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for_baby_and_you
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English is my second language... so maybe this is why I don't understand some of those changes 😞

I see a lot of sellers getting upset over those changes but eBay is ignoring us 😞 but maybe you could take a few moments and try to explain some things to us?


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Why accurate item description is bad? I always thought that it was good if I describe my item accurately 😞 so what is the difference between accurate and very accurate?
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Why eBay think that is bad if my customer is satisfied with communicating with me? Again I always thought that if my customer is satisfied I did a good job.

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I do my shipping every day... but my ratings are below quickly 😞 should I start shipping 3 or more times a day? Seriously what should I do to be considered very quick ?

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And this one I'm not getting at all... if I offer free shipping, why my customers are asked if my shipping charges are reasonable? and if they find free shipping reasonable, why my ratings go down?

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I did check in English dictionary, and according to it neural is not the same as negative If you don't believe me you can check it by yourselves... or maybe I was looking in wrong dictionary? please help me understand why neutral is same as negative?



I hope you VIP in eBay will not ignore me...

Kasha




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Many long-term exceptional sellers have left or temporarily stopped listing.

I did a lot of buying on eBay before becoming a seller. I have recently noticed that two of my Favourite Sellers are no longer selling on eBay. Both had excellent reputations and good feedback and were not about to get the boot from eBay. I think they git while the gitting was good. One is no longer a registered user, but I know they have a website. I will be looking for them there. The other posted a message on their listings that they would be giving up their eBay business, after several years, when the listings ran out.
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tea_past_times
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My how the tunes have changed in here lately!!!

I accept your apologies.
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tea_past_times
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Too bad nobody cared between February 18th-25th of this year. - When it mattered!!
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tea_past_times
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Now you can just suck it up.
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You know that Ebay is doing this on purpose eliminating small sellers and attracting large size companies to sell on Ebay for example BUY DOT COM which lists over 500 000 + auctions (represents 4% of total auctions on Ebay). This is the new directions ebay's taking finding new ways to profit. BUY DOT COM has special rates with Ebay. Very soon Walwart and friends will be taking over on Ebay. This DSR and new feedback policies is just smoke in our eyes.
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jeffglobal
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Hi Miriam -- I have just sent you an email. Looking forward to your reply.

Thanks,
Jeff
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lina-mallows
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tea_past_times-"Too bad nobody cared between February 18th-25th of this year. - When it mattered!! "

For what it's worth, I consider you to be neither naïve, nor stupid.

So- PLEASE, stop trying to convince people here that anything done between February 18th, and the 25th, of this year would have mattered.

Decisions made at the corporate level require far more thought anyone here gives them credit for. And these decision do not suddenly appear out of the blue.

Of the tens of thousands of Canadian eBay sellers, based on the miniscule sampling of those who speak out here- eBay could care less what any of us think! Boycotts, protests, letter writing, whatever. eBay may notice but they certainly don't care. History, and good corporate governance dictate we DO NOT MATTER. It's the corporation's actions vis a vis maximizing the shareholder's profit that matter. eBay is accountable to its shareholders- NOT US SELLERS !!!
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I accept your apologies.


In your dreams.
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miriam@ebay.com
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Hi all,

I'm just leaving the Vancouver office heading back to Toronto, but I've reviewed your concerns here and understand the level of frustration.

for_baby_and_you, I definitely have read the boards and know the overall issues. What I want to know is which policies are affecting each of you - individually - the most. I'm looking for specific examples of problems you've encountered, and specific ideas on how eBay can support you in fixing them.

Rolling back all the changes tomorrow is an unrealistic expectation. But making suggestions around what you think a realistic DSR level is for a discount for Canadian sellers is most welcome. Ideas about how to handle negative feedback from say, an unwelcome buyer who bids on your item, is welcome.

I can't promise changes - I don't have that level of authority and I know you guys recognize that. But I want to be able to come to the table with realistic ideas and suggestions in hand, not pages of rants. We have lots of those already.

I appreciate the ideas already put forward - let's keep this conversation as constructive as possible.

I'll be back in Toronto tomorrow and will check in then. I'm looking forward to your ideas.

Thanks,

Miriam
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tea_past_times
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eBay may notice but they certainly don't care. ....

They did care, it's why they suspended myself and thousands of others from these chat boards. Their number of listings dropped from 14 million to 10 3/4 million that week. The stock dropped too.(a few bucks)

The media picked up the story in countless publications both online and otherwise.

They got so spooked by the sellers outrage that they added 500,000 questionable shopping.com listings to the site, to keep the number of listings up. I posted quite a few examples of that in these forums.

They also removed any reference made to competing sites, very quickly.

They also outright lied in press releases about whether or not the were censoring the protest. They censored it viciously.

They noticed alright. It just wasn't long enough and had too few participants.

