
08-10-2013 09:55 AM
thefreedictionary.com
gen·o·cide (j ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() n. The systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of an entire national, racial, religious, or ethnic group Soon the UN will pin the genocide badge of honour on kanada's chest. A century + genocidal effort by kanada will finally be recognised/rewarded even though their efforts will have failed. W1 |
08-10-2013 09:16 PM
How soon is soon.
08-11-2013 02:04 PM
@toby_le_pue wrote:
How soon is soon.
Not soon enough,but it is coming.
Kanada is in for a major spanking on many fronts.
It ain't going to be pretty.
Todays generations and a few more in the future will have to pay for your past generations support of colonial goverments and its atrocious genocidal behavior.
Treaties will have to be honoured or kanada will be sunk into deep dark times.
Lets get it on
W1
08-11-2013 09:14 PM
So you're saying 2 wrongs make a right? That you can correct injustice via injustice?
08-12-2013 05:38 PM
08-12-2013 05:53 PM
@brianr1196 wrote:So you're saying 2 wrongs make a right? That you can correct injustice via injustice?
What I am saying is colonial kanada has made its genocidal bed and now will have to lie in it.
The proverbial "crap is soon to hit the fan"
Tisk Tisk
W1
08-13-2013 08:03 AM
http://westcoastnativenews.com/when-canada-used-hunger-to-clear-the-west/
Wow,still proud to be canadian?
W1
08-13-2013 03:05 PM
The proverbial "crap is soon to hit the fan"
I, for one, won't be standing in front of the fan.
We live in a world of injustice. No one ever pays for it.
Some compromises may be possible, but the injustice will never be made right.
What are they going to do to Kanada. A slap on the wrist.
We are our own nation and will not be swayed by outisde influences.
There are very few countries on this earth that have not committted past injustices/atrocities.
There are very few that have paid for them.
This idea that a Canadian government will someday right all the wrongs is one of the things
that stands in the way of true progress by the natives. It is a pipe dream (no pun intended).
08-13-2013 07:24 PM - edited 08-13-2013 07:27 PM
@puckstopshere wrote:The proverbial "crap is soon to hit the fan"
I, for one, won't be standing in front of the fan.
We live in a world of injustice. No one ever pays for it.
Some compromises may be possible, but the injustice will never be made right.
What are they going to do to Kanada. A slap on the wrist.
We are our own nation and will not be swayed by outisde influences.
There are very few countries on this earth that have not committted past injustices/atrocities.
There are very few that have paid for them.
This idea that a Canadian government will someday right all the wrongs is one of the things
that stands in the way of true progress by the natives. It is a pipe dream (no pun intended).
Typical colonial mindset.
After all it is you and your ancestors that supported these governments.
You hit the "proverebial" nail on the head.
"We are our own nation and will not be swayed by outisde influences."
Could not have said it better myself!
The First Nations will not be swayed.
21st century will be a century like no other
"This idea that a Canadian government will someday right all the wrongs is one of the things
that stands in the way of true progress by the natives. It is a pipe dream (no pun intended)."
It will be the natives who will stand in the way of kanadas true future progress.
Naive
W1
08-13-2013 07:36 PM
Naive
Native without the "t" - how fitting.
I am not responsible for the actions of my so-called ancestors.
Had I been here and had the ability, I would have handled things differently.
Are all Germans born after the war and in the future responsible for the
actions of the Nazis I think not.
21st century will be a century like no other
Yes. I agree. If the natives resort to violence (which is what you seem to be always implying),
their cause will be truly lost. It may end up being the one time that Canadians finally take a
stand. Violence begets violence.
08-13-2013 07:48 PM
"We are our own nation and will not be swayed by outisde influences."
Too bad that you are a nation so divided.
Many bands have already settled with the government - ignoring the treaties.
Will they stand and fight with the bands that have not settled?
I think not.
A band with money in their pockets will probably be as complacent as the
average comfortable Canadian.
If you have read any of my posts in the past, I am in favor of a settlement between
the natives and the Canadian people. The longer this issue festers, the more that
the Canadian people will tire of the native cause. It is in the interests of all those
involved to have a settlement and to have it now. Then all of us - native and Canadian - will
know where we stand. That will be a good day.
Unity amongst First Nations is the key. Until all natives can act as one and put aside their differences,
they give the government an advantage. Natives need to decide what they want and go to the
government with one representative or representatives - with one set of demands (an ugly word).
As I see it, the natives are not happy with their own leadership (Atleo and company). Even though he
was elected, he seems to be in a minority position with limited support. Either the natives give the AFN
100% support - or they form a new governing body that has the support of all. If this sounds like an
impossibility, I believe it is. But, for a settlement that fits the needs and desires of ALL natives to be
achieved, unity must happen. Until it does, you are fighting your own civil war.
08-13-2013 11:26 PM
We are our own nation and will not be swayed by outisde influences.
Sorry but we are on a constant basis.
Are all Germans born after the war and in the future responsible for the actions of the Nazis I think not.
True they’re not, but neither are they committing the atrocities they once did. Canada still is. Neither are they on the land and taking from the land they do not own. Canada still is doing both.
If the natives resort to violence
“Those that make peaceful resolution impossible, make violent revolution inevidable”
John Fitzgerald Kennedy.
And the First Nations people have been asking for a peaceful resolution for a longgggg longggggg time, but have only found the arrogance of politicians, governments and people.
It may end up being the one time that Canadians finally take a stand.
True Canadians are the First Nations people and that’s exactly what they may do, take a stand, finally.
The longer this issue festers, the more that the Canadian people will tire of the native cause.
Then take your anger out on the politicians and the government, not the people who have been unjustly treated and in one form or another persecuted and lied to from the day the first colonialist came to this land.
08-13-2013 11:42 PM
You make some very good points, puck. Yes, there are some issues to be resolved, but let's face it, the fact that no resolution has come is due to obstinacy on BOTH sides. Politicians and Native groups take turns playing the arrogance and martyr cards. My personal viewpoint is that the government should settle everything with all native groups, period. Self governing should begin with the government making full payments to all Native groups, including land settlement, and then that's it. No more subsidies, tax breaks, or having the government stick their nose into Native business. Let natives govern themselves, handle their own monetary business, etc. Self governing means just that, and be treated the same as every other Canadian. That's what true equality is, not equality when it is convenient. Cannot have it both ways. And for the record, Native groups should be asking the UK, France and the Catholic church for reparations. They started the whole immigration process, not those who inhabit this country today.