easier to find in the US but harder to find in Canada items on .ca on another nick just to see how they do.
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I only list on .ca, and ship everywhere.

Because of that all of my listings show up on every ebay site, in every language.

.ca has way more listing specials than .com, therefore I have my store on .ca

Less listing problems and things are more straight forward for my customers

Loré
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"Anyone care to explain why I should list on ebay.com instead of eBay.ca ? I dotn see a reason for or will that raise my sells ? "

As stated many times in the last six years, like most experienced high volume Canadian sellers, I list primarily on .com, because my products are generally of interest to a worldwide audience.

If I have some products of specific interest to Canadian collectors, I then list them on eBay.ca in Canadian dollars for the convenience of the buyer.

When eBay.ca announces a listing promotion not available on .com, I obviously will take advantage of the promotion.

My store is on eBay.com and will remain there.

The changes announced last week will not affect where I list my items.

If a seller is happy with the sales generated when listing on .ca, by all means that seller should not change the listing site. Sellers should continue to do what works for them.

PS - The servers for eBay.ca are located in the same room in San Jose California as the servers for eBay.com .
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dagr8_renaud
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Pierre


As stated many times in the last six years, like most experienced high volume Canadian sellers, I list primarily on .com, because my products are generally of interest to a worldwide audience.

thanks for your response but I am still in the dark... The part I dont understand is what is the diffrence ?
do you get more exposure on eBay.com because you are listing there ?
I do understand why your store is on .com , but listing in a general manner I still dsont understand the advantages ./
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The sun rises in the East every morning.

I cannot explain why, I just know it does and will always do and when I get up every morning I look East to find it! 😉

Whenever ebay makes an "improvement" to their system, sellers will find the improvement on eBay.com first, followed on other international sites such as eBay.ca several weeks or months later.

Why settle for third class when second class is available at the same price? .
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momoftwingles2
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I've only ever listed on .com for the main reason that Blackthorne and its previous versions always offered more options for .com vs .ca. This made listing must easier for me. And, as Pierre mentioned...improvements and changes always hit .com first.

I would say that 85% of my business comes from the States, 10% international and 5% from Canada.

I would suggest listing on one site or the other if your buyers usually buy several items from you at one time. If they buy some items from .ca listings and then some from .com listings you are not able to combine their purchases into one invoice UNLESS you invoice directly through PayPal by hand.

Have a great day!
Susan
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Hi Susan.

Actually, eBay has made some changes to the invoicing system and a seller can now combine sales from .ca and .com on the same invoice as long as the currency for all listings is US$.

At this time, a seller cannot combine sales in different currencies, regardless of site. .
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momoftwingles2
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Hi Pierre,

THANKS for updating me on this! That is great. I've not listed when .ca has had sales because I didn't think I could combine them. This is GREAT news!

Have a wonderful evening!
Susan
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Hi dagr8_renaud

Let me give you one specific example. It may help you understand why we do what we do!

eBay.ca and eBay.com offer listing promotions from time to time (5c, 10c or 20c insertion fees). Most sellers with an eBay store and large inventory will "move" store items to the core site to take advantage fo the promotion.

If we move 100 items from eBay.com to the core (auction or fixed price) and 80 are unsold a week later, using Selling Manager on eBay.com it only takes a few minutes (at most) to relist all items to the store.

If we move 100 items from eBay.ca to the core (auction or fixed price) and 80 are unsold a week later, one must relist them to the store, one listing at the time. Bulk relisting from core to the store is not available on .ca

While this example may not have any significant effect on sales, the time savings are very substantial.

Now, imagine moving 300 or 500 items from the store for a promotion...... .
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