Their anti-boycott campaign and subsequent denial, proves it was effective. If it had no effect, we would have been outright ignored like usual, like now.

JMHO

-PHIL
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tea_past_times
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I could fill this board with example after example of how far they went to silence the criticism.
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jakeeangel
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Ok Miriam. I have a suggestion regarding non-paying bidders, negs they leave & the UPIs .

- check is in the mail
- item condition or usage mentioned in the UPI

Do NOT and I repeat do NOT allow a non-paying bidder's negative to stand. I want/need/expect an educated, higher-up customer service rep in eBay to review a complaint by any seller that receives a neg from a non-paying bidder. Why? This affects a sellers ability to sell so it's just a little important. <--note the sarcasm!

I've read the eBay Ink and basically you guys blow that smoke again about a non payer that responds to a UPI will be removed. blah blah blah

Know what? It's CRAP! There are reports out there that you holes believe the old check is in the mail story and thus will not remove a neg from a non-payer. That is an abomination!! You guys are believing what these non-payers say over sellers. That is NOT right. If a seller waits weeks for the mailed payment to arrive, it doesn't, they file UPI, bidder responds saying it was mailed, seller waits longer, still no pay & closes UPI. Non-payer negs and you schmos believe the non-payer.

Sorry but that's WRONG a million ways to Sunday. What do you do if a seller actually does get payment and files wrongfully? Well first of all the non-payer MUST provide proof of the cancelled check or money order signed by the seller & showing the account number it was deposited to to eBay to be believed. The help files say you need that but you don't. It's lipservice. And if they can prove such then suspend the seller for a week. That'll teach them to not file false reports.

But then again, got any stats on how many actually do that? I don't believe its very many at all. I do believe that there are TONS of buyers out there lying in UPI disputes about the check being in the mail and making up crap about the item or seller to let their neg stay on record.

The other thing I read is that if the non-payer makes any sort of reference to the item's condition then you bleeps! take that as a sign that the item was paid for, shipped and received and thus allow a neg to stay. Buyers got wind of the loophole they could make any type of response in a UPI to let their neg stay, like aldhfnldsfndsf. Don't you think they're going to get wise to making false claims about an item they never received in the first place in order to neg a seller?



Come See What Else We've Got Up For Auction!

When you find doing what's right hard to do - you've got a problem.
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jakeeangel
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I have another issue re UPIs.

Your wording on the subject referring to Mutual Cancellation. The wording 'Unpaid Item' needs to be removed from a mutual cancellation offer. It scares buyers & they think there's going to be a blackmark on their record if they accept a sellers offer.

Examples:

I had someone buy two single sets of a 10 item lot instead of one 20 item lot. They're bird toys. I offer 10 & 20 beause people have different needs. It's cheaper for the 20 than it is for two 10s. I explained this to they buyer and offered to mutually cancel so I could get my FVF back and they could get the 20 cheaper.

I didn't have to. I thought it was good customer service to do so & in the interest of that and wanting a repeat customer I made the offer. I fully explained the wording and that it would have no effect. She declined because she was afraid of what eBay would keep on her record in the background. I didn't refund the difference in cost but I did throw in some extra product to more than make up for the difference she paid.

Now, you guys spew you want a good buyer experience. Buyer this & buyer that blah blah blah....how's it good to confuse them and make them afraid of something that will have no negative effect on them?

Bring that to the table!



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When you find doing what's right hard to do - you've got a problem.
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jakeeangel
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Another UPI issue:

Seller issues a refund to the buyer.

You guys say we should be using the UPI mutual cancellation option. OK but what if the buyer, to be a prick, refuses? Too bad for us? We've lost on the sale, possibly the product and the FVF too? That's wrong.

Why can't you guys make an option for getting FVF's back that the seller has refunded the buyer? And the seller has to provide transactional proof of the refund through PayPal that can easily be verified.

I had a case where I sold a set of kids PC games to a buyer. This guy was a PITA from the word go. Too many details to get into but if you want them I'll give you them at Live. He claimed it did not work with XP and demanded a refund. In the sole interests of avoiding a neg I did so upon receipt of the returned goods. He did & I did.

I can't guarantee what will or won't work with your system because everyone has different specs. That's why you're supposed to read the system requirements. Open games are useless to the next person & to me. I can't sell them.

I refunded this guy & I wanted my FVF back from eBay. My only option to do so was the UPI mutual. I opted not to use that because I had really good indicators that this guy would refuse and I felt he deserved a strike for his behaviour so I filed regular UPI. He opened, installed & copied the disc then fraudulently demanded a refund.

We need a buyer was refunded in full option to get our FVF's back.



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lina-mallows
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tea_past_times - so- eBay notices, and the action they take is against you.
This doesn't change the policies, or lack of customer service. Or, anything else for that matter.

