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puckstopshere · ‎06-11-2013

Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau is facing criticism from Conservatives for saying he would "absolutely" welcome embattled Senator Mac Harb back to caucus if he can resolve his expense issues.

Trudeau appeared on Global’s "The West Block With Tom Clark" on Sunday and told Clark the expense issues dogging Harb and former Tory Senator Patrick Brazeau have been characterized by the Senate as misunderstandings or honest mistakes.

"For me, there’s a real difference between what Mac Harb is going through and what Senators Duffy and Wallin seem to have on their plate because they were put in place, of course, by the prime minister in order to be powerful, effective fundraisers," he said. "And that’s why Mike Duffy was given special treatment."

Trudeau did say there could be "stiffer consequences" if the RCMP, which is currently probing the expense scandal, finds bigger problems.

Harb left the Liberals last month after an independent audit found he'd improperly claimed $51,500 in Senate housing allowances. Harb, who now sits as an independent, disputes he must repay the money and intends to fight the matter in court.

According to a report from The Globe and Mail released Saturday, Harb is now being asked to return nearly $200,000 in improper housing and travel expenses.

A source familiar with a review of Harb’s expenses says Harb owes almost $135,000 in improper housing claims and $35,000 to $40,000 in mileage claims, with interest.

The Ontario senator, who represented an Ottawa riding as a Liberal MP for years and owns several properties in the capital, claimed a bungalow in Westmeath, near Pembroke, Ont., as his primary residence. He recently put the bungalow up for sale.

The audit found Harb spent only 21 per cent of his time at the Westmeath residence.

In a written statement at the time, Harb said it's irrelevant whether he spent more time in Ottawa than his designated primary residence.

"This criterium is not found in Senate regulations or guidelines and has never been communicated to senators or implemented by financial officers," he said.

Trudeau said last month he was "comfortable and happy" with Harb’s decision to step away from caucus.

But Conservatives pounced on Trudeau’s latest remarks as further proof he is unfit to be prime minister.

In a statement released Sunday afternoon, Government House Leader Peter Van Loan accused Trudeau of standing by someone trying to "stick taxpayers" with a hefty bill. And, much like in question period over recent weeks, the Tory minister also brought up controversial Liberal Senator Pana Merchant.

From Van Loan’s statement:

Defending disgraced Senator Mac Harb isn't the only lapse in judgment on Justin Trudeau's part in recent weeks. Justin Trudeau continues to allow Liberal Senator Pana Merchant to sit in the Liberal Caucus despite uncertainty over the status of a $1.7 million offshore bank account that media have reported she has not declared publicly, as required by Senate rules. Justin Trudeau's defence of Senator Mac Harb and Pana Merchant is just more proof that the Liberal Leader lacks the judgment to be Prime Minister and is in over his head.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/06/10/justin-trudeau-mac-harb-senate-expense_n_3415485.html

puckstopshere · ‎06-11-2013

So, the nasty Conservative senators who are ripping off the public should be drawn and quartered. The Liberal Senator - not so much. I guess Trudeau is used to accepting that Liberals break the law and it is no big deal.

pierrelebel · ‎06-11-2013

That was a stupid comment by Trudeau.

ilurkthereforiam · ‎06-11-2013

I don't know why Harper bothers to use attack ads on Trudeau.

If Trudeau is left alone he will self destruct.

art-in-the-making · ‎06-11-2013

Trudeau said that Harb would be welcomed back if cleared of wrongdoing, otherwise not

prior-of-verity*shake-hands-with-your-devil · ‎06-11-2013

Well at least they didn't slide the money to him in hopes of keeping it hidden.

puckstopshere · ‎06-11-2013

Well at least they didn't slide the money to him in hopes of keeping it hidden.

They weren't in the same position as Harper. They would not have had the means to keep it hidden.

pierrelebel · ‎06-12-2013

Worth reading: http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/06/11/justin_trudeau_stumbles_on_his_learning_curve_during_senate_spending_scandal_tim_harper.html

prior-of-verity*shake-hands-with-your-devil · ‎06-12-2013

Do we know the details about Mac Harb's expenses? I read several articles this morning and they all seem to be indicating that he did have a home outside Ottawa and he did reside there, although like many Senators he also had a home nearer Ottawa. Where was he at any given time? Duffy however was claiming a residence (a cottage really) on the other side of Canada and there is ample evidence that he was not there and he even claimed expenses when there are photos of him on a cruise vacation!

I'm not defending Harb by any stretch and I am not a 'Liberal'. I just think each 'case' has to be looked at in it's own merit.

As for Trudeau.........well in the world we live in for him to welcome Harb back into the Liberals is of course food for any Trudeau haters. They're allowed their feeding frenzy, as brief as it may be.

Neither am I defending Trudeau. Inside I feel that Trudeau needs political 'polishing', but I also feel he has a good heart and some decent values compared to Harper. Considering we have a political 'system' that basically gives us 3 parties to chose from, then at the moment I will stick with Trudeau. However if someone comes along with the same attitude but more political savvy, then I might possibly change my vote. But one thing is guaranteed.....Harper will never get my vote and I will do everything in my own political area to convince people to do the same.

puckstopshere · ‎06-12-2013

Do we know the details about Mac Harb's expenses?

The lead article says that he spent only 21% of his time in the home that he claimed his expenses for. He appears to owe more than was initially thought.