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So looking more and more that Canada Post will be going on strike, I did call E Bay and asked what would happen if parcels that were sent to Canada that wouldn't arrive until after the strike started, and the rep told me that they would refund the buyer back if the parcel didn't come by the scheduled time. Will be interesting to see how this will all play out with parcels coming from China, or anywhere overseas for that matter. So many questions will arise from this I'm sure. Will anyone in Canada change there selling tactics before July?, or just do the wait and see approach and deal with it on July 5th? 

 

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Parcel delivery... 7 days each week.....  including weekends...

 

Did I read that correctly?

 

Is that the union or CPC? ....... CPC Is cutting back.....and more with community mailboxes


That is the union offer. The union is offering 7 day a week service. The union is offering management a way to go after the couriers and steal all the business away from them and increase the profits for management.

 

Everything else in there is nickel and dime stuff.

 

Union is offering a way for lower paid part timers to get in. All they really want is protection for long suffering employees to get a little guarantee.

 

In my town, that would gut the couriers as they only work M-F.

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Rose, darling, you were supposed to say "SNIPE".

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@mr.elmwood wrote:

Rose, darling, you were supposed to say "SNIPE".


Sorry, am I being dull-witted today?  SNIPE?  Expliquez, SVP. Woman Very Happy

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Like bid at the last second.
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Please, all they want is more staff in the union which is going to cost more dollars.

 

One post says their proposal will cost over a billion dollars.

 

Tell me which residence needs 7 day parcel delivery or even 5 day mail delivery. There is far less letter mail than ever before. Why do we still require  delivery  5 days a week?

 

The union's total offer is nothing but a money grab

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I really don't need mail delivery even 5 days a week.  I would be happy with 3 or even 2.  Businesses of course should have 5 days but I don't get much regular mail, mostly advertising and flyers.  

 

If they want to save money just cut delivery back to a couple of days a week to residential areas.  

 

It has been almost 2 weeks since I ended all my listings.  And I am not very happy about it.  I have sympathy for the postal workers but as time goes on, my feelings I am sure will change.   I sure hope that it is resolved quickly.  We don't even have a postal dispute going on and already it has affected me for the last 2 weeks. 

 

I don't depend on the money to supplement my pension but I am sure there are thousands who depend on the money that ebay brings in to put food on the table.  

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I'd love parcel delivery seven days a week, both as a buyer and seller. Lettermail isn't as important to me. That is, unless the lettermail is merchandise that's been sent like that.
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@mr.elmwood wrote:

Rose, darling, you were supposed to say "SNIPE".


 

 

There hasn't been a proper snipe on any of the boards since Lithium took over. A couple of posters tried and got "moderated"!

 

 



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Any talk about 7 day delivery is for packages only not letter or admail. I've got a pretty good idea why the Union would offer this and why Canada Post wouldn't be interested in THEIR offer.

 

If CP were to do full time 7 day delivery (as they do for a few weeks at Christmas) it would all be done by non-union contractors. "Sorry CUPW, great idea but we don't need you for that".

 

CUPW needs to come back to earth, Defined Benefit pensions seemed like a fantastic idea in the 60's & 70's but by the mid-80's people (employers) realized they were unworkable. The public sector is about the only place Defined Benefit pensions still exist, private sector companies even those with "gold plated" plans and/or unions have almost entirely moved to Defined Contribution plans. And then there are the millions of independent self-employed, something that was a tiny minority 50 years ago, they (as in people like eBay sellers) have no pension plans other than what they can create entirely on their own.

 

 



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Business as usual for Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday.

 

72 hour notice required for Canada Post to lockout.

72 hour notice required for CUPW to strike.

 

And the deadline for Wednesday has now passed. (www.cupw.ca)

 

Next day of choice will be Thursday made on Sunday July 3rd..

 

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One post says their proposal will cost over a billion dollars.

Cui bono? 

The proposal might cost that much or less or more. Did the anonymous post also calculate any benefits?

Taking business from couriers would be one benefit -- couriers are already subcontracting to CPO to deliver outside of urban and suburban locations.

For which they charge more and pay their carriers less. Cui, as I said, bono?

 

Tell me which residence needs 7 day parcel delivery

 Very few-- but it allows CPO to decide which days they will deliver.

 

For example, most working people are not home M-F /8-6 when CPO (and for that matter, couriers) are trying to deliver parcels.

How many cries of despair have we seen from upset buyers who are convinced they will not be home when the carrier arrives and will lose their purchase forever?

With seven day delivery, residences and businesses could have Saturday or Sunday parcel delivery. Problem solved.

 

And businesses are more and more moving to seven day weeks. The complaint of workers who are tethered to their smartphones even when on vacation is well-known.

 

I was at the bank today (Saturday) to do some banking. Then I picked up a book I had on order at the bookstore, bought a toothbrush at the pharmacy, and shopped for sandals.

All those businesses were open (some had been open yesterday, Canada Day, too). Most will be open tomorrow (Sunday).

So seven day delivery could be a benefit for businesses.

 

And it might not require more staff.

If home or business delivery moved to seven days a week, then perhaps my side of the street could get mail on M-W- F and yours on T-T-Sat. With parcel delivery on Sundays for all, since parcels are delivered less often than admail and bills.

 

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If CP were to do full time 7 day delivery (as they do for a few weeks at Christmas) it would all be done by non-union contractors.

 

I think what the union is saying is that they would be willing to do it.

It has been my observation that contracted labour is more expensive than staff labour. Mostly based on working in temp agencies.

But it is in a different part of the books, so the disparity is hard to spot.

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When you are the 100th post, you are supposed to say SNIPE. Message board protocol.

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Well, I learned something new today.
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Back in the olden days, some threads would go into 200-300 replies. It was customary to fight for each 100th and holler SNIPE.

 

Kids today, humph.

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Well, now that I have been schooled, I won't allow the oversight in protocol to happen again. 

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@mr.elmwood wrote:

When you are the 100th post, you are supposed to say SNIPE. Message board protocol.


Thank you for coming back and clarifying.  I was left in a real conundrum trying to figure out what last minute bidding had to do with my post.  Huh?  

 

Come to think of it, we've had lots of discussions that went over the 100 mark for years and I don't recall anyone calling out "SNIPE", so 'recped' is probably right that the last one was ages ago.  Sorry darling. Woman Very Happy

 

P.S. My husband just told me that CBC is reporting that CPC has rejected the union's offer (not a surprise).  Stay tuned all. 

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I thought the command to 'snipe' was referring to your comment on couriers being put out of work by seven-day postal delivery.
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@cumos55 wrote:

Parcel delivery... 7 days each week.....  including weekends...

 


Canada Post wants to eliminate overtime pay for weekends and holidays to give themselves more delivery flexibility.

 

CUPW has come back with a counter proposal for 7 day workers.

 

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@ypdc_dennis wrote:

@cumos55 wrote:

Parcel delivery... 7 days each week.....  including weekends...

 


Canada Post wants to eliminate overtime pay for weekends and holidays to give themselves more delivery flexibility.

 

CUPW has come back with a counter proposal for 7 day workers.

 

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They want to change their business model, that they propagated, that they agreed to, oh, um, wait a minute, "Do over". They want to do this by subtracting. The union has proposed to achieve this by adding.

 

Management has crewed up the business model, no-one else. That Mr Five Year Guaranteed $500K A Year Chopra is blaming the employees for what he got wrong is, well, finger pointing.

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