So tea_past_times - PLEASE continue to point out all the things you want- even if the end result is not that of a positive eBay reaction in favour of sellers.
But, I do enjoy reading your posts.
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I am a newer member to the power seller group (2 months I think) I dont understand why I was invited into this group as it seems like Ebay is working pretty hard to kick me out. My Dashboard was a shocker in the past 30 days when 3 out of 4 weeks shipping was free I have below acceptable levels in the red/ communication is also low yet I ship same day as payment and follow up to each buyer individually to let them know the item shipped how it shipped and when to expect it also in the red. Last month I did not qualify for any discounts becuase my shipping time was low but I ship same day however I am in Canada & 98% of my shipments are going to the USA. I got a nice little note saying I need to improve my selling practices. WHAT???? I do not have any way that I can think of to improve on these problems. I dont believe that buyers are generous with giving 5 stars in fact I think many just cant regardless of how well the transactions have gone. BUT .... this completely affects my ability to retain my power seller status.
If you go to fill the DSR stars a 4 star looks like a very positive grade yet it is absolutely destroying my status "I am in a lower search category" I dont see why I would list at the same cost as others whose auctions are found much easier than mine.
Another issue I have 1 neg from a buyer who didnt communicate a problem a few months back & 2 neutrals based on Canada Post being slow my FB score is 98.3 but ... I have a pending chargeback from a lady who didnt care that I stated 3 weeks for delivery via Canada Post + emailed her the same. She claims it shouldnt take more than 5 days + 1 UID either or both of these buyers can completely put me out of business with a NEG when I have done absolutely nothing wrong.
I worked so hard yet I am going to look like an unreputable seller WHY???
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Because the new system is not working.
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Miriam,

As per your post.

1)You have to allow sellers to see buyers feedback proformance meaning if they have had non-proforming transactions with other sellers OR if they have scamed other sellers. Presently the feedback does not show us this information (Its a one sided feedback). You have to protect your sellers AND NOT WAIT THAT THE BUYER HAS SCAMED 3 SELLERS AND MORE(3 STRIKES) BEFORE BEING KICKED OUT OF EBAY.

2) Remove the NEUTRAL FEEDBACK or not allow it to be like a NEGATIVE FEEDBACK.

I hope you bring these 2 suggestions and that management will react quickly

Frederic
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Ideally, eBay would implement a central registry where sellers can report INRs claimed by the buyers.

With the amount of software eBay has as their disposal, patterns should quickly emerge.

Since eBay knows how to track multiple user IDs (from the same person), I am surprised that they they don't yet have such a mechanism as that would benefit not only the sellers but actually eBay themselves.

Xena
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whoscloset
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Miriam,

I'm not as disturbed by the feedback issues as others. Compared to Best Match it is a minor inconvenience.

Best Match is set up in such a way to completely favor scammers which in no way improves the buyer experience. A fraudulent seller simply has to develop a user id with questionable feedback via small purchases, then they can begin to sell and find themselves advantaged in Best Match.

Sellers with YEARS of proven reliability can easily find themselves at the bottom of search because of a low shipping DSR in the past 30 days. eBay has set it up to completely disregard years of reliable selling.

When Best Match was first implemented I was thrilled with it. It was based solely upon the listings that had attracted customers and sold with positive results in the past. It actually favored reliable sellers who had proven themselves through sales over the years. Then eBay introduced DSRs into the equation and it all went to h*ll in a hand-basket.

Prime example:

Item 310051440288
I have been selling salt lamps for years. This seller has been getting away with fee avoidance for just as long. I can GUARANTEE you that regardless of how many you buy or how they are shipped you CAN NOT get a 5 pound, finished salt lamp from Pakistan (where they are ALL mined) to North America for 99 cents each. Have a look at his shipping charge...$131.02 via USPS ground within the United States. It is obvious that this person is making his profit ENTIRELY off shipping charges and avoiding ebay fees.

He sells the same items under multiple id's with different pricing structures and shipping charges set up for each id. None of his id's has been as successful or rated FB as positive as mine over the years. When regular search and the original Best Match were in place my items rose to the top above all of this as buyers had been much more satisfied over the years with my honest sales practices and quality products. Since the implementation of DSR's into the equation ALL of his listings are ahead of mine. Why? Because I have a 4.5 shipping charge DSR for the past 30 days despite the fact that I subsidize shipping and offer 60% off the actual cost of UPS Ground service to my customers.

eBay is effectively shoving his listings, which have historically not resulted in a great deal of satisfaction down the throats of buyers, while my items...which have been received very well over the years languish on page 10 of search.

Please explain how this is a positive experience for

a) eBay, who are losing FVFs due to fee avoidance,

b) Buyers, to whom ebay is promoting products sold by people with a less than stellar history of product and customer service, or

c) Decent Sellers with years of proven FB and customer satisfaction who are now selling very little.

Monique

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