What is this, and is it legal?

kpamber
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2755337754
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jaymor8
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Yep...sickening, ain't it?? We are mere supplicants in the grand ebay scheme.

Jackie...
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cmagor-ctvi
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This guy really is amazing! Remember the shill bidding uncovered because he left himself feedback? Well yesterday he left himself more feedback for a transaction the other way round - this time utisys was the seller and place_220 the buyer.

How he hasn't been NARU'd is beyond me! Oh well, one step at a time I guess!

Chris.
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treasure-pot
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He's back and has four items listed. It will be interesting to see "who" wins the auctions this time.


Bill


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jaymor8
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We noticed that last night. My husband couldn't believe the feedback swapping and how gosh darned ovbious is that for shilling. Does ebay not pay close attention or what? Both feedbacks have an advertising style to them and are definitely written by the same person.

Jackie...
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treasure-pot
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Both even have the same phone number listed in the add. I don't know what additional info eBay could possibly require to shut this guy down. I know that it has been on report for several days.

He is either the dumbest shiller or eBay does not enforce their rules about bid shilling.


Bill


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jaymor8
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Hey...I have an idea...let's have a 'Dumb-a$$ Ebayer of the Month' contest. I'll start the list right now and I'll get back to you next month with my nominees.

How funny would it be to email the other userID and say things like "I had a transaction with (his userID) and he was such a putz. What do you think of that guy???" How much would you wager that he would reply in utter defense of his alter-ego.

When you set out to makes fools of unsuspecting people, you are inviting contempt from the masses. Grrrrrr!

Smiles....Jackie...
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treasure-pot
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Can I nominate someone?

Have a look at my recent feedback. This guy leaves a slime trail everywhere he goes. Just ask chic-shopper about his dealings with him.

This buyer is the poster child for rude and argumentative. He keeps saying that I charged him $17.95 S/H and I keep supplying him a copy of his PayPal payment that shows he paid $11.95. And, to top it all off, I had discounted the S/H from an original $18.85 for a combined payment. Apparently you cannot please some people.

He also made a huge stink about paying the taxes. It was just one effort to start a fight after another. I just counted and we had a total of 28 emails go back and forth. I tried to keep my cool but, I swear, towards the end, I was prepared to lose it on the guy. If you have room on your BB list this guy is a definite candidate.


Bill


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deltone
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I just noticed that the last 2 batches of negs were deals with two posters on here. You treasure and chic. Is that strange or what? Is he stalking you guys or something??
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deltone
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DUH!!! LOL ignore my post!! LOL You already said that in your post, that you both had dealings with him. I really need to stop scanning so I retain more! SORRY!!!! LOL
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jaymor8
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Ahhh Treasure...that's a shame, huh? I read the FB and what a freak. It never ceases to amaze me how poeple have the unmitigated gall to biatch and whine about certain aspects of an auction AFTER they win it. I mean, give me a break here...if you hate the S/H or the shipping methods, or the methods of payment or the sound of your userID...ad nauseum..then don't flipping BID! I think there is far too much buyer's remorse going on and it's us who have to pay the consequences. Bummer dude 😞

Jackie...
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treasure-pot
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bump

The seller that was the target of the original post has been NARU'd.

eBay.ca Trust & Safety has finally reacted a mere 15 days after reports were made. Now that's action!


NOT!!!


Bill


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jaymor8
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Ok kids - I am so glad that someone spotted this and made this post. Does anyone else find it real ironic that only the shill bidder got NARUd and not the sellers? I mean cheese and crackers, you can't shill bid by yourself.

Hypocrites.

Jackie...
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treasure-pot
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Jackie...

Don't try and figure out Trust & Safety... you'll only do yourself harm. :<)

Give them another couple of weeks to wrap it up.

It's amazing that they move this slowly on something this serious but if I use the wrong BidPay logo in my auctions they will crawl all over me in hours.

Kinda makes ya wonder...

Bill(wanders away muttering...)


Bill


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jaymor8
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Thanks Bill - but do you think that decisions are influenced by money? Or am I being blindly naive even asking?

Jackie...
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treasure-pot
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I hope thats not the case. With this particular seller there was no real history or big payday for eBay.

I just have a nagging suspision that Trust & Safety in Canada is a part time effort put forward by someone from the eBay mailroom. I just don't understand why they move so slowly otherwise. By comparison, Trust & Safety in the USA moves at warp speed and in Canada on impulse only.

It's a shame 'cause we spend our money just like our friends to the south but don't get nearly the same level of service.

I would just love to be proved wrong!


Bill


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jaymor8
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Wish I could be the one to PROVE you wrong, too....but sadly, I can't.

You are so on the money about this, Bill. It never occured to me before you called attention to their reactions to our problems. Darn straight we pay good money too and our concerns should be taken every bit as seriously.

Want them to come out of the woodwork at warp speed? Don't pay your bill next month. How long do you think it will take to remove you from the premises.

Jackie...
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treasure-pot
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There Jackie...

At least one of his alter-ego's has now been NARU'd. Were there more??

Bill


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jaymor8
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Good morning Bill - OMG they seem to have NARUd them all except for one company (which I can't recall the name of at this moment). You know, the way it took a little time to complete, ebay must have been very very thorough on this and they busted them all. I take back what I said about ebay being slow or disinterested. They just like to be sure.

Thanks for keeping me apprised of the news. I wouldn't have gone back to look if I hadn't seen this posting.

Take care, Jackie...
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treasure-pot
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You have far too generous a soul, Jackie. :<)

I look at it this way - we lowly powersellers - without the aid of registration info or other internal tools - were able to determine within hours that this guy was shilling. Complaints were made to PS priortized support and it still tooks eBay more than two weeks to be thorough?!! No, I think you may have been closer to the mark in your first impression.

Yikes - I hope they can be so thorough (slow) the next time I inadvertingly use too large a BidPay logo or keyword spam. Theu always seem to catch those auctions on me within 24 hours of launch.

Cheers!

Bill


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treasure-pot
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Theu = They

Sorry 'bout that - the bandages are supposed to come off today. :<)


Bill


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