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your-chic-shopper
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Ok this is were things stand with the CP discount pool . I need to know the following info from Canadian Powersellers

If a CP Shipping pool is put together as it stands. We would only be able to use credit card . No pool member would get terms. The on-line VCD program would be the only option , discounts would be on , shipments across Canada on packages over 1kg on air or ground . Discounts would be on USA parcels over 1kg both on ground and air . Also there would be a 2% discount on your overall bill with CP when using the CP VCD program

Would you be involved in the CP pool with me
Yes/ Or No

If no please explain , I will not be offended
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amberwoodottawa
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It all depends on the amount of the discount we would be getting.

Right now I have credit terms and I am at a Level 2 to the US. The terms are really great as I am only billed once a month and have 2 weeks to pay so I am getting upwards of 6-7 weeks on some shipments with no interest charges.

If I am trading my Level 2 for an identical or similar discount and having to use a credit card, I am not interested.

Malcolm

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your-chic-shopper
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Do you write you manifest manually Malcom??

Todd
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aabros
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YES, I'M IN.
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aabros
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people: join join join!!! don't be shy 😉
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catseye*
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I only ship one or two items a week that are over 1kg, so can't really see the point.

lainey




*JMHO* - to be taken with a grain of salt!
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brownboxit
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It sounds great, but we also only ship lighter items for the most part
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ajandjamie
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I am signed up for the power seller rate, so already using a credit card. I avoid shipping to the USA over 1kg online due to the hidden brokerage fees, but if you can provide a better rate than the power seller group, i would be interested.
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your-chic-shopper
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The rate will 100% be better then the Ebay CP rate

Because ACP rate will have a discount on the Ground shipment to America over 1kg. At the present time Ebay's Discount rate does not include ground shipments over 1kg to America


Soon there will be two choices for shipping on-line with CP the Commerical rate over $200.oo with the brokerage fees added . As well as under 200.00 value with no brokerage fee's

So the answer would be Yes the rate will be better with the pooled ACP rate
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muminlaw
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Todd, I wouldn't be in. I only send 1 or 2 packages over 1kg per month - pretty well everything goes letter rate.

If I start selling bulk lots I'll revisit the question, if it's still available at that time.

Glenda

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amberwoodottawa
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Todd
Yes I do my manifests manually.

It doesnt take much time and it bugs the heck out of Canada Post.

It will be worth the 2% discount I wont get in the New Year to keep doing it the way that I do it.

I will possibly be getting into some big volume sales in the New Year however they will be comics and wont qualify for these discounts. If this takes off, I plan on shipping 200-1,000 per week (I have access to an inventory of over 500,000). I suppose I will have to discuss some form of media mailing with CP or maybe the PS rate will be best.

Malcolm
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aabros
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even if your parcels weight 800g, you can write 1kg on the online manifest and still get a better rate than your $9.90 flat rate. example: you ship an 800g parcel to NY flat rate small packet is $9.90 with expedited ground maybe it will turn out to $9 with the discount. Aren't you guys fed-up of sending stuff to the USA that has NO tracking and NO insurance? (I am)
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deltone
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I don't think it would be of any use for me to go in as 99% of what I send goes to the US and is small so wouldn't apply. :o(
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muminlaw
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Deb, me too. I sell vintage postcards and tokens -- most weigh under 100 gr and fit into an envelope! Pretty hard to disguise that as a 1 Kg parcel. ;\

Glenda
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your-chic-shopper
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Malcolm

If you are writing the manifest manually . The only rate charged for writen manual manifest is what is called small business rate

Now before you get upset- let me explain

Back on July 7 this year 2003 they rolled out Expediented commerical rates to the USA
These rates can only be used on line

Level 1,2,3,4 to USA are given and charged on line, . As we have discussed before they are really meaningless because of the hidden brokerage fees

However my Cp Rep told me as of July 7 all written manifests are only given small business rate only

So what I am saying is this , if a manifest is written out the only rate charged is the small businenss rate . Written manifests no longer as of July 7th have levels.

Now this is were Canada Post double talk comes into play . You may have level 2 or three . However you may not have known , that it only applies and is used when you use it on-line ......and as we have discusses before using it on-line is meaningless

When you write a manifest out , the only discount given is the small business rate . Yes this rate is cheaper then CP counter rate , this often confuses people and they assume from this discount ? That this is their level (whatever) discount

You will see that Canada Post , is doing it too us again . Double talk.....
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amberwoodottawa
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And my rep even put it in writing to me in late June setting out my different levels for each service I ship by and into each country.

This goes back to what I originally said that the ombudsman overseeing the post office should be called in to review their tactics.

The other thing is I dont have a postal cost (its not a cost centre to me) as my customers are paying and I have never received a complaint about what I charge, probably because people expect to pay more when a delicate musical instrument is being shipped.

If I get into shipping comics in 8 1/2 X 11 envelopes I will have to be more competitive.

Malcolm

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your-chic-shopper
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Malcolm what you need you to do

..is this Call your CP rep

Ask CP Rep to send you the Small business rate price sheet for shipping to USA ground . Then compare it too your old bills I am almost certain you will notice they are the same , if not I will eat mud
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rd1000
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I ship small packets, so it would be no benefit to me.

THanks for you efforts

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Todd,

You can definitely count me in!!!

I would like to add for those currently with terms with Canada Post there are some advantages to using a credit card. For those currently with terms you can still get upwards of 6-7 weeks terms on most of your purchases although it may require a bit more work. If you have more than one credit card with different statement dates, then you can use the Credit Card A until the statement date of Credit Card B and then use Credit Card B. You then switch back to Credit card A once you pass the statement date for Credit Card A. This way you maximize the time that the amounts are carried on your credit card.

Another benefits to using credit cards are the various programs available. Depending on the credit card you use you can be earning cash discounts up to 2%, airmiles, Canadian Tire points or a multitude of other freebies.

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Todd, as you know , small packet rate is the same using the electronic tools or counter rate. As I have also mentioned, in my experience, with level 3 to the U.S. the discount is only about 1 or 2% less than the counter rate.

I get big discounts from post because of the sistered account with my regular business however I only use the VCD desktop software in order to make it quicker to fill out the manifest and upload it. As far as savings, Forget it.